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Originally Posted by Robbie
That's an urban myth.
This was a CLOSED business up until the internet started.
So that "almost always" part of your post is completely false. There were only a handful of players, and not many more performers.
As for online porn...of course anybody can TRY to make money in adult.
Just like they can TRY to make money in EVERY business in the world online.
The barrier to adult isn't any lower than any other online business.
And why people would even post things that make their own business look bad is beyond me.
It isn't bad enough that "civilians" already (erroneously) think the worst of people in the adult industry...but then we have our "own people" posting things like this on a public forum too?
Here is my experience since I started online adult in 1997:
The people I have done business with, met, and interacted with...whom were actually IN the adult industry are NOTHING like the cliche.
Most are people with families, many give back to their communities...in other words, they are very, very "normal" people.
The majority of the folks I have met and interacted with over these decades have also been above-average intelligent, ambitious, and hard working.
Yes, there are a few dumbasses. Most of them are fringe people who have never held a camera in their hand or been on a porn set.
But I have never met a successful person who was truly in this industry that I felt couldn't be successful in any other business.
A lot of them never were successful anywhere else because they simply never HAD to be.
Just like Bill Gates never HAD to be successful in anything else but Microsoft.
Porn Nerd, if you really think that the industry is full of people who are just stupid and couldn't make it anywhere else, etc. ... then name names.
Which successful people do you think aren't "good enough" or are in adult as the "last stop" before total life failure?
Let's start with the old names since you insinuated that's it's almost always been so:
Hugh Hefner?
Bob Guccione?
Larry Flynt?
How about more recent folks?
Steve Hirsch?
Any of the owners of "big" studios?
How about online?
Do you think The Hun wouldn't be successful?
Or Maurice at FreeOnes?
You get what I'm saying.
Just because a person puts a few junk cars in front of their trailer with for sale signs on them doesn't mean that they are in the Auto Industry.
To categorize "porn" in a way that insinuates that the people you are really talking about represent porn, is the same as saying that trailer park guy represents the auto industry as equally as the head of GM.
There are millions of people out there that are affiliates of everything you can think of.
Just because they are an affiliate of a site that sells Rolex watches doesn't mean that they are "in" the fine timepiece industry.  |
Larry Flynt
Hugh hefner
Bob Guccione
We are not talking about anyone on THAT level here (and, BTW, none of those mentioned have done anything to stem the tide of piracy and lower revenue we see today; in fact, Hustler is struggling, Penthouse is almost gone and Playboy is a total mess since Manwin took over).
I'm not saying people in the Adult Biz don't have the
skills to work in other fields I'm asking why do they choose NOT to? Also, please show me someone who was incredibly successful BEFORE they got into Adult. You know, someone who decided to switch from being a millionaire in finance or another Industry and decided to bring his skills to Adult and kill it?
People who sell or work in Adult tend to do so because:
1. They see opportunity
2. They're horny kinky fucks
3. They don't want a 'real job'
4. All of the above
There's absolutely nothng wrong with any of this but thinking porn professionals are your average everyday working folk is ridiculous. LOL It's what I LIKE about Adult: a bunch of rogue gunslingers always hustling and watching out for themselves...
But there's a downside to this, too, as we see nowadays. With so many shows (how many a year, all around the world) why is it we do not see a true coalition or union for the Adult Biz? Music and film industries banded together to squash piracy yet porn has
ramped up piracy and now we are all forced to 'adapt or die' (with many dying). If this Industry was filled with brilliant people who could 'make it' doing anything else then why do they sit around, solution-less, watching passively while everything degrades into less revenue and more piracy (or worse, contribute to it)?
You can't have it both ways Robbie: smart people who are just like any other successful person yet the ACTIONS by these same people contribute to their own demise. I call that stupidity, not brilliance (or even competence). In fact, I call it predaters caring about themselves and saying fuck it to the rest of the world.
So maybe we are like every other business. LOL
What I'm really saying is many of the people bitching on this board should instead be happy campers that they aren't working in a 'real job' where they don't get to watch sex all day and maybe have a nice wank in the middle of the afternoon. I realize this is difficult to take for old timers who made bank a decade ago but LOOK FORWARD and realize shit could be a lot worse. But if someone can't deal with what I just wrote then hey, take your awesome skills and go get a job at IBM.
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Originally Posted by 12clicks
That's bold talk for someone who hasn't been here very long.  |
Been here long enough to know what time it is, as they say on the street.