Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Many have businesses in both adult and mainstream. Come here to discuss your mainstream business, find new traffic opportunities, new programs to promote, and more! Whether you are in the FOREX, dating, gambling, gaming, herbal products, blogging, or any other mainstream business this forum will take your business to the next level!

 
Thread Tools
Old 07-01-2011, 09:38 PM   #1
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
One Time Special Deal Offer For Banned Amazon Affiliates!

OK, first of all, the solution I am offering to banned Amazon affiliates is completely legal, does NOT involve any sort of tax evasion and is indeed acceptable to Amazon.

Amazon has banned affiliates in several states, most recently, California. Remember this part, the affiliates located in California were the business entities, whether DBAs, individuals or corporations but at any rate, ALL business entities acting as Amazon affiliates physically located IN California have been banned.

There is nothing in the ban which precludes a California resident from owning or operating a business entity located in a DIFFERENT state in which Amazon has not banned affiliates. There is NO law which precludes a California resident from owning or operating a business in another state. Were there such a law, Californians would be prohibited from owning STOCK in out-of-state corporations, which they clearly are not.

The fact that an individual may own or work for an out-of-state entity in no way obligates that business entity for California sales tax. If such were the case, stockholders in GM who reside in California would be liable for sales tax for GM cars sold in Nevada, which they obviously are not.

Remember, it is quite legal for a California resident to own and operate a business located in another state.

Since California residents are not domiciled in Kansas; that is, they live in California, the best way to do business in Kansas is through a Kansas corporation, which has a legal physical address in Kansas and a Registered Agent who is physically located in Kansas and who has a physical mailing address in Kansas and a post office box will not do.

So here is the solution in step-by-step form to the issues facing banned California-based Amazon affiliates:

(1) The banned Amazon affilate purchases a Kansas corporation through my service at a specially discounted rate. The corporation is good for one year, a physical address is provided, Registered Agent service is provided for one year, a mailing address is provided if needed, Articles of Incorporation are provided, a very professionally done up set of Corporate Bylaws are provided and the entire setup is 100% legal and above board. This is the same service that places like Legal Zoom will charge well over $1000.00 for but I am offering a specially discounted price of $249.00 for EXACTLY the same service.

(2) The banned affiliate can then obtain an EIN (Employer Identification Number) for the new corporation or for a small additional charge, I will obtain that number for the affiliate.

(3) The banned affiliate then registers the new KANSAS corporation with Amazon as the affiliate business entity as the KANSAS corporation is NOT located in California and has no business presence there. Merely having an employee in California does NOT automatically create a "business presence" in that state within the meaning of the term because the affilate is working for the KANSAS corporation. The KANSAS corporation should in fact do NO business in the state of California to ensure that no business presence is established, including opening a corporate bank account in California. With Amazon, you do not need a corporate bank account but you should use the corporate EIN when registering with Amazon as there would be no withholding from income to a corporation if the affilate selects "Exempt From Withholding".

(3) As far as getting paid by Amazon, Amazon does not care where it sends the money, so the affiliate can simply open a personal bank account, select "Wire Transfer", which has a $100 minimum payout and a $15 fee and Amazon will ask only for the Name of the bank, the Routing and Account numbers. If the affiliate wants to be paid by check, a corporate bank account could be opened and I would recommend Bank of America for those as they whould not give the affiliate too much trouble as long as the proper documentation is presented. Another way around this is to use the individual's name as the name of the corporation so that there would be even less trouble depositing into a personal account. Up to the affiliate; makes no difference to me.

(4) Neither myself nor the Registered Agent have any interest in the corporation and the Registered Agent only receives mail for the corporation, most of which is junk mail anyway but will forward any official mail to the actual owner of the corporation at no additional charge.

(5) The Amazon Affiliate then earns and prospers in a legal, ethical and moral manner. All is happiness and justice prevails.`

This method is NOT "tax evasion" as a corporation located outside of California would owe NO California tax of any kind anyway without a physical presence in that state and the Kansas corporation will have none. Quite legal and above board.

As a reminder, no Social Security Number, no business license and no additional fees are required in Kansas for me to set up a corporation for banned Amazon affiliates.

If you are concerned about a bank account setup, let me know via Skype and I can help you with some suggestions which would assuage your concerns as there all any number of ways to skin that cat.

I have established a unique email address at which I can be contacted for this service but for initial contact please use SKYPE only; I will not use ICQ:

onestopcorporationshop

I'll be in and out this holiday weekend so if I show as "Online" I am close to the computer. If I show as "Away", I am away but you can still send me messages.

If I can be of help, hit me up and in the meantime, enjoy the weekend!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2011, 09:53 PM   #2
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
No one here is that stupid. Move on con artist.

.
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 06:52 AM   #3
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by L-Pink View Post
No one here is that stupid. Move on con artist.

.
Qoute this:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1017967

"New Forum Rules!
All existing GFY rules stand in this forum.

Additionally, there will be a few other rules.

1) Stick To Business - This is not a place for fucking around. There is a forum for that, take it there.
2) Trolling - Any and all trolling in this forum will be punished with a ban. No questions asked.
3) Announcements - One time company or program announcement. Spamming this forum will result in a warning, further spamming will result in a ban. If you want to make more than one announcement becoming an advertiser by contacting me eric @T AVN DOT com.
4) Adult Related Items - Adult related items should be posted in the proper forums, posting them here will result in them being moved. Multiple violations of this rule will result in banning. Sigs exempt.

Keep the forum clean and we will all make some money.
__________________
Marketing Mastermind of GFY.com
Advertise on GFY! Email me for Rates: eric AT gfy DOT com or ICQ: 345235540"
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:01 AM   #4
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
OK, first of all, the solution I am offering to banned Amazon affiliates is completely legal, does NOT involve any sort of tax evasion and is indeed acceptable to Amazon.
Hey Sydney,

Do you have something from Amazon saying that this is acceptable to them? Or are you just surmising it from reading their associate agreement(s) and restrictions?

Thanx in advance




.
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:52 AM   #5
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
Hey Sydney,

Do you have something from Amazon saying that this is acceptable to them? Or are you just surmising it from reading their associate agreement(s) and restrictions?

Thanx in advance




.
Amazon does not accept affiliates from certain states, including California. Amazon does accept affiliates from Kansas. In this instance, the KANSAS CORPORATION is the business entity which has affiliate status and KANSAS is NOT banned by Amazon. Makes no difference who owns stock in the corporation or who works for the corporation. The CORPORATION is the affiliate, NOT the individual and the LOCATION or RESIDENCE of the corporation is the key.

