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Originally Posted by SilentKnight
I think his point being it's slightly more acceptable and user-friendly to put "adult entertainment" on your business card or resume - than "the porn business."
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no that was not my point.
adult-biz in internet did not really start with selling porn pics.
it started with sex-shops and sex-dating mostly.
later we sold pics and later also videos and the affiliate pyramid model made it easy for everybody to be the owner of an affiliate program.
the really big booms in this industry have been based on scams called dialer and mobile subscriptions.
for both of it content was not important. they could be done with 10 pictures or 5 videos and some of them had not even that.
but with both of this scams the real billions where made.
the business with members areas seems to be huge as long as you have only a few of them and as long you are dealing with rich users (when internet was expensive 100% of the few users had a huge buying power).
but in compare to the rest of the money that is made in internet porn is and always was a little peanut.
a webmaster that was working with porn in the 90s and beginning of the new millenium had no other product to sell than porn, because nobody wanted to advertise on porn sites. this was the time when a few thousands of member sites made 50% of the revenue and the other 50% went to adultfriendfinder and a few sex shops.
so actually adultfriendfinder alone was the same size as ALL content selling sites together.
than dialers came up and if you would own a site where just 5% of the traffic came from europe you would make with this 5% around 20 times more as with the 95% from countries where dialers did not exist.
in this time we blocked traffic from US and other TIER1 countries or send them to paysites with a redirect - because they still made a few 1000 extra but those where peanuts.
the next big hype came with mobile subscriptions.
in the years when mobile got big nearly no membersite did even work on mobile.
in 2006 aproximately 6% of our traffic was mobile and this 6% made 95% of the total revenue.
the funny thing was that not one mobile offer was porn - in most countries not even titts have been allowed.
in 2011 and 2012 i made with just mobile redirects around 50.000 € PER DAY !!!!
and we did not target niches or HQ-stuff as it was impossible to deliver it via mobile.
all what we looked at was country, OS and mobile carrier and send them directly to a signup page.
today all this things are history and if free porn would not bring this huge numbers of users the biz would be gone already.
now finally the biz model is to use free porn to get the big numbers and sell adspace to everybody who is interested in this group.
smart advertisers know that wankers do not wank all day long. in the rest of the time they are ordinary consumers that spend money for everything.
today we have a situation where the income of porn sites is still 70% depending on dating. but alone this revenues are 100 times more than all revenues from porn member sites together.
but even the "real porn sales" (selling videos and pictures) do not need markhams.
90% of this revenues are made through amateur sites with selfproduced videos.
and they still sell a single video for 10 dollar while you can get a membership on a video site with thousands of videos for 7,99 per month.
all this are FACTS and this facts in sum should enlighten paul that not the tubes killed this market - there was nothing to kill - it was NEVER a big goal and time killed it.
there is a number about porn consumption from 2000 til today.
in compare to the complete buying power of ALL users on all pornsites this users ALWAYS spend 0,26% of their budget for porn. it WAS like that and it still IS like that.
that means that paul believes, that a dick with a length of 0,26 inches is the biggest dick in the world, because he have never seen a bigger one.
porn internet today is dealing with users that are attracted with porn. but the products that are advertised there are mostly not porn. simply because no classic porn site can afford to to buy this traffic because their lifetime value will never pay for the costs.
and even if you would take ALL FREE PORN out of the internet it would not make the cake bigger. and even IF it would become bigger it is always in relation to the number of people who want to eat from this cake.
this is why we do not need to focus on one little cake - we focus on thousand of cakes of different sizes.