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Old 05-05-2015, 07:54 PM  
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Originally Posted by PR_Glen View Post
you shouldn't have to hurt them ever to train them. even e-collars only give them a little zap that doesn't do any harm. I don't like those myself but they are better than most alternatives. anything more than a light pop on the nose is too much in my eyes, unless its attacking you of course.
I sent my dog to a trainer when he was a year old because he attacked me pretty hardcore, I am 100% sure the trainer abused him. I don't know what methods he used but my dog was TRAUMATIZED, had 7 sores on his body, lost 10lbs all in one week. When I went to pick him up his teeth were chattering, he was shaking and his head was trembling. All that and my dog still wasn't trained.

Maybe the guy who was doing this to the dog is the same type of "trainer" my guy was.

I ended up having to use the e-collar for my dog, he listened like a very good dog should after that.

I'm feeling like he needs a refresher. Ornery, large dog who I can't handle when he is feeling excited. I am an advocate of it.
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