It would be best however for the INDIVIDUAL or the CORPORATION to have a receiving bank account in a non-banned state. Easy to open savings accounts and bank accounts online in UNBANNED states. If a local address is needed in the UNBANNED state, a UPS Store box can be opened quite easily and that address used for mailing and address purposes. This can actually be done over the phone and via the FAXing of required documents.

Amazon accepts individuals AND corporations as affiliates as long as they are not based in a banned state. Again, KANSAS is NOT a banned state.

See?

So easy, even a cave man could do it!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 09:27 AM   #6
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
Ok, now, how about an answer to my question in plain simple terms for us stupid folk.

Do you have something from Amazon stating this is acceptable to them? (This is a yes/no question so if you type more than 3 characters you are doing something wrong)

Thanx in advance...
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 09:48 AM   #7
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
Ok, now, how about an answer to my question in plain simple terms for us stupid folk.

Do you have something from Amazon stating this is acceptable to them? (This is a yes/no question so if you type more than 3 characters you are doing something wrong)

Thanx in advance...
Yes.

You know you can't type only three letters in a reply here, so stop being disingenuous.

Please see TOS of Amazon associates.

TOS are TOS, just like on any other affiliate program. You don't need PERMISSION to abide by the TOS.

Amazon accepts affiliates from KANSAS, as KANSAS is not a BANNED state, therefore any business entity located in KANSAS can sign up as an affilate, just as any business entity in any other UNBANNED state may sign up as an affilate with Amazon.

You can sign up with a KANSAS corporation here:

https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ply-login.html

You do not need any special approval to sign up from a state WHICH IS NOT BANNED!

You are treading on harrassment here, so you should watch your step.


https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1017967

"New Forum Rules!
All existing GFY rules stand in this forum.

Additionally, there will be a few other rules.

1) Stick To Business - This is not a place for fucking around. There is a forum for that, take it there.
2) Trolling - Any and all trolling in this forum will be punished with a ban. No questions asked.
3) Announcements - One time company or program announcement. Spamming this forum will result in a warning, further spamming will result in a ban. If you want to make more than one announcement becoming an advertiser by contacting me eric @T AVN DOT com.
4) Adult Related Items - Adult related items should be posted in the proper forums, posting them here will result in them being moved. Multiple violations of this rule will result in banning. Sigs exempt.

Keep the forum clean and we will all make some money.
__________________
Marketing Mastermind of GFY.com
Advertise on GFY! Email me for Rates: eric AT gfy DOT com or ICQ: 345235540"
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:40 AM   #8
Babaganoosh
♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥
 
Babaganoosh's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: /home
Posts: 15,841
Marion, pointing out that you are a well-known scammer is not trolling. Warning others about your past is, without a doubt, pure business. Don't try to use the rules to hide your shady past.
Babaganoosh is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:52 AM   #9
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by Babaganoosh View Post
Marion, pointing out that you are a well-known scammer is not trolling. Warning others about your past is, without a doubt, pure business. Don't try to use the rules to hide your shady past.

Are you suggesting that there is anything "shady" about this offer?

If so, please post your proof.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1017967

"New Forum Rules!
All existing GFY rules stand in this forum.

Additionally, there will be a few other rules.

1) Stick To Business - This is not a place for fucking around. There is a forum for that, take it there.
2) Trolling - Any and all trolling in this forum will be punished with a ban. No questions asked.
3) Announcements - One time company or program announcement. Spamming this forum will result in a warning, further spamming will result in a ban. If you want to make more than one announcement becoming an advertiser by contacting me eric @T AVN DOT com.
4) Adult Related Items - Adult related items should be posted in the proper forums, posting them here will result in them being moved. Multiple violations of this rule will result in banning. Sigs exempt.

Keep the forum clean and we will all make some money.
__________________
Marketing Mastermind of GFY.com
Advertise on GFY! Email me for Rates: eric AT gfy DOT com or ICQ: 345235540"

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-02-2011 at 10:56 AM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:54 AM   #10
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
Ok, so you are surmising, from the terms of service that Amazon has on their site that this is acceptable.

BUT, you do not actually have, in writing, a statement from Amazon that your plan, as outlined here is acceptable to them.

So, your lead paragraph is a touch misleading I would think.

It might be a good idea to actually run this past Amazon and get such a statement as that would give a high degree of credibility to this.


Good luck, hope it works out for you.

.
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:56 AM   #11
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babaganoosh View Post
Marion, pointing out that you are a well-known scammer is not trolling. Warning others about your past is, without a doubt, pure business. Don't try to use the rules to hide your shady past.

"One Time Special Deal Offer "

.
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:59 AM   #12
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
Ok, so you are surmising, from the terms of service that Amazon has on their site that this is acceptable.

BUT, you do not actually have, in writing, a statement from Amazon that your plan, as outlined here is acceptable to them.

So, your lead paragraph is a touch misleading I would think.

It might be a good idea to actually run this past Amazon and get such a statement as that would give a high degree of credibility to this.


Good luck, hope it works out for you.

.
I am NOT "surmising" a thing and I am quite frankly tired of your harassment.

One does NOT need any sort of SPECIAL PERMISSION from Amazon to sign up as an afilliate if the business entity is located in a state which is not banned, so knock it off with the Red Herring.

Your harrassment is over the line and I am reporting your harassing posts.

"https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1017967

"New Forum Rules!
All existing GFY rules stand in this forum.

Additionally, there will be a few other rules.

1) Stick To Business - This is not a place for fucking around. There is a forum for that, take it there.
2) Trolling - Any and all trolling in this forum will be punished with a ban. No questions asked.
3) Announcements - One time company or program announcement. Spamming this forum will result in a warning, further spamming will result in a ban. If you want to make more than one announcement becoming an advertiser by contacting me eric @T AVN DOT com.
4) Adult Related Items - Adult related items should be posted in the proper forums, posting them here will result in them being moved. Multiple violations of this rule will result in banning. Sigs exempt.

Keep the forum clean and we will all make some money.
__________________
Marketing Mastermind of GFY.com
Advertise on GFY! Email me for Rates: eric AT gfy DOT com or ICQ: 345235540""

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-02-2011 at 11:06 AM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:04 AM   #13
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
sarettah asked what I thought were very valid questions any competent business person would want to know. Then you revert to the whiney, childlike, condescending, cunt of a con you really are.

Go away turd.

