Quote:
Originally Posted by 2MuchMark
I don't have any employees. My programmers are all sub-contractors. Robert is neither an employee nor a sub-contractor for me.
When did I call you dishonest? Or a stalker? Or a Scammer? What threads? You called Legacy a scammer here, and you called others stalkers here, and you called cyberhustler a stalker and a scammer here, and you called someone named Osterholt a stalker here,, but when did I say that about you? |
I am so glad you asked:
2MuchMark (Mark Prince) - Sealioning Evidence
What is Sealioning?
Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just asking questions!"). The sealioner feigns ignorance and pretends that if you just answer this one question, they'll go away—but they never do.
THREAD 1: AI Agents / Website Deployment Thread
URL:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...-websites.html
Context:
Mindi demonstrated an AI-powered website deployment system, showing MontrealInsider.com built in real-time with 564 restaurants and 32 articles. Multiple members responded positively (pornlaw, bill_musk, fuzebox, Shoplifter, Farang, Killswitch).
The Sealioning Pattern - Post by Post
Post #55 - Opens with compliment, immediately probes:
"First let me say, impressive automation work... Im curious though: with all the early rankings youve shown, do you happen to have any traffic graphs yet?"
Post #57 - When called out, plays innocent:
"It was just a standard SEO question since you shared the ranking screenshots. I wasnt implying any competition."
Post #59 - Still playing victim after being told to leave:
"Relax... it was just a standard SEO question based on the screenshots you posted."
Post #76 - After being told to fuck off MULTIPLE TIMES, keeps pushing:
"I noticed in your Search Console screenshot that many of your top rankings are for specific restaurant names... they show very low/zero search volume. Could you share some examples of your rankings for higher-volume discovery keywords like 'best restaurants in brantford'?"
Post #78 - THE EMPLOYMENT LIE:
"To clarify: Legacy is not my employee and never was, but we have several of the same clients. I often refer contractors to my clients..."
⚠️ SMOKING GUN: TheLegacy's LinkedIn profile stated (at the time): "Chief Program Director in charge of Marketing and SEO at 2Much.net, Feb 2021 - Current"
Post #78 continued - Fake business offer:
"I have potential clients for you Minidi... I asked about ranking data for competitive keywords because that's standard due diligence when evaluating SEO claims"
Post #80 - Fake "olive branch":
"I am completely serious when I say I have 1, possibly 2 clients for you... this is an olive branch..."
Post #82 - Classic sealion deflection:
"Is my question wrong?"
Post #85 - Still pushing after 11+ rejections:
"I am asking on their behalf... Do you want her business? Her questions are valid aren't they?"
Post #87 - Links Google's helpful content guidelines (implying Mindi's content is spam)
Post #88 - THE MASK SLIPS:
"This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works."
Third-Party Observations
Umami Post #90:
"2MuchMark is the type of dude that got told no at parties and still continued to grope the girl"
Killswitch Post #92:
"Just so you're aware we can see exactly what you're trying to do and it's not cool at all"
THREAD 2: Tango Down Extension Thread
URL:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...r-blocker.html
Context
Mindi released a free Chrome extension for blocking GFY users. Coordinated attack immediately followed.
The Attack Pattern
CyberHustler Post #8:
"Practice extreme caution... Bro's post history here is almost 30 years of information mining and doxxing"
Umami Post #9:
"wouldn't be surprised if it had some kind of backdoor that steals your passwords, crypto keys"
TheLegacy Post #61: Claims "Mark Prince" (2MuchMark) reviewed the code and found:
"XSS vulnerability"
"backdoor potential"
Posts technical analysis attempting to discredit extension
2MuchMark Posts #69-70: Detailed technical FUD:
"MAJOR RED FLAGS" with <all_urls> permission
"Remote Update Mechanism = Backdoor Potential"
"XSS vulnerability" in version checker
Posts "proof of concept" exploit code
"This is sneakier than a backdoor"
Third-Party Code Verification (Contradicts 2MuchMark's Claims)
Killswitch Post #45:
"I just audited the code and it literally does exactly what it says... massive improvement from my original script"
fris Post #54:
"i agree before saying that its harmful at least look at the source code of the extension, which has nothing malicious in the code"
sarettah: Tested extension, reported bug, Mindi fixed immediately (normal software development)
THREAD 3: Snow Thread
URL:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...ive-snows.html
Context
General discussion about winter weather. Shows 2MuchMark defending TheLegacy.
2MuchMark Post #38 - Defends TheLegacy when called a fraud:
"Not liking him is one thing but why do you call Legacy a fraud?"
2MuchMark Post #41 - Pressures for response:
"Crickets? I see."
THE CONTRADICTION SUMMARY
What 2MuchMark Claims:
"It was just a standard SEO question"
"I wasnt implying any competition"
"Is my question wrong?"
"I am only asking you a simple SEO question"
"Legacy is not my employee and never was"
What 2MuchMark Actually Does:
Demands public proof that SEO rankings are legitimate
Implies rankings are for low-value keywords
Links Google guidelines (implying content is spam)
Continues pushing after 11+ explicit rejections
Issues ultimatum: "This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works"
Lies about TheLegacy employment relationship (LinkedIn proves otherwise)
Coordinates with TheLegacy on technical FUD attacks
Defends TheLegacy in unrelated threads
THE SEALIONING PLAYBOOK (Documented)
Open with a compliment to establish "good faith"
Ask "innocent" technical questions designed to cast doubt
When rejected, play victim ("just asking questions")
Ignore all boundaries - continue probing regardless of how many times told to leave
Link authoritative sources implying target is violating guidelines
Offer fake business opportunities as leverage
Demand public proof of legitimacy
Repeat "Is my question wrong?" to maintain plausible deniability
Final ultimatum revealing true intent to discredit
SOCK PUPPET ACCOUNTS (All Created June 2025)
Umami - Immediate malware accusations
lemonlinx - Harassment support
CrystalPalace - Harassment support
All three accounts created the same month, all participate in coordinated attacks.
KEY EVIDENCE LINKS
TheLegacy LinkedIn: Shows employment at 2Much.net since Feb 2021
AI Agents Thread: Full sealioning pattern documented
Tango Down Thread: Technical FUD campaign despite third-party verification
Snow Thread: 2MuchMark defending TheLegacy
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