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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
People will say anything to hang onto their SUVs.
The Earth is getting warmer. That means lower crop yields, lower meat production. This will force prices up and up till many won't have any.
Man-made or Nature. It's happening and no one is doing a lot to deflect the coming disaster. So yes for manty the end is nigh.
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You are deluded, misinformed and gullible. Do you write for the Guardian?
Poor manty. We never even knew ye.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
WHEN SHOULD WE START GETTING CONCERNED?
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Maybe when reality starts to match their scary projections. The fact is their projections and predictions have all been wrong. How much snake oil do you want to buy before you catch on?
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Originally Posted by **********
However, you gave me a good idea. Not to "speak down" to you - I promise I am not trying to sound like that - but what if we start with the very basics. This is not to call you or me dumb - what I am proposing is a basic framework of facts that you and I can both agree on, as a base to build a discussion on. I am talking about really basic stuff - and then simply, 1 item at a time, you and I can try to prove each of our points to the other if we disagree.
What do you think?
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Go for it. You start.
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Originally Posted by slapass
It would have to exist to be a good thing.... Just saying.
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Not sure what it is that you are "just sayin".
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Man made or Nature. It kills.
Ignore that though. What is your Government doing to protect you from rising seas, food scarcity, etc?
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Please supply exact figures on how many people die each year directly from increased CO2 and/or temperature.
You sound overly reliant on government. Do you need them to wipe your ass too?
A great leader once said - "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." You are the opposite of that.
Meanwhile, my government is taxing the shit out of everything, increasing the cost of everything, building debt loads that will cripple every future generation and reducing the temperature of the planet by exactly 0 degrees.
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Originally Posted by slapass
The polar caps will melt at a 3 degree rise. We have been there. No people existed but we were there.
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3 degrees? Data please. The Eemian interglacial was a couple degrees warmer than now and the ice caps survived just fine.
The rest of what you said makes no sense whatsoever.
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