.
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:09 AM   #14
Babaganoosh
♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥
 
Babaganoosh's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: /home
Posts: 15,841
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
Are you suggesting that there is anything "shady" about this offer?
I'm not suggesting, I am flat out saying that there is something shady about you. There is proof all over the internet. One just needs to search for "Marion Lynn" scammer and you're busted.
Babaganoosh is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:18 AM   #15
ottopottomouse
She is ugly, bad luck.
 
ottopottomouse's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
ALL business entities acting as Amazon affiliates physically located IN California have been banned
Maybe i'm not understanding it very well but I'm lost as to how this gets around being not physically located in California when nothing physical is outside of California?
__________________
↑ see post ↑
13101
ottopottomouse is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:22 AM   #16
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
Quote:
Originally Posted by ottopottomouse View Post
Maybe i'm not understanding it very well but I'm lost as to how this gets around being not physically located in California when nothing physical is outside of California?
The corporate address would be out of California. It's a technicality. However if you want to set up an out of state corporation no one choses Kansas. Think Delaware, Nevada ......

.
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:52 AM   #17
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
lol. This is not harassment. I have actually been trying to help you out here.

You state that it is acceptable to Amazon. I have read their terms and they do not address corporate entities in any manner. So, you are surmising that when they say "You" in their terms that that may be a normal person "You" or a corporate citizen "You", or either or. But you are surmising or assuming that, if you will.

You could actually ask them and if they said yes, it is acceptable (as I assume they might) then you would have a statement from them that you could back up your statements with.

Simple as that.

As I said earlier. Good luck in your efforts.


.
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 12:00 PM   #18
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
lol. This is not harassment. I have actually been trying to help you out here.

You state that it is acceptable to Amazon. I have read their terms and they do not address corporate entities in any manner. So, you are surmising that when they say "You" in their terms that that may be a normal person "You" or a corporate citizen "You", or either or. But you are surmising or assuming that, if you will.

You could actually ask them and if they said yes, it is acceptable (as I assume they might) then you would have a statement from them that you could back up your statements with.

Simple as that.

As I said earlier. Good luck in your efforts.


.
Your questions are ones I would ask any attorney just to make sure your business is being set up correctly. An attorney would not only expect the questions he would gladly explain the details.

However a con artist can't stand any scrutiny so instead he turns the conversation around and starts to criticize you.

stay away everyone ........

.

Last edited by L-Pink; 07-02-2011 at 12:02 PM..
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 12:15 PM   #19
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
lol. This is not harassment. I have actually been trying to help you out here.

You state that it is acceptable to Amazon. I have read their terms and they do not address corporate entities in any manner. So, you are surmising that when they say "You" in their terms that that may be a normal person "You" or a corporate citizen "You", or either or. But you are surmising or assuming that, if you will.

You could actually ask them and if they said yes, it is acceptable (as I assume they might) then you would have a statement from them that you could back up your statements with.

Simple as that.

As I said earlier. Good luck in your efforts.


.

Yeah, right but rather than waste a lot of time emailing Amazon, I simply signed up with Amazon myself, using my corporate info and my corporate bank account. Following is the text of the email I received from Amazon with private information removed; they will probably not like my website as it has little content but the point is that I was indeed able to sign up as a KANSAS CORPORATION using my CORPORATE BANKING INFORMATION AND EIN!:

"Thank you for applying to the Amazon.com Associates Program, XXXXinc-XX!

Thank you for applying to the Amazon.com Associates Program. You'll receive another email from us officially welcoming you to the Program once we've reviewed your Web site. You have been granted full access to Associates Central--the online resource area for Amazon.com Associates. It provides a complete range of features for exclusive use by our Associates. You may log in to Associates Central 24-hours a day to:

Build new links
Generate online earnings reports
Access our extensive graphics library
Update your account information
Get the latest news about what's new at Amazon.com
Learn how to increase referral fees
Please bookmark this page for future reference.

http://affiliate-program.amazon.com

Thank you for joining the Amazon.com Associates Program. We look forward to working with you!

The Associates Program Staff
Amazon.com Associates Program
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com

P.S. Please note for future reference that your unique Associates ID is XXXinc-XX. You may occasionally need to provide this information to verify your account with us.

If, for some reason, you are unable to access Associates Central at this time you can still create a homepage link by following these directions:

This is your unique Amazon.com Home Page Linking Format:


[url]http://www.amazon.com?_encoding=UTFXXXXX=XXXinc-XX[url]

Here's how the link should look in your HTML document:

(Redacted for privacy reasons)

Shop at Amazon.com!"

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-02-2011 at 12:20 PM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 12:23 PM   #20
L-Pink
working on my tan
 
L-Pink's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Florida/Kentucky
Posts: 39,152
lol .....

.
L-Pink is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 01:00 PM   #21
ottopottomouse
She is ugly, bad luck.
 
ottopottomouse's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
Yeah, right but rather than waste a lot of time emailing Amazon, I simply signed up with Amazon myself, using my corporate info and my corporate bank account. Following is the text of the email I received from Amazon with private information removed; they will probably not like my website as it has little content but the point is that I was indeed able to sign up as a KANSAS CORPORATION using my CORPORATE BANKING INFORMATION AND EIN!:
But you live and work there. How does this relate to someone from another state doing it?
__________________
↑ see post ↑
13101
ottopottomouse is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #22
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by ottopottomouse View Post
But you live and work there. How does this relate to someone from another state doing it?
Good question; well put, concise and nicely asked!

And the aswer is this:

The KANSAS CORPORATION is the business entity registered with Amazon, not the individual WORKING for the coporation. Kansas is NOT a banned state and the corporation "resides" in KANSAS, so Amazon will approve the affiliate signup. It is quite legal for a person in one state to own a corporation in another state.

The affiliate should use a Vumber Number with the appropriate area code for the affiliate signup in cases of corporations I set up, which area codes I will provide to those who purchase my service. Costs a couple of bucks a month and that number is then forwarded to the affiliates home or business number. Amazon can't tell a Vumber Number from an actual hardline number, so no sweat there.

Have the money sent to an online bank located in a state which is NOT banned by Amazon, as there have been some things come up in the last few days indicating that Amazon might not send money to banned states, so rather than risk it, just get a different account in a state which is not banned. Very easy and free to do in most cases.

Need an out-of-banned-state address? I can help you get one and very easy to do but remember, the address of the corporation is ALREADY out-of-banned-state and I will forward mail on request. If mail forwarding gets crazy expensive and I'll hit you up for a few bucks for postage but otherwise free.

Use your own webmail from your own website to use as the signup address as Amazon does not really like free email addresses and you are good to go.

