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Old 01-30-2017, 05:41 PM  
Elli
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Originally Posted by onwebcam View Post
Carefully controlled? Over 400,000 people overstayed their temporary visas in 1 year.

"The Homeland Security report on overstays was limited to foreigners whose permission to be in the U.S. expired during the 2015 fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30. It examined admissions for business or pleasure by air or sea, which were 85% of arrivals with visitor permits that expired in fiscal 2015, but not other smaller categories such as visas for students or for temporary workers and their families. It covered only those who arrived by sea or air, not land arrivals from Canada or Mexico, which account for most temporary visitors.

The report indicates that the number of foreign visitors who overstay dwindles over time. In all, the report said that out of the 45 million arrivals who were supposed to depart in fiscal 2015, about 527,000 remained in the country after their permission to stay expired, a rate of 1.17%. Some of these overstays later departed, but 483,000 were still in the U.S. at the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30, a rate of 1.07%. More left the U.S. after that, so by Jan. 4, 2016, an estimated 416,500 were still in the country, a rate of 0.9%. The DHS report said some have likely left since then, or obtained or renewed a legal visa."

Homeland Security produces first estimate of foreign visitors to U.S. who overstay deadline to leave | Pew Research Center
From the report that is the basis of that study:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/fi...20Re port.pdf

"An overstay is a nonimmigrant who was lawfully admitted to the United States for an authorized period but stayed in the United States beyond his or her lawful admission period. "

So the report is about people entering the states for all purposes like tourist, students, etc. NOT IMMIGRANTS.

"It is important to note that the total number of FY 2015 overstays, as identified in this
report, does not equal the total number of FY 2015 overstays that currently remain in the United States. That number is likely lower. This is because foreign nationals identified as possible overstays can and do subsequently depart the United States, or have been
found to have adjusted their lawful status. For purposes of this report, these are still considered overstays."

According to this report, the suspected overstay rates for 2015 for the seven banned countries are with suspected in country overstay numbers:
Iraq -6% - 681 people
Iran - 2% - 564 people
Libya - 4.5% - 56 people
Somalia - 1.4% - 2 people
Sudan - 7.5% - 278 people
Syria - 3% - 440 people
Yemen - 6% - 219 people

total people suspected to be overstaying their visa inside the US: 2,240
Total people from ALL countries EXCEPT Mexico and Canada expected to be overstaying their visa inside the US: 210,825

So all of this is to stop .01% of people from overstaying their visas? Why was a global ban with a huge press release etc needed when continuing the screening as per Obama's policy would have done just fine?
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