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Old 06-24-2016, 07:40 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho View Post
Well I'm really curious how this will play out. And I'm very curious to see the actual real consequences.

No matter what the critics say, I have to say I'm personally most glad to be an EU citizen. As much as it's described as bureaucratic, and it definitely is, so is just about every political structure. And no I don't have trust in the local government to do "better" - they won't. Their track record for the past 25 years speaks volumes.

In fact I'm terrified that they would operate under their own rule because that would mean selling the country for pennies to whoever comes and strong arms them (or bribes them) next.

In a way, EU has been the only institution that was able to get anything done for actual local people, such as when they ended the endless butt fucking of local customers from the mobile operator cartel charging I guess the second highest prices in the world for ages.

But yes this is of course from the POV of a country that by most means benefits by being a part of EU (and it's not economical immigration), there's increased trade, increased infrastructure investments etc. I also personally feel much more as an European than as a national, travel frequently, do business internationally, and want to keep it that way.
Czech has done exceedingly well by being in the EU. I've been here 18 years and seen the changes.

How would you feel if a million migrants decided to live here? Most needing benefits or on low wages? Compare it with the gypsy community here.

The UK has 12% foreign born people living there. The vast majority wouldn't have got in under a points based system. House prices have skyrocketed. My old place in Essex has trebled in price, our place here has gone up 20%.

This isn't about Nationality. It's about living standards.

If all those 12% were contributing, we would never have voted to leave. It's all about skills and income levels.
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