Remember, the business entity which has become an Amazon affiliate is located in KANSAS and it then makes no difference where employees of that corporation live or work, not that I'd make a big deal of it with Amazon but they know it. They really don't want to lose affilaites, they only want to bring the various states in line with the 1992 Supreme Court decision which ruled the whole tax thing unconstitutional. The various states are trying an end run around it but will eventually fail.

The KEY:

The "residence" of the affiliate, which in this case is a KANSAS CORPORATION is in KANSAS, which is NOT a banned state.
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 01:57 PM   #23
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
Good question; well put, concise and nicely asked!

And the aswer is this:

The KANSAS CORPORATION is the business entity registered with Amazon, not the individual WORKING for the coporation. Kansas is NOT a banned state and the corporation "resides" in KANSAS, so Amazon will approve the affiliate signup. It is quite legal for a person in one state to own a corporation in another state.

The affiliate should use a Vumber Number with the appropriate area code for the affiliate signup in cases of corporations I set up, which area codes I will provide to those who purchase my service. Costs a couple of bucks a month and that number is then forwarded to the affiliates home or business number. Amazon can't tell a Vumber Number from an actual hardline number, so no sweat there.

Have the money sent to an online bank located in a state which is NOT banned by Amazon, as there have been some things come up in the last few days indicating that Amazon might not send money to banned states, so rather than risk it, just get a different account in a state which is not banned. Very easy and free to do in most cases.

Need an out-of-banned-state address? I can help you get one and very easy to do but remember, the address of the corporation is ALREADY out-of-banned-state and I will forward mail on request. If mail forwarding gets crazy expensive and I'll hit you up for a few bucks for postage but otherwise free.

Use your own webmail from your own website to use as the signup address as Amazon does not really like free email addresses and you are good to go.

Remember, the business entity which has become an Amazon affiliate is located in KANSAS and it then makes no difference where employees of that corporation live or work, not that I'd make a big deal of it with Amazon but they know it. They really don't want to lose affilaites, they only want to bring the various states in line with the 1992 Supreme Court decision which ruled the whole tax thing unconstitutional. The various states are trying an end run around it but will eventually fail.

The KEY:

The "residence" of the affiliate, which in this case is a KANSAS CORPORATION is in KANSAS, which is NOT a banned state.
By the way, Amazon asked ONLY for the CORPORATE info and NO personal information of any kind; only CORPORATE info other than a contact name for the corporation for which I gave them the name of a guy who works with me. When Amazon asked for a name to use for the name of the account, I gave them the name of the CORPORATION and it was accepted as is shown in the email reproduced in an earlier post.

My plan or "system" works and works well.

Hit me up if I can be of help to you.

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-02-2011 at 01:58 PM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 03:53 PM   #24
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Remember:

1) A Social Security Number (SSN),is not required.

(2) Kansas has no Gross Receipts Tax (GRT). Only profits of the corporation, if any, are taxed.

(3) Kansas requires no state business license unlike other states, which might be quite expensive.

(4) No "DBA" (Doing Business AS) filings are required in Kansas, which can also be expensive.

(5) It is possible to completely control and operate your Kansas Corporation in PRIVACY. Your name does not need to be revealed, especially on publicly accessible documents.

(6) Kansas does not require a Resale(Sales tax)or Wholesale Tax ID number although a registration can be beneficial, when appropriate.

(7) Incorporation in Kansas is inexpensive and One Stop Corporation Shop provides Resident Agent Service as well as a permanent street address for the corporation and additional mailing services when required.

(8) The original Incorporating Director need not continue to hold that position, such that new Directors may be appointed whose names do NOT appear in publicly accessible documents.

(9) Kansas has a VERY low tax structure for corporations, with a rate of * 4% of taxable income, plus surtax of 3.35% of Kansas taxable income in excess of $50,000 for all tax years. Remember; a corporation pays tax ONLY on its profits and any decent corporation will not show a taxable profit for several years, if ever.

(10) Annual renewals for Kansas Corporations are low in cost, allowing you to inexpensively maintain your corporation or many years if you so choose.

(11) Kansas does not require publication of the bylaws of the corporation, thus ensuring yet another level of privacy for those actually operating the corporation.

HIt me up if I can be of help to you.

Thanks for looking!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:32 PM   #25
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
.........my shit site just got ACCEPTED BY AMAZON!

I used my KANSAS CORPORATE INFO and gave Amazon a link to a for shit website and got APPROVED!


"Congratulations, your application to the Amazon.com Associates Program
has been approved.

For future reference, your unique Associates ID ixxxINC-XX.

To get started quickly, visit Associates Central at

http://affiliate-program.amazon.com. You will find a number of useful tools
there including:

Product Links
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...dual/main.html)
- Link directly to a specific product on Amazon using the product image
or text.

Widgets (http://widgets.amazon.com) - Build a Slideshow, My Favorites,
or Wishlist widget to showcase your favorite products on your site.

Omakase
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...ized/main.html)
- Leave it up to us! Omakase links show your site visitors what they're
most likely to buy based on Amazon's unique understanding of your site,
the visitor, and the page itself.

aStore (http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...tore/main.html)
- Build your own online store featuring products from Amazon, and
organize them into your own categories or use Amazon's categories.

Associates Central is also the place to view your online earnings
reports, update your account information, and get the latest Associates
program news. If you have not already provided your payment
information, make sure you do so in the "Account Settings" section of
Associates Central
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...ment-info.html).
We will not be able to pay you until this information is entered.

Your Associates ID plaresinc-20 will be used to track qualifying purchases made
by your site visitors when you link to Amazon. All links and widgets
built using the tools in Associates Central,
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com, will automatically contain your ID,
provided you log in before building them.

Thank you for joining the Amazon.com Associates Program. We look
forward to working with you! Please contact us if you have any questions
or need help getting started (http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/contact).

Sincerely,

The Associates Program Staff Amazon.com Associates Program
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com

Do NOT tell me that my methods do not work!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:39 PM   #26
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
.........my shit site just got ACCEPTED BY AMAZON!

I used my KANSAS CORPORATE INFO and gave Amazon a link to a for shit website and got APPROVED!


"Congratulations, your application to the Amazon.com Associates Program
has been approved.

For future reference, your unique Associates ID ixxxINC-XX.

To get started quickly, visit Associates Central at

http://affiliate-program.amazon.com. You will find a number of useful tools
there including:

Product Links
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...dual/main.html)
- Link directly to a specific product on Amazon using the product image
or text.

Widgets (http://widgets.amazon.com) - Build a Slideshow, My Favorites,
or Wishlist widget to showcase your favorite products on your site.

