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Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 07:58 AM

I'll be quick with this story.

About a year ago today, I offered to help out this adult model with her website for FREE.
She gave me a direction and within 3 days I had the preview section of her site all worked out and online.

The spec was simple - help her design and build a new site for FREE.

This is the preview I made:

http://www.purephat.net/preview/index.html

http://www.purephat.net/preview/index_b.html

This is her existing site - which she designed and built:

http://sexykrisl.com/

Is it me, or did she make the wrong choice with her current site?

Working with her, really made me think twice about doing anything for FREE. As a developer and designer working at a top agency - I realise that fighting with clients is unavoidable - but it really grates me when someone can't take advice when all the work being done is for FREE.

candyflip · 01-09-2011, 08:01 AM

What she should have done was hire a professional.

~Ray · 01-09-2011, 08:03 AM

they both could use a bit of modernizing.. but for free, yours was ok.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Ray

they both could use a bit of modernizing.. but for free, yours was ok.

Well that's the funny thing, she was determined to have a similar looking site to the one she already had. Some of the design choices were forced onto the design and build.

You can see that my examples have been influenced by her taste.

signupdamnit · 01-09-2011, 08:15 AM

It's her site and her choice. As long as she thanked you for your help and time without leading you on about things I can't see why you would be mad.

dazzling · 01-09-2011, 08:18 AM

That is one ugly looking woman. I cant believe anyone would waste money to join her website to look at her.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

What she should have done was hire a professional.

For 2 hrs a day over 3 days... I don't think I did too bad... considering it was for FREE.
And I am a professional FYI.

I'd love to see what you can to do without even trying buddy ;-)

ottopottomouse · 01-09-2011, 08:22 AM

Site is hopeless.

Click photos / videos / free tour and unless you realise you need to scroll down the page doesn't appear to change.

candyflip · 01-09-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Xer0

For 2 hrs a day over 3 days... I don't think I did too bad... considering it was for FREE.
And I am a professional FYI.

I'd love to see what you can to do without even trying buddy ;-)

So you're saying you were helping, but didn't really try? Ok, buddy.

I stopped doing my own design stuff a few years back and now have 2 people on staff who handle it all for me.

That said, I would still have no problem putting together something that might actually stand a chance of converting surfers in 2010.

Emil · 01-09-2011, 08:24 AM

I think her design looks better than yours, but that's just me.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

It's her site and her choice. As long as she thanked you for your help and time without leading you on about things I can't see why you would be mad.

Right you are.
And this happened a year ago. It was all very friendly.

The previews I made were a compromise for her requirements and taste. It's annoying when you know that the site could have been so much better.

But one positive thing came out of it.
It was just fun doing some porn work - rather than big name brands with a team of 20 or so.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

So you're saying you were helping, but didn't really try? Ok, buddy.

I stopped doing my own design stuff a few years back and now have 2 people on staff who handle it all for me.

That said, I would still have no problem putting together something that might actually stand a chance of converting surfers in 2010.

I don't know about you... At 2 hrs a day for 3 days isn't really working.
Still - would love to see your sites ;-)

I might learn a thing or 2.

Supz · 01-09-2011, 09:04 AM

They both look about a decade old.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz

They both look about a decade old.

Yeah - like your site.

djroof · 01-09-2011, 09:09 AM

the girl is sexy ;) that's all

Jack Sparrow · 01-09-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Xer0

I don't know about you... At 2 hrs a day for 3 days isn't really working.
Still - would love to see your sites ;-)

I might learn a thing or 2.

I dont think anyone knows what sites he is running.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

I dont think anyone knows what sites he is running.

Yeah - looking at the trail of messages he leaves at other topics - he seems to think he's a wise cracking guy ;-)

He just says stuff, for shits and giggles.

Scott McD · 01-09-2011, 09:21 AM

Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Hank_Heartland · 01-09-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Me

Davy · 01-09-2011, 01:09 PM

If I had an insane amount of money, I'd get myself a pink Ferrari. Just because.

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Xer0

As a developer and designer working at a top agency

Sure buddy!

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!

The Admiral · 01-09-2011, 01:14 PM

Some peoples taste is all in their mouth.

spazlabz · 01-09-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Me

+1

djroof · 01-09-2011, 01:52 PM

any info for the girl ;) anyone had tried her program?

loreen · 01-09-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Who else thought this thread was gonna be about Steve Lightspeed ??

Me

But, about the sites, I really like hers better. It's more put together, more "blended".

GatorB · 01-09-2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

They both look about a decade old.

That really doesn't matter. Surfers care about CONTENT. Now that beig said the JOIN link is more obvious to me on the actual site. In the end its about getting the surfer to click JOIN. Now all the pink on the actual site is a bit annoying. Might make me click out of there. The background on Xer0's attempt reminds me of wallpaper at grandmas house. Not an image I want in my mind when I want to whack off. Both could use a bit of improvement

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

That really doesn't matter. Surfers care about CONTENT.

Yes it DOES MATTER. Anyone who says design doesnt matter has 0 clue wtf they are talking about.

GatorB · 01-09-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Yes it DOES MATTER. Anyone who says design doesnt matter has 0 clue wtf they are talking about.

Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

where did i say content doesnt matter? they go hand and hand.

Stupid comment on your part.

You can have a great design with shitty content and still sell it. But then you have to have filler content like text to make up for the difference.

Surfers DO care about design. A proper design can increase conversions by insane amounts. A proper design displays that content in a professional manner that makes it sell.

