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Originally Posted by sarettah
Hello Lili,
Since you have expertise in camming and affiliate marketing, and seem to have direct contact with models, what would you recommend as the best way to get models to stop cheating the system by telling users to clear cookies and sign up under them.
I realize that the problem may not be as prevalent as it may sometimes seem but it is an issue. The current method of reporting models to Chaturbate and hoping the support takes action is quite cumbersome and frustrating. It is just whack a mole in the long run.
Most of us (I think) would rather not having to be reporting models. Nobody wants to feel like they are ratting somebody out. I think we would all like to send models traffic.
Some of us, if we are running an api loaded site, will just keep a filter list so when we learn of a model doing that we just make sure that none of our traffic goes directly to that model.
Personally, I would like to send as much traffic as I can to as many models as I can but I do want the credit for my efforts to go to me and not be diverted along the way.
So, as I said at the start, do you have any recommendations in this regard?
Thanks in advance.
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First is to understand the nature of the offense. There are three types of models stealing affiliate signups: the ignorant, the locusts, and sheep. The ignorant don't know what an affiliate is, they believe if they don't get the extra 20%, Chaturbate keeps it so in their minds they think "why let it go to waste?" there are also those who kinda know a little but don't understand the scope or the impact of what they are doing. This first group is the majority.
Then there are the locusts, the second group, these girls know perfectly well what they are doing and they don't care, they are willing to let the ship sink if that means they get a minimal advantage. It's like those piracy sites, exactly the same mechanic: neither cares what happens to the other side of the equation, they are willing to destroy an entire industry to keep themselves afloat, they have no qualms. These people will never change.
The third group is the sheep. These girls know what they are doing is wrong... and perhaps they didn't steal at first, they had their own reservations, but they see how many do it, maybe she has seen her own members switch affiliate accounts to support another model on the site and they figure "why should I be the only decent one here?" so they join the bad crowd.
What is the solution? First to know you will never change the locusts, they don't give a fuck and in those cases you do need to chase them if you want to stop them from doing this. CB support has been quite vigilant making sure models remove the "clear cookies" texts form their bios, but they can't do anything if the model approaches the member privately... say... on social media.. and asks them to signup with a new account. You need to be prepared to either fight them for it, or accept it as a part of the business.
But there IS something we can do about the ignorant and the sheep. We need to educate the ignorant so they understand what the importance of the affiliate maketers is and how stealing from them puts them off the site entirely. How, when in 2014 MFC got too big for it's britches and decided to cut the affiliate program off they went to the shitter and Chaturbate overtook them in less than a year, they haven't been able to recover from that poor business choice and probably never will. Traffic is what makes our work possible, and we don't get traffic without affiliates. When models cheat the affiliates they go advertise something else. And then models complain about a drop in traffic and difficulty earning what they used to. It is all interlinked!
And for the sheep I think shaming is the best tactic, but that would require to teach the ignorant and get a few of the big names all the other girls look up to in the wagon of "save the affiliates! fuck the cheaters!" which could be quite hard to do.
If you want a piece of advice: no industry is perfectly efficient and there are losses and problems with any job. You put up a supermarket and you will have people stealing shit all the time, what do you do? you should put up better security systems? yeah, will you make it your mission to curb robberies in the US just to save your supermaket? that's an impossible utopia. What you do is you try to secure your own business as best you can and take into account robberies as part of the expenses. Same thing here. There will be stealing, always... very little you can do. Blacklisting models who ask members to clear cookies from your whitelabel is like placing a security system on your supermarket. But what you really should do is figure out a way to make so many signups that if they steal a handful is not a big deal.