Omakase
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...ized/main.html)
- Leave it up to us! Omakase links show your site visitors what they're
most likely to buy based on Amazon's unique understanding of your site,
the visitor, and the page itself.

aStore (http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...tore/main.html)
- Build your own online store featuring products from Amazon, and
organize them into your own categories or use Amazon's categories.

Associates Central is also the place to view your online earnings
reports, update your account information, and get the latest Associates
program news. If you have not already provided your payment
information, make sure you do so in the "Account Settings" section of
Associates Central
(http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/...ment-info.html).
We will not be able to pay you until this information is entered.

Your Associates ID plaresinc-20 will be used to track qualifying purchases made
by your site visitors when you link to Amazon. All links and widgets
built using the tools in Associates Central,
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com, will automatically contain your ID,
provided you log in before building them.

Thank you for joining the Amazon.com Associates Program. We look
forward to working with you! Please contact us if you have any questions
or need help getting started (http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/contact).

Sincerely,

The Associates Program Staff Amazon.com Associates Program
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com

Do NOT tell me that my methods do not work!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2011, 01:35 PM   #27
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
Ok, yesterday I asked Amazon myself whether this would be acceptable or not. Btw, I asked this before anyone started saying to send the stuff to Amazon as Spam. When you were dodging the question as to whether you had asked Amazon directly whether it was acceptable or not I decided to ask them myself. So, this was not an attempt to fuck with you or your biz. It was an attempt to get a legitimate answer.


What I posed to them was:

Quote:
Hello, In reference to your recent decisions regarding california associates. Someone is offering them a solution where they can reside in California but incorporate elsewhere. The person offering this states that this is acceptable to Amazon and I would like clarification as to whether that approach is acceptable to you or not before I go any further in setting up an associate account.

Thank you for your prompt response.

Here is the verbiage from his offer:

One Time Special Deal Offer For Banned Amazon Affiliates!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OK, first of all, the solution I am offering to banned Amazon affiliates is completely legal, does NOT involve any sort of tax evasion and is indeed acceptable to Amazon.

Amazon has banned affiliates in several states, most recently, California. Remember this part, the affiliates located in California were the business entities, whether DBAs, individuals or corporations but at any rate, ALL business entities acting as Amazon affiliates physically located IN California have been banned.

There is nothing in the ban which precludes a California resident from owning or operating a business entity located in a DIFFERENT state in which Amazon has not banned affiliates. There is NO law which precludes a California resident from owning or operating a business in another state. Were there such a law, Californians would be prohibited from owning STOCK in out-of-state corporations, which they clearly are not.

The fact that an individual may own or work for an out-of-state entity in no way obligates that business entity for California sales tax. If such were the case, stockholders in GM who reside in California would be liable for sales tax for GM cars sold in Nevada, which they obviously are not.

Remember, it is quite legal for a California resident to own and operate a business located in another state.

Since California residents are not domiciled in Kansas; that is, they live in California, the best way to do business in Kansas is through a Kansas corporation, which has a legal physical address in Kansas and a Registered Agent who is physically located in Kansas and who has a physical mailing address in Kansas and a post office box will not do.

So here is the solution in step-by-step form to the issues facing banned California-based Amazon affiliates:

(1) The banned Amazon affilate purchases a Kansas corporation through my service at a specially discounted rate. The corporation is good for one year, a physical address is provided, Registered Agent service is provided for one year, a mailing address is provided if needed, Articles of Incorporation are provided, a very professionally done up set of Corporate Bylaws are provided and the entire setup is 100% legal and above board. This is the same service that places like Legal Zoom will charge well over $1000.00 for but I am offering a specially discounted price of $249.00 for EXACTLY the same service.

(2) The banned affiliate can then obtain an EIN (Employer Identification Number) for the new corporation or for a small additional charge, I will obtain that number for the affiliate.

(3) The banned affiliate then registers the new KANSAS corporation with Amazon as the affiliate business entity as the KANSAS corporation is NOT located in California and has no business presence there. Merely having an employee in California does NOT automatically create a "business presence" in that state within the meaning of the term because the affilate is working for the KANSAS corporation. The KANSAS corporation should in fact do NO business in the state of California to ensure that no business presence is established, including opening a corporate bank account in California. With Amazon, you do not need a corporate bank account but you should use the corporate EIN when registering with Amazon as there would be no withholding from income to a corporation if the affilate selects "Exempt From Withholding".

(3) As far as getting paid by Amazon, Amazon does not care where it sends the money, so the affiliate can simply open a personal bank account, select "Wire Transfer", which has a $100 minimum payout and a $15 fee and Amazon will ask only for the Name of the bank, the Routing and Account numbers. If the affiliate wants to be paid by check, a corporate bank account could be opened and I would recommend Bank of America for those as they whould not give the affiliate too much trouble as long as the proper documentation is presented. Another way around this is to use the individual's name as the name of the corporation so that there would be even less trouble depositing into a personal account. Up to the affiliate; makes no difference to me.

(4) Neither myself nor the Registered Agent have any interest in the corporation and the Registered Agent only receives mail for the corporation, most of which is junk mail anyway but will forward any official mail to the actual owner of the corporation at no additional charge.

(5) The Amazon Affiliate then earns and prospers in a legal, ethical and moral manner. All is happiness and justice prevails.`

This method is NOT "tax evasion" as a corporation located outside of California would owe NO California tax of any kind anyway without a physical presence in that state and the Kansas corporation will have none. Quite legal and above board.

As a reminder, no Social Security Number, no business license and no additional fees are required in Kansas for me to set up a corporation for banned Amazon affiliates.

If you are concerned about a bank account setup, let me know via Skype and I can help you with some suggestions which would assuage your concerns as there all any number of ways to skin that cat.

I have established a unique email address at which I can be contacted for this service but for initial contact please use SKYPE only; I will not use ICQ:

onestopcorporationshop

I'll be in and out this holiday weekend so if I show as "Online" I am close to the computer. If I show as "Away", I am away but you can still send me messages.

If I can be of help, hit me up and in the meantime, enjoy the weekend!
Here is the reply I received just a little while ago:

Quote:
Hello,

We do appreciate your concerns regarding your business and the advertisement you received. I have passed this information along to the appropriate department for further review.

While we are unable to provide you with specific advice in response to your question. I can tell you, the payee address on your account should reflect your primary residence or your company’s primary place of business. If you update the payee address listed on your account, you may be asked to provide proof of residency for the new address.

If you have further questions, we would suggest that you contact a legal or tax service for information relevant to your specific circumstances.

Thank you for your understanding.
I do not know that that decides anything one way or another. However it does sound like if an established Amazon associate in California switched their address to an address in Kansas then Amazon might start asking questions.

