Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Since the discussion is not about any of those things and specifically the Stanford?Binet IQ test which is the de facto, world wide standard when mentioning "IQ" and "IQ Test", I think it's safe to say that you need help as you even have no idea what anyone is saying.

Further, I read about the brain and learning DAILY. I practice what I learn daily in teaching. I train people daily. From casual books to text books... while you read nothing but Trump tweets.... and you didn't know about any of those rather new supposed categories of "intelligence" until you googled them.

Additionally, i am more than happy to prove you wrong in anything you have to say on the subject as I generally know what studies will debunk whatever crap you'll post and consider myself to be up to date on anything related to learning and particularly motor learning as it's my personal obsession as someone who trains people to fight.

Unlike you, i'm not googling furiously to make a point. Take "musical intelligence" which is something that i've never heard of. Why? Because it is never mentioned in neuroscience or books on the brain or books on learning. Why is it never mentioned? Because its bullshit. Having "perfect pitch" as its called as an example is not an innate trait. It's learned just as anything else is. It's something more common in children under 6 and fades as we age. it's something easily learned in adults or children.But it is learned. It's far easier when people speak a tonal language. it's not an innate trait. Adults can learn "perfect pitch" in a couple weeks with the right learning process.

Music related skills are BY FAR the most misunderstood of any learned skill and most often attributed to a "personal gift"... .but from Mozart to Michael Jordan to Michael Jackson to Tiger Woods to any 12-year-old violin "prodigy", behind their skill, is countless 1000s of hours of practice (except that most of Mozarts early work is plagiarized, being other known works pieced together, or written in his father's hand - also a composer/music teacher) and the intense efforts of crazed parents living through their kids to achieve the fame they felt they deserved by forcing their children into insane amounts of practice, coaching and learning.

The worst thing about attributing learned skills to being an innate gift is that it
1) totally diminishes, dismisses and ignores the years of very very hard work of the performer put in to attain that level of skill
2) it suggests to others that they shouldn't try to excel if they don't possess some "gift" already... which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and one not rooted in any kind of fact or even reality