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Old 11-04-2018, 04:06 AM  
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
I'm saying that porn is a lot smaller financially than it was, not that it's dead. To illustrate that I show the huge amount of traffic that now resides on free sites, P2P site, file lockers and of course Tubes. these are not people who would never buy porn they are people who used to buy porn.
the majority of users ALWAYS came from fee sites.
in the past it was TGPs and they could not survive because their only product was porn.
now there are even ore people on tubes as in that times you know.
but they sell whatever advertisers are willing to pay for and this is why they can survive.

I remember some big TGPs from the good old times that even blocked traffic from TIER2-countries because they did not know how to monetize them. but TIER 2 and TIER 3 are 100 times more people as you will find in TIER 1. and sure they do have a smaller buying power but they compensate that with mass.

porn is still the magnet to get all of them in huge numbers and traffic is money as long you have people that are focused on markets (what an affiliate webmaster can NEVER be).

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Few people browse porn sites as a past time. People browse porn to jerk off or fuck, then get on with the rest of their day.
I am not sure what kind of a man you are. but I personally do not know anybody that spends his day with jerking off. the AVERAGE holding time even on paysites was NEVER higher than 10-15 minutes.

i will give you an example:
we have a gaming advertisers since years that is promoting online games with us.
why the average holding time on the free tubes in our network is between 6 and 8 minutes the customers we send them are playing 1 hour in average there.

even though a huge percentage of people still visit porn sites, the time they spend there is by far the smallest part of their online time. and that hasn't just been the case for a few years - it's always been - with the difference that we now have about 70 times more internet users than back then...

in 1997, 70 million people worldwide had an internet connection. the current figure is over 4.5 billion.


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The two claiming the opposite have only been in porn online and no clue of porn prior to that.
means: you are talking about the time before jesus christ was born and we talk about NOW.

before the internet there were a handful of people who lived from porn. there were also porn cinemas where you had to go if you wanted to watch a porn (funnily enough most of them in india).

today hundreds of thousands of people live from and with porn.
you just didn't understand the word MARKET. you're just talking about that you can see in the field of vision of your blinkers.

but the porn business itself is much more and includes the complete periphery, like hosting, programming, content management, traffic management and much more.

ask brad from mojo host or another porn specialized hoster if his business has gone back in the years. because if you would be right that would be the first to feel it.

but i can already tell you what he will answer you. he will tell you that his business has multiplied but the number of customers has not.
and in plain language that means that today the cake belongs only to the clever - and you simply don't belong to them.

you belong to this species of stone-age people who do not see a solar eclipse as a natural phenomenon but as the end of the world.
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