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LovinNothin · 07-05-2016, 04:59 PM

Be warned. Don't take my word for it, Google online traffic brokers and the shit they sell. Over 2/3 to 75% of ALL traffic today is bot traffic.

These crooked ass traffic brokers that sell "clicks" have found a loop hole by simply adding terms in their TOS like: "We are not responsible for bot traffic" and "We are not legally liable for webmasters using bot traffic" and my favorite, "If you encounter any bot traffic please bring it to our attention as we are always trying to remove these webmasters that use bots."

The worst bot traffic brokers are the ones selling popunders and skim traffic. You are just buying numbers on a screen.

The brokers selling banners control the number of hits you can get from each banner. The over flow going to other affiliate websites or banner urls.

One big joke is JuicyAds, where a banner is advertised with 10,000 daily impressions and the banner appears to be getting about 85 clicks per day. But after you buy it, your clicks drop to 9 a day. Why? Because your banner isn't in that spot 24 hours a day as the spot has been sold to other webmasters who are also getting 9 clicks a day and OR your hits are being redirected to other affiliate sites by way of geo IP locations. Example: All your hits from Canada from 3 am to 7 am are going some place else. By rotating your hits with geo IP control, there is no way of knowing exactly where all your hits are really going. When you complain to Juicy about it, they will tell you, "oh, your ad isn't that attractive and you need a better one." LOL Try testing that theory out with the same ad in other sites and you can easily spot patterns. Have you ever noticed when you are getting "too many" hits from a banner, then, all of a sudden, your hits are cut in half? That's because your hits have been redirected. But it's not crooked webmasters, it's your banner, it's not very attractive.

When you buy CPM, you will get hardly any clicks, but buy CPC in the exact same website, and you will get 20 times more clicks. Why? Because you are paying more for CPC and the webmasters make more money so they send you more clicks. With CPM, you are supposed to make the same amount of hits per 1K, but mysteriously, you don't.

It's all one big fucking scam.

PlugRush is bot city. Over half their traffic is bots. Just check the IP's coming in from any spot. You will see the exact same IP's and cities popping up every hour. When I went to war with them about it, they said, what they all do, "we are working hard to remove bot traffic, thank you for reporting it."

FUCKING CROOKS. Most of the websites that these brokers sell traffic from ARE FROM THEIR OWN SITES. All using fake bots to pad the impressions. You think your banner is getting 20,000 impressions a day, while it's only really getting 1200 impressions.

I estimate for every banner, you get about 10 to 15% real traffic. It's all fake impressions with 10 to 15% real traffic pumped in for "effect." Sure, so now you'll get a couple real hits from the 5000 impressions you purchased so the website "appears" to be legit and that industry award they just got seems justified.

And as you shell out big bucks for a small amount of hits and as your business begins to die you just chalk it up to the fact that porn is free and you're in a dying market.
But what you don't realize is your business is dying because you are buying nothing but numbers on a screen and don't have any real visitors to your website because you are buying traffic from these low life scum sucking traffic brokers that all haven't been indicted yet because there is no Federal Regulations put in place on traffic brokering. It's the wild west and they are scamming and stealing money right in front of your face and you either don't know it and or can't do a fucking thing about it.

Have you ever noticed with banner ads, you will get clicks on the banner, yet, for some reason, 95% of your visitors don't even bother looking at your site? Because the hits are bots. Check the math and the averages. Even the IP's now can be redirected. Everything is redirected and faked. IPs that start in China can end up looking like they came from New York.

The best minds are in traffic brokering and they are all way ahead of the game because there is no regulation. No liability. It's like Napster. Napster would hide behind the fact that "we don't host the illegal music, we only sell a membership to access it." That was great until they got busted. It's the exact same thing with traffic brokers. "We are not liable for bot traffic, we just sell you access to it."

And for those that say, "selling bot traffic only hurts the seller." LOL That's bullshit. Why? Because for every loser that wipes out buying fake traffic there are 10 other new buyers where he came from. The business model is burn and churn. Make what what you can from your buyer, burn him and move on the next.

And these asshole traffic brokers pat themselves on the back with industry awards to make their companies look legit.

The adult market has crashed, so who is buying traffic? Nobody. So how can these brokers stay alive in a dead market? SELL FAKE BOT TRAFFIC. (oh, but "please report it when you get it, because we frown at webmasters that use bots and we are working hard everyday to stop these corrupt webmasters.")

