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Old 11-29-2018, 09:16 AM  
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Originally Posted by klinton View Post
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so this movie wasnt based on facts ???


such a dissapointment ! I thought that the Dutch resistance in ww2 was "as strong" as French and Czech ! such a dissapointment !

Soldaat van Oranje, Orange Soldier, the most famous person in the Dutch resistance.
After the war he went to live in Canada. And he was angry cause after the war nothing changed politicaly and people that where wrong or didn't resist got the best jobs again.

The state of the military is bad in Holland. Just like before WW2. Dutch soldiers even haven't got a qualified shooting range. They had to close the last one cause it was unsafe (thin wooden fencesinstead of concrete) and a soldier got killed. And that is when they have ammunition, most of the time they have to shout Pang Pang (not kidding, a minister laughed about it cause he found that funny, while he sends troop to wars). A mortar exploded and killed 2 dutch soldiers cause the army used old second hand ones, they had to buy quickly cause they where run out. I was in military 9 months and realy, those people are so dump and stupid. Not capable of thinking themselves. People that in real life won't be able to have a good career.

So, i won't be fighting. Shouting pang-pang to some planes or cruise missile isn't smart. And why fight, they want 1 big Europe, and Russia is Europe. Than they have what they want. I was against the Ukrain treaty just for that. And if there will be a war, i would buy my own weapons, easier and better.

My brother was in Srebrenica when the enclave went down. He was in the bunker with Karremans (that guy on the picture). He had to sent the messages from Karremans to drop bombs on/near their own positions. but the France and other backed of. Another reason for me never to count on an EU army or NATO. He could tell weeks before what was happening cause he could make phone calls... my mother could hear the bombs falling when he called. but the politicians didn't know…. they say.. And that politician that laughed about soldiers having to shout pang-pang. That political party insisted that Holland would only go to Srebrenica with minor weapons, cause it was a peace mission.... the last 2 months they even hadn't gasoline or much food. And nobody thought about helping them. Children who where begging at the gates for food and they gave it to them… where was NATO? Where was EU?

So that is my advice like a said several years before. Leave, and come back in a few years. Or try making a good economy in the part of the Ukrain that is still Ukrain. It is already better i heard, know people that go on holiday there.
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