If I receive anything else from them, I will post it here.

Last edited by sarettah; 07-03-2011 at 01:47 PM..
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2011, 01:45 PM   #28
CyberHustler
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,783
CyberHustler is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2011, 03:44 PM   #29
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah View Post
Ok, yesterday I asked Amazon myself whether this would be acceptable or not. Btw, I asked this before anyone started saying to send the stuff to Amazon as Spam. When you were dodging the question as to whether you had asked Amazon directly whether it was acceptable or not I decided to ask them myself. So, this was not an attempt to fuck with you or your biz. It was an attempt to get a legitimate answer.


What I posed to them was:



Here is the reply I received just a little while ago:

"Hello,

We do appreciate your concerns regarding your business and the advertisement you received. I have passed this information along to the appropriate department for further review.

While we are unable to provide you with specific advice in response to your question. I can tell you, the payee address on your account should reflect your primary residence or your company’s primary place of business. If you update the payee address listed on your account, you may be asked to provide proof of residency for the new address.

If you have further questions, we would suggest that you contact a legal or tax service for information relevant to your specific circumstances.

Thank you for your understanding. "



I do not know that that decides anything one way or another. However it does sound like if an established Amazon associate in California switched their address to an address in Kansas then Amazon might start asking questions.

If I receive anything else from them, I will post it here.
Of course you were trying to fuck with me and below you and everyone else will find out why!

Try READING the Amazon response and I QUOTE:

" I can tell you, the payee address on your account should reflect your primary residence or your company’s primary place of business................"

"or your company’s primary place of business................"

"or your company’s primary place of business................"

"or your company’s primary place of business................"

And YOU asked the wrong question because I never wrote one fucking word about CHANGING any info on EXISTING Amazon accounts, nor did I IMPLY that any such BANNED accoutns should be changed.

See, this is the problem with you people; you know fuck all about how to do business!

No wonder Adult is in the shape it is!

I did NOT write ONE GODDAMNED WORD about "CHANGING THE ADDRESS ON AN ACCOUNT!"

NOT ONE!

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Is ENGLISH a second fucking language?

The place of RESIDENCE of a KANSAS CORPORATION is FUCKING KANSAS, YOU DIMWITS!

I told you clueless motherfuckers to open NEW ACCOUNT; GET THAT?

NEW!

FUCKING NEW!

Amazon accounts using KANSAS CORPORATIONS!

What in the ever-loving-Hell is wrong with you that you cannot read a SIMPLE FUCKING SENTENCE AND DERIVE ITS MEANING?

I wrote of OPENING NEW AMAZON ACCOUNTS using KANSAS COPORATIONS!

I wrote of OPENING NEW AMAZON ACCOUNTS using KANSAS COPORATIONS!

I wrote of OPENING NEW AMAZON ACCOUNTS using KANSAS COPORATIONS!

Hav you FUCKING GOT IT NOW?

I even SHOWED YOU HOW IT COULD BE DONE!

I did NOT write ONE FUCKING WORLD ABOUT CHANGING ADDRESSES!

PUT DOWN THE FUCKING PIPE AND STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER BEFORE YOU BREAK THE GODDAMNED INTERNET!

See, the deal is this:

Some of you are so blinded by hatred that your first responses go something like this:

"Sally Rand has posted a business offer!"

"It's fraud!"

"It's a scam!"

"Watch out for Sally Rand!"

Fuck you!

I made a straightforward offer to set up KANSAS CORORATIONS, which ARE ACCEPTED BY AMAZON, so that BANNED AFFILIATES could open NEW AMAZON AFFILIATES, using the KANSAS CORPORATE INFORMATION!

NO SCAM!

NO FRAUD!

NOT "Change the fucking address!"!

I even told you nearly EVERYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO TO ENSURE THAT THE KANSAS CORPORATE AMAZON ACCOUNT WOULD REMAIN SECURE AND I DID IT FOR FREE!

I doubt that the average IQ number of this place would even be close to a number that indicated ROOM TEMPERATURE!

You people out of the wards on PASSES?

Are you people allowed to walk around in public with A FUCKING KEEPER?

Tell, you what.......................................

Go back, get some of the hate that you so LOVE out of your ratbrain skulls and READ what I posted and you just might LEARN SOMETHING!

By the way, there a a couple of smart people on this froum as they have contacted me regarding this issue............................................. ............

If I can be of help to you, hit me up.

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-03-2011 at 03:56 PM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2011, 04:17 PM   #30
sarettah
I'll make you famous
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,941
Dude, chill.

I did not ask them about changing addresses. You can see in my post exactly what I wrote to them.

I tried to make it sound as if I was in the process of establishing an associate account and wanted to know if this method was ok with them.

Quote:
Hello, In reference to your recent decisions regarding california associates. Someone is offering them a solution where they can reside in California but incorporate elsewhere. The person offering this states that this is acceptable to Amazon and I would like clarification as to whether that approach is acceptable to you or not before I go any further in setting up an associate account.

Thank you for your prompt response.
Just where the fuck in there do I indicate that I am an existing affiliate wanting to change an address.


In their answer, they addressed changing the address so when I wrote my conclusion I pointed that out.

But you don't take the time to read through shit. You just go and spout your hatred for anyone who dares to engage you in a conversation.

Now go back and read what I wrote to them and see if I am misrepresenting any damn thing.

Damn.



.

Last edited by sarettah; 07-03-2011 at 04:18 PM..
sarettah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2011, 04:21 PM   #31
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
The primary place of business is where the affiliate conducts business activity NOT the registered location of the company.

An affiliate living and working in New York with a registered company in Costa Rica is deemed to be conducting business in New York and NY laws apply.

Sally Rand aka Marion Lynn aka Nick Danger is a scammer.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 07:16 PM   #32
brentbacardi
Confirmed User
 
brentbacardi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,425
I can't speak towards the credibility/good quality/etc or anything like that of this offer.

The principle behind it seems legit though to open the business entity...

1. I have had a business entity I opened in one state and I then moved to another a few years later. It was still treated as being a resident of the state it was opened and registered in.

2. Its not illegal for "skipping" on taxes as you would still pay California state taxes when you took your "pay check" that you need to report as income in which will get state taxed like fuck... we know they rapin everybody out there.

3. Who cares what amazon thinks? If you fill out the forms truthfully and amazon accepts you and pays you then fuck them... seriously, what can they do? Plus the only reason they cancelled cali affiliates is because the sales tax, which if they don't need to pay it through your out of state corp, why would they care you were back in as an affiliate?
brentbacardi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2011, 07:18 PM   #33
brentbacardi
Confirmed User
 
brentbacardi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedi View Post
Awwww what a cute... WTF!
brentbacardi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2011, 09:42 AM   #34
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:mad

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
The primary place of business is where the affiliate conducts business activity NOT the registered location of the company.