07-05-2016, 04:59 PM
LovinNothin So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 565	Be warned. Don't take my word for it, Google online traffic brokers and the shit they sell. Over 2/3 to 75% of ALL traffic today is bot traffic. These crooked ass traffic brokers that sell "clicks" have found a loop hole by simply adding terms in their TOS like: "We are not responsible for bot traffic" and "We are not legally liable for webmasters using bot traffic" and my favorite, "If you encounter any bot traffic please bring it to our attention as we are always trying to remove these webmasters that use bots." The worst bot traffic brokers are the ones selling popunders and skim traffic. You are just buying numbers on a screen. The brokers selling banners control the number of hits you can get from each banner. The over flow going to other affiliate websites or banner urls. One big joke is JuicyAds, where a banner is advertised with 10,000 daily impressions and the banner appears to be getting about 85 clicks per day. But after you buy it, your clicks drop to 9 a day. Why? Because your banner isn't in that spot 24 hours a day as the spot has been sold to other webmasters who are also getting 9 clicks a day and OR your hits are being redirected to other affiliate sites by way of geo IP locations. Example: All your hits from Canada from 3 am to 7 am are going some place else. By rotating your hits with geo IP control, there is no way of knowing exactly where all your hits are really going. When you complain to Juicy about it, they will tell you, "oh, your ad isn't that attractive and you need a better one." LOL Try testing that theory out with the same ad in other sites and you can easily spot patterns. Have you ever noticed when you are getting "too many" hits from a banner, then, all of a sudden, your hits are cut in half? That's because your hits have been redirected. But it's not crooked webmasters, it's your banner, it's not very attractive. When you buy CPM, you will get hardly any clicks, but buy CPC in the exact same website, and you will get 20 times more clicks. Why? Because you are paying more for CPC and the webmasters make more money so they send you more clicks. With CPM, you are supposed to make the same amount of hits per 1K, but mysteriously, you don't. It's all one big fucking scam. PlugRush is bot city. Over half their traffic is bots. Just check the IP's coming in from any spot. You will see the exact same IP's and cities popping up every hour. When I went to war with them about it, they said, what they all do, "we are working hard to remove bot traffic, thank you for reporting it." FUCKING CROOKS. Most of the websites that these brokers sell traffic from ARE FROM THEIR OWN SITES. All using fake bots to pad the impressions. You think your banner is getting 20,000 impressions a day, while it's only really getting 1200 impressions. I estimate for every banner, you get about 10 to 15% real traffic. It's all fake impressions with 10 to 15% real traffic pumped in for "effect." Sure, so now you'll get a couple real hits from the 5000 impressions you purchased so the website "appears" to be legit and that industry award they just got seems justified. And as you shell out big bucks for a small amount of hits and as your business begins to die you just chalk it up to the fact that porn is free and you're in a dying market. But what you don't realize is your business is dying because you are buying nothing but numbers on a screen and don't have any real visitors to your website because you are buying traffic from these low life scum sucking traffic brokers that all haven't been indicted yet because there is no Federal Regulations put in place on traffic brokering. It's the wild west and they are scamming and stealing money right in front of your face and you either don't know it and or can't do a fucking thing about it. Have you ever noticed with banner ads, you will get clicks on the banner, yet, for some reason, 95% of your visitors don't even bother looking at your site? Because the hits are bots. Check the math and the averages. Even the IP's now can be redirected. Everything is redirected and faked. IPs that start in China can end up looking like they came from New York. The best minds are in traffic brokering and they are all way ahead of the game because there is no regulation. No liability. It's like Napster. Napster would hide behind the fact that "we don't host the illegal music, we only sell a membership to access it." That was great until they got busted. It's the exact same thing with traffic brokers. "We are not liable for bot traffic, we just sell you access to it." And for those that say, "selling bot traffic only hurts the seller." LOL That's bullshit. Why? Because for every loser that wipes out buying fake traffic there are 10 other new buyers where he came from. The business model is burn and churn. Make what what you can from your buyer, burn him and move on the next. And these asshole traffic brokers pat themselves on the back with industry awards to make their companies look legit. The adult market has crashed, so who is buying traffic? Nobody. So how can these brokers stay alive in a dead market? SELL FAKE BOT TRAFFIC. (oh, but "please report it when you get it, because we frown at webmasters that use bots and we are working hard everyday to stop these corrupt webmasters.")