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Old 04-21-2016, 11:07 AM  
mopek1
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Hi srockhard,

Thanks for your replies.

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1- Like i mentioned before the competition comes regardless of me selling or not Dupes and knockoffs already exist plus the fact that I've sold it before, this is NOT the first time I've sold and still is very effective at producing targeted cam traffic for Streamate whitelabels. Also I set it up for myself in lots of different ways and you should too ;)
On this point. What I've noticed with social media sites is that once a certain method of extracting traffic or value reaches a noticeable point, they make changes somehow that make the method useless. I've seen that with Tumblr and what they did to those pushing Skylikes. Enough people making good money did this and then Tumblr started deleting blogs en masse that had skylikes links in them and there goes their method. Gone in an instant.

I don't know enough about what you're selling to say if Twitter can make a change of some sort to render your bot useless or if it can adapt no matter what. Also, I don't know if Streamate can make a change too and make the bot useless.

It is compelling though. But out of curiosity, why would you sell? You've done very well over the years so why do you need the money?

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2- I am "selling" so... YES, that is my sales pitch. Is it good? I don't really care, I'm not trying to start software sales gig but it is fun to talk with you guys and share something that i'm proud of I suppose.
Telling us we'd make lots of easy money with your bot is all the selling we need.

The 'pitch' part isn't necessary and actually the fact that it's there at all is what is suspect. Marketers add the element of 'limited time' to try to get people to make fast decisions that aren't well thought through. They usually need to do this because the value of what they are selling isn't on par with the price they are selling it for.

So again that brings me back to 'why' are you selling, and also why you are 'selling'.

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4- i'm not offering unlimited free money but i'm giving you a way to drive extremely targeted traffic to your streamate white label.

This sentence below is from your original post in this thread:

"The beauty of this app is once it is setup you can simply walk away if you choose and it will keep producing signups for you which will result in cold hard cash in your pocket! You can also install multiple instances which will allow you to target multiple niches and even further your profits."

So maybe not unlimited free money (an exaggeration of what you said on my part; apologies) but you are offering a method that involves a bit of initial work and then NO WORK afterwards and then automatic, continual profits. If a system like that was offered to you, wouldn't you be skeptical or at least feel the need to question the hell out of the seller? The most ridiculous marketing pages all have huge bold type and say MAKE MONEY, NO WORK INVOLVED - (Just send me $$$ and you'll be rich without doing anything). The difference here is that you have some credibility on this board but like I said, even you'd be cautious.


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Duplicating the "scheme" won't fuck it over and actually I'd encourage anyone that HAS purchased to setup multiple instances yourself and since you already understand the secret sauce you will understand that you can target the traffic even further by focusing your desired niche(s) into the mix.
At a certain point duplication would 'fuck it over'. But if it's still in early stages or not broadly used, it can be effective.

I'm not trying to ruin your thread. On the contrary I am interested. It's just that I have been burned many many times on offers like these and have learned that if it is too good to be true, it often is. The lesson I've always taken away when I have been burned is to take lots of time to think it over first and then question like mad.

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