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Old 06-22-2014, 07:19 PM  
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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom View Post
First of all that's just not true, I know as a fact Hotfile lost several Paypal accounts over the years. They might have eventually set up a lasting account and established a relationship with Paypal in the last few years, that I honestly don't know as I quit paying attention to the whole mess after I was no longer involved with sending out DMCA requests. But prior to that they lost several accounts and bounced around different payment processors.
So you know or you don't know. Sorry, I didn't realise you dealt directly with Paypal as I do.

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Second don't fucking lump me in with anyone else, I never said what you were doing wasn't effective. I'm not following your efforts so I couldn't tell you either fucking way. I just took issue with you trying to take credit for something that you didn't have anything to do with.
If you're not following our work then how would you have any idea about what we have been involved in ? Quite simply the facts are this. The MPAA and RIAA lobbied Paypal for years to shut down the Hotfile Paypal account and each time Paypal (quite rightly) pushed back because they didn't come up with the evidence required to establish their case. We worked directly with the Head of Brand Risk Management at Paypal and provided the right amount and quality of evidence to get Paypal to review and then terminate Hotfile. Those are the facts.


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Paypal had nothing to do with Hotfile being shut down, they knew they were fucked if the case went to court so they cut their losses and settled with the MPAA on the eve of the court case.
Actually Hotfile was found in court by summary judgement to be vicariously liable for it's users and also found Anton Titov personally liable - so Hotfile didn't just give up on the eve of a court case as you claim. Hotfile caved when additional evidence came to light prior to the further running of the case by a jury trial.

If you're going to cite facts, make sure you know the facts - which clearly you don't.

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I'm sorry, but the whole "you disagree with me, so you must be a pirate" bullshit just isn't gonna cut it here. Ask around a bit, I was involved with going after file lockers and file locker forums long before you started this venture. At one point back in '06-'07 when pornbb was the biggest file locker forum online I helped take down over 90% of all the links on that site, after Eric from Remove Your Content gave me a script he was using to strip out the content URL's. I finally threw my hands up in the air and gave up a few years ago, but I followed the Hotfile case closely as they were one of the first to pay uploaders to upload content and were a particular thorn in my side...
That's great. It's a shame you ran out of puff.
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