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Originally Posted by k0nr4d
I think these people shouldn't be let in, even more so the economic migrants. They are now freely roaming around europe, with no one checking them at all, with absolutely no documents. They have more rights then i do - I can't drive legally into another country without my ID. These people could be ISIS members, they could be carrying all sorts of african diseases, etc. We really, really do not need this shit - and i'm very happy that Poland is only accepting so few of them.
I've seen videos of a migrant throwing his wife and small child on the ground with police all around them then pretending that police are beating him or did it. It was on BBC, except they didn't show the part of him throwing himself on the ground along with his wife.
I've seen videos of black guys from Ghana (which is not at war, nor especially poor) complaining about the conditions of the refugee camp. They were evidently expecting a free castle each and instead got tents. Seriously, all these guys living there can't fucking fix a slightly leaking tent? They are going to be great additions to the german "work force"...
The media spins it like it's all starving women and children, when in fact in every single video I have seen it's like 90% young men. How many children do you see here?
The fact they all want to go to germany or sweden and do not accept hungary, austria, etc suggests that they are really after the social and not escaping war. I'm sure SOME are, but come on...
Schengen zone should be completely shut down until this blows over.
Look at all these children here too...
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I agree schengen should be scrapped altogether it's a crap contract.
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Originally Posted by Joshua G
no knucklehead. the answer is integration, & putting sweethart memories of a once pure local population to rest. the people who are leaving syria et al are the smart ones. they are facing hostile situation, but are braving it for survival. those are the types of people i want coming to my country. i would take a syrian refugee with big tits over a lot of our local lollygagging youths any day of the week.
sending them back, camps, trains, never worked, never will. most will either go back when syria get it together, or they will become european muslims, just like the USA is full of latinos & its not going to be reversed no matter how much a spoiled billionaire wants it otherwise.
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There is no intregration in germany or sweden not of a decent quality anyway. After being registered and living at other asylum camps some months they want to the cities where "others of their kind" lives. what do you think goes on there ? Unemployment, crime, gangs, hate vs the western lifestyle, some get radicalized. Maybe cause they didn't get a bmw within 6 months of arrival, I don't know.
Which syrian refugee would you take? Can you see the difference between a good or bad one or you don't care?
How about some from eritrea?
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Originally Posted by Tom.K
yes, that's the one 
I see many people here, and on other places, asking why those refugees don't stay in Turkey as they are safe there. Well, would anybody normal wanted to stay in some shitty camp knowing he/she will probably be there for rest of the life with possibility to die soon from some disease or killed by someone? Or try to get normal life somewhere else?
https://www.google.cz/search?q=syria...kDGgodYYE MQw
And of course everyone wants to go to Germany or Sweden. Who, the fuck, would like to stay in Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria or ask asylum in Croatia or Poland? Knowing that they will get same or even worse treatment as in Turkey and no possibility to make some life anytime in the future. Eventually offered ham sandwich with beer... Isn't that in human nature that man will look for better life and opportunity? Their country is dead, their property destroyed, no life there anymore. And people from other countries, from Africa, between choosing to die from starvation or killed by some militia, and trying to get some normal life in some other place, isn't choice obvious? Especially for some young man who have 20 yrs? How much you have to be desperate to take a chance in crappy boat to get from African sun to shitty Swedish weather? Very much, but you will maybe get opportunity to send your mother few hundred bucks in year if you are lucky.
Maybe I don't understand some things and can't say much, but letting those people die on sea or in trucks, can only tell me that this "civilization" obviously deserve to finish like Rome finished once. It's not western way of life, it's not religion, it's just bastardship. |
European immigration politics have resulted in immigrants paying filthy and greedy smugglers in a hope to get to germany or sweden or UK with their generous handouts. The smugglers don't care what happens. Solution: close the borders and help them in refugee camps, throw money at them, it will still be WAY cheaper than having a unintegrated immigrants living in germany with all the costs for that.
I wonder how many people in a refugee camp can be helped for the same cost to feed a family in germany 2 parents 3 kids. It adds up to a lot.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
i'll give you this: the UK is a good example how political correctness is going the wrong way, when a supermarket in CZ announced selling halal food the shitstorm was so huge that they bowed down and removed it again
and once again - i wrote already that i neither welcome people that only ask for asylum for economical reasons (if they are well educated there are other ways to come here) and i would also prefer if the Syria situation was dealt with locally
but i am trying to understand the motivation of those people that try to escape for a better life and make their way despite of the danger - obviously the desperation is huge.
and i swear i will never be that asshole that celebrates dead children like many others do now
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Yes I have seen a few comment about the dead kid and celebrating. Disgusting and sick I must say. Emotionally people that probably are so feed up with the immigration they cant think straight any more and I'm sure there's a handful of commenters that can't think at all and never could.
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
that is simply not true - that's the problem cause people believe that
but still Germany is better to them than most other countries, yes
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x5-6 times ?150. I think he is not much off. But if you really want to know ill get some exact figures. Depends on how big family and how many kids. Also should add many get free healthcare and free dental care, it adds up. In the end it will result in worse quality for the overall population who can't afford private treatment.