An affiliate living and working in New York with a registered company in Costa Rica is deemed to be conducting business in New York and NY laws apply.

Sally Rand aka Marion Lynn aka Nick Danger is a scammer.
And if you just happen to be using a VPS located in say, Bumfuck Egypt, you could concieveably control it from any of the fifty states or any country on the planet with internet access.

Where would things then reside under such a plan?

Enquiring minds await your reply!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2011, 09:43 AM   #35
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by brentbacardi View Post
I can't speak towards the credibility/good quality/etc or anything like that of this offer.

The principle behind it seems legit though to open the business entity...

1. I have had a business entity I opened in one state and I then moved to another a few years later. It was still treated as being a resident of the state it was opened and registered in.

2. Its not illegal for "skipping" on taxes as you would still pay California state taxes when you took your "pay check" that you need to report as income in which will get state taxed like fuck... we know they rapin everybody out there.

3. Who cares what amazon thinks? If you fill out the forms truthfully and amazon accepts you and pays you then fuck them... seriously, what can they do? Plus the only reason they cancelled cali affiliates is because the sales tax, which if they don't need to pay it through your out of state corp, why would they care you were back in as an affiliate?
OMG!; someone FINALLY got the point! Brentbacardi, you are smarter than maybe 90% of the people around this place!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2011, 04:33 AM   #36
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Bump for a scammer.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2011, 08:15 AM   #37
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
Bump for a scammer.
From The Forum Rules of GFY:

"9. False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with SOLID PROOF. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for IMMEDIATE BANNING."

10. Insinuations Meant to Do Harm Any insinuations made in an attempt to do harm to a person (personal attack) or business, shall be grounds for IMMEDIATE BANNING.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2011, 03:53 PM   #38
brentbacardi
Confirmed User
 
brentbacardi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
OMG!; someone FINALLY got the point! Brentbacardi, you are smarter than maybe 90% of the people around this place!
Yeah but it means nothing coming from a scammer!





NOTE: *** JK, I don't know if you are or not but everyone seems to think so ***
brentbacardi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2011, 08:12 PM   #39
charlie g
Confirmed User
 
charlie g's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Center of the Universe
Posts: 2,758
Hey Mr. Sally. I have an idea. Why dont we start a virtual wallet website like paypal and then steal all the money. We just get some homeless guys to register the company and domains. Let's talk!!!!








/
__________________
AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
-------------------------------
charlie g is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2011, 08:28 PM   #40
PornStarToys
Confirmed User
 
PornStarToys's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: A Whale's Vagina
Posts: 581
Don't forget you still have to pay *$800 california* tax if ur in california. NOT paying it is ILLEGAL, whatever this scammer is telling you.

There's nothing wrong with getting a business in another state, but California still requires you to pay $800/year.
__________________
Porn Star Toys - Sex Toys Molded from Porn Stars!

Sex Toy Craze
PornStarToys is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 06:25 AM   #41
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:tongue

Quote:
Originally Posted by PornStarToys View Post
Don't forget you still have to pay *$800 california* tax if ur in california. NOT paying it is ILLEGAL, whatever this scammer is telling you.

There's nothing wrong with getting a business in another state, but California still requires you to pay $800/year.
(1) NOT a scam.

(2) Of course the California Franchise Tax would apply to such foreign corporations with independent contractors, otherwise known as "affiliates" physically located in California. I never suggested that this tax should be avoided and in fact have repeatedly written that this method is NOT about tax evasion.

Interestingly enough, by your theory this same tax applies to ALL adult companies with affiliates in California and I am *certain* that ALL such adult companies with affiliates in California pay this tax yearly. The tax even applies to corporations located outside of the USA which have affiliates located in California.

Remember, it is the *corporation* which would owe the tax, *NOT* the affilate, so since you've made this excellent point, I'm wondering if corporations which engage in the Adult industry who have affiliates physically located in California will take any sort of action to make certain that the required tax is paid or just drop existing California affiliates and ban future signups from that state?

What a can of worms, especially if the tax people in Califronia start taking a good look around!

http://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/misc/1063.pdf

From he citation:

"Foreign corporations must be “doing business'” in
California in order to be subject to the franchise tax. For
example, foreign corporations that make deliveries of
inventory warehoused in California based on orders
taken by employees or independent contractors in
California are “doing business'” in California. As such,
they are subject to the franchise tax even though they
might not have an office or a regular place of business in
California."

On the other hand, it could probably be successfully argued that the *affiliate* is not engaged in the business of "taking orders" but is instead only doing promotional work and since Amazon has no warehouse in California, the franchise tax may not apply at all.

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-14-2011 at 06:36 AM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 06:38 AM   #42
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Be wary of dealing with Marion Lynn, aka Sally Rand, aka Nick Danger and numerous other online identities.

He is known to take money for services not provided, use the identities of other people to further his scams and to threaten those who take him to task.

Bottom line, Amazon don't care where the company you operate is registered, what matters is your primary place of business.

Unless you plan on relocating to Kansas then a Kansas corporation will not help you, quite simply if you live in California and carry out affiliate related tasks in that state then your primary place of business is California and it does not matter if your corporation is registered in the UK, you will still be caught up by Amazon's rules.

Amazon is killing accounts of affiliates who try and get around their rules, put in place due to legislation related to tax collection in particular jurisdictions.

Sally Rand can not help you circumvent state tax law and any representation by him that he can is fraudulent.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 07:19 AM   #43
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:tongue

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
Be wary of dealing with Marion Lynn, aka Sally Rand, aka Nick Danger and numerous other online identities.

He is known to take money for services not provided, use the identities of other people to further his scams and to threaten those who take him to task.

Bottom line, Amazon don't care where the company you operate is registered, what matters is your primary place of business.

Unless you plan on relocating to Kansas then a Kansas corporation will not help you, quite simply if you live in California and carry out affiliate related tasks in that state then your primary place of business is California and it does not matter if your corporation is registered in the UK, you will still be caught up by Amazon's rules.

Amazon is killing accounts of affiliates who try and get around their rules, put in place due to legislation related to tax collection in particular jurisdictions.

Sally Rand can not help you circumvent state tax law and any representation by him that he can is fraudulent.
Hey, halfwit, where did I EVER write ANYTHING suggesting circumvention of state tax laws?

Nowhere, that's where!

Further the *PRIMARY* PLACE OF BUSINESS of any corporation can be the state in which the corporation is registered OR it could be on the SERVER through which the work is performed!

Kick that football around for a while!

Remember people, the *corporation* is the affiliate registered with Amazon and if the money is sent to a bank account *NOT* located in California, it makes little difference from where the buttons are pushed!

The corporation is being paid, *NOT* the person pushing the buttons and if whatever servers, VPNs or VPSs are not actually located in California, Amazon will not have the SLIGHTEST FUCKING CLUE where employees or contractors of that corporation reside!

I mean what is the worst thing that can happen?

The AMAZON POLICE come out and pick you up and take you to AMAZON JAIL where they WATERBOARD your ass?

Nope.

All they will do and all they can do is ban you but if you are slick, Amazon will never know that a KANSAS CORPORATION may have employees or contractors residing in California.

*NOTHING* illegal here but of course, AdultKing has decided to appoint itself as the Amazon Sherf, so here is a suggested uniform and outfitting for it:



Suggested headware for AdultKing as an AMAZON POLICE:



Suggested outfitting for Sarettah and other AdultKing lapdogs:



And you have failed to provide even the tiniest scrap of documentary evidence which supports your false claims.

Git along there, little doggy!

And remember, a little blackhat goes a long way sometimes!

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-14-2011 at 07:24 AM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 07:44 AM   #44
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post

Further the *PRIMARY* PLACE OF BUSINESS of any corporation can be the state in which the corporation is registered OR it could be on the SERVER through which the work is performed!
Incorrect. As usual Sally Rand you lie.

However you would lie, as if you told the truth your scam would be revealed.

Quite simply, the principal place of business is where the majority of the day to day operations take place regardless of the registered office location and jurisdiction.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 08:18 AM   #45
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:tongue

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
Incorrect. As usual Sally Rand you lie.

However you would lie, as if you told the truth your scam would be revealed.

Quite simply, the principal place of business is where the majority of the day to day operations take place regardless of the registered office location and jurisdiction.
So tell us AdultKing, are you going to start reporting all of the Adult companies which have not paid California franchise tax? Could be a long list you know!

That sort of thing could cause you to lose some of your fan club.
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 08:33 AM   #46
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
So tell us AdultKing, are you going to start reporting all of the Adult companies which have not paid California franchise tax?.
As usual you attempt, without success, to deflect away the fact that you are here trying to scam people.

Unless you can show a qualified legal opinion which goes against all precedent and established law on this matter then you are nothing more than a scammer trying to profit from the misfortune of others.

It is very clear, in law, in almost every jurisdiction, that the prinicipal place of business of a corporation is where it undertakes it's business activities and not the place it is registered.

Amazon are very specific about who qualifies and who does not qualify for the Amazon Associates program.

Notwithstanding the fact that it has been established that you have been bankrupt, that you have taken money for services you have not delivered, that you have a long and chequered history of scamming people, using assumed identities for scamming people and even using the identities of deceased persons to further your scams, the Amazon rules are quite clear and your hairbrained scheme will not change that fact.

Anyone sending you money for anything is going to become a victim, because someway and somehow you will screw them.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 08:39 AM   #47
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:tongue

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
As usual you attempt, without success, to deflect away the fact that you are here trying to scam people.

Unless you can show a qualified legal opinion which goes against all precedent and established law on this matter then you are nothing more than a scammer trying to profit from the misfortune of others.

It is very clear, in law, in almost every jurisdiction, that the prinicipal place of business of a corporation is where it undertakes it's business activities and not the place it is registered.

Amazon are very specific about who qualifies and who does not qualify for the Amazon Associates program.

Notwithstanding the fact that it has been established that you have been bankrupt, that you have taken money for services you have not delivered, that you have a long and chequered history of scamming people, using assumed identities for scamming people and even using the identities of deceased persons to further your scams, the Amazon rules are quite clear and your hairbrained scheme will not change that fact.

Anyone sending you money for anything is going to become a victim, because someway and somehow you will screw them.
And you, My Dear AdultKing have again FAILED to directly answer the question on the table!

ARE YOU GOING TO START REPORTING ADULT COMPANIES WHICH HAVE NOT PAID CALIFORNIA FRANCHISE TAX?

Seems to me that since you are ALL ABOUT making certain that Ceasar is rendered his due that you would be busily reporting away!

Which Adult company will be your first target?

After all, seems to me that what is good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say!
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 09:11 AM   #48
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
And you, My Dear AdultKing have again FAILED to directly answer the question on the table!
You do know you look like a raging lunatic don't you ?

You use all kinds of techniques to try and shift responsibility for your own actions to others.

You are the classic scammer sociopath.

I don't need to report anyone for anything, however as a long standing member of this community I feel it is necessary to warn anyone who may deal with you about who they are really dealing with.

You are a scammer, you have been bankrupt, you have claimed to be female when in reality you are male, you have lied your way all over these forums and left a trail of fraud behind you offline.

Anyone dealing with you will lose their money. You are simply a con man.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 09:19 AM   #49
SallyRand
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In A Galaxie Far, Far Away!
Posts: 3,487
:tongue

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
You do know you look like a raging lunatic don't you ?

You use all kinds of techniques to try and shift responsibility for your own actions to others.

You are the classic scammer sociopath.

I don't need to report anyone for anything, however as a long standing member of this community I feel it is necessary to warn anyone who may deal with you about who they are really dealing with.

You are a scammer, you have been bankrupt, you have claimed to be female when in reality you are male, you have lied your way all over these forums and left a trail of fraud behind you offline.

Anyone dealing with you will lose their money. You are simply a con man.
You've done a good job of showing yourself for what you are and that's OK.

You don't live in the USA, you live in a country populated with descendants of criminals; a country initially used to isolate the criminal detritus of a more advanced nation; a penal colony, criminal behavior probably runs in the blood there, so I suppose you would know, wouldn't you?

Last edited by SallyRand; 07-14-2011 at 09:21 AM..
SallyRand is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 09:24 AM   #50
AdultKing
Raise Your Weapon
 
AdultKing's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Outback Australia
Posts: 15,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by SallyRand View Post
You've done a good job of showing yourself for what you are and that's OK.

You don't live in the USA, you live in a country populated with descendants of criminals; a country initially used to isolate the criminal detritus of a more advanced nation; a penal colony, criminal behavior probably runs in the blood there, so I suppose you would know, wouldn't you?
Funny you mention criminality, tell me, have you ever had a computer seized or been investigated for a computer related crime ?

Think carefully before you answer.
AdultKing is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.