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 02:27 PM

Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

FlexxAeon · 01-09-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

irwin99 · 01-09-2011, 02:29 PM

were you trying to bang her or something?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-09-2011, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Show me a site that has great design but does not give the surfer what he wants and I show you a site that will not be successful.

show me a site with great design and no content and ill show you a site with no content and bad design that does shittier

design does matter. have 2 of anything and package one in a better design and it will sell better.

actually there are a few instances where this may not be true. if you are selling old fashioned hand made chairs in a new plastic packaging , might be better to have hand labels with no packaging.. or organic foods etc where the goal is less waste

The Heron · 01-09-2011, 02:32 PM

She got big fake tits, of course she has no taste

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-09-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irwin99

were you trying to bang her or something?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-09-2011, 02:35 PM

i like your design better but perhaps she felt her amateur design gave more of an amateur look to the site and thus grab a diff crowd.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Sure buddy!

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!

lol, another wise guy.
Funny, like I said - the 'PREVIEW' took me 6 hours to prepare over 3 days in total.

I'd like to see your shit.

I might learn something... maybe not :P

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by irwin99

were you trying to bang her or something?

Nah - I was just doing it for the hell of it.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Sure buddy!

Keep telling yourself that. Your shit sucks!

lol - How do you know i'm not?
I'd love to know which agencies you've worked for... that's none porn related.

OH... and I wouldn't mind seeing your shit.

BTW - judging by all your other posts in other topics... your a tad immature and seem to suffer from anger issues.
Did your mom get raped by a mad baboon with aids!?

Daddy loves you! :P

GatorB · 01-09-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Especially when accepting credit cards. The internet is pure image and what you see. When they see a professional base surfers are more likely to attach trusting value to the website.

Then when they don't get what they want prompty chargeback their credit card.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-09-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xer0

I'd like to see your shit.

sorry bud, gotta call you on that one.

last chance to regret your request ...

your eyes will burn with envy............

metamans shit is godly

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

sorry bud, gotta call you on that one.

last chance to regret your request ...

your eyes will burn with envy............

metamans shit is godly

ROFL - that was hilarious!

Thanks dude - that made me laugh.

For some reason - GFY is attracting assholes that can't have constructive discussion.

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

metamans shit is godly

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Originally Posted by Xer0

lol - How do you know i'm not?
I'd love to know which agencies you've worked for... that's none porn related.

I know because your design work on this site is low quality. And any "top" design firm would gasp at the look of it. i can tell by your font/lines/shading you dont know what you are doing.

No sorry i dont work for agencies nor do i claim to work for any. you're the one who did.

her newer site IS better.

Honestly you are not a designer. Stop calling yourself one. It makes real designers look bad and gives off the impression anyone can design.

You are an amateur wannabe. do not get it mixed up.

you are the guy who pulls out the acoustic guitar and strums some shitty notes and goes around telling chicks you are a musician. Same thing in this case.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

I know because your design work on this site is low quality. And any "top" design firm would gasp at the look of it. i can tell by your font/lines/shading you dont know what you are doing.

No sorry i dont work for agencies nor do i claim to work for any. you're the one who did.

her newer site IS better.

Honestly you are not a designer. Stop calling yourself one. It makes real designers look bad and gives off the impression anyone can design.

You are an amateur wannabe. do not get it mixed up.

you are the guy who pulls out the acoustic guitar and strums some shitty notes and goes around telling chicks you are a musician. Same thing in this case.

Honestly, you make me laugh.
And actually - I don't think I want to see your shit.

I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Your just immature and it shows because you can't have a constructive discussion.

And for 6hrs putting together that 'unfinished' preview... it's way better than what you can come up with.

Where's your shit dude?
Oh - forget it... I don't want to see it :P

loreen · 01-09-2011, 03:40 PM

Xer0, just accept that there are people who think her site looks better. End of any story

(Just like there are the ones that like yours.)

MetaMan · 01-09-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xer0

Honestly, you make me laugh.
And actually - I don't think I want to see your shit.

I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Your just immature and it shows because you can't have a constructive discussion.

And for 6hrs putting together that 'unfinished' preview... it's way better than what you can come up with.

Where's your shit dude?
Oh - forget it... I don't want to see it :P

I am not laughing. I am being serious.

You are not a designer and you do not work at a top firms. And you are not a professional.

No sorry in 6 hours I can destroy your work. I dont have anything to prove to you. Im not the one going around making claims that are obviously false.

you are an amateur. Just because you probably designed a couple "cool" business cards for your college buddies does not make you a professional.

Please you are not on my level, nor do I expect you to be. But your designs look like you just got out of amateur hour at the local community college.

There is no constructive conversation to be had with people who obviously lie to themselves and others about their skill level.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

I am not laughing. I am being serious.

You are not a designer and you do not work at a top firms. And you are not a professional.

No sorry in 6 hours I can destroy your work. I dont have anything to prove to you. Im not the one going around making claims that are obviously false.

you are an amateur. Just because you probably designed a couple "cool" business cards for your college buddies does not make you a professional.

Please you are not on my level, nor do I expect you to be. But your designs look like you just got out of amateur hour at the local community college.

There is no constructive conversation to be had with people who obviously lie to themselves and others about their skill level.

Keep running your mouth... that's all your good at and trash talking.
Most of your posts in various topics reflect this.

Your very immature.

I guess your very jaded about my place of work.

I totally invite you to come up with something in 6hrs.
Keep running your mouth baboon boy.

I'm totally embarrassed to be a developer if you are Web 2.0 like you claim under your Avatar buddy.
Any good developer will tell you that the fundamental technologies that form web 2.0 have been around for over 5 years.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by loreen

Xer0, just accept that there are people who think her site looks better. End of any story

(Just like there are the ones that like yours.)

Absolutely. but when dicks like Metaman show up running their mouth, with nothing to back it up. Wow... just wow.

candyflip · 01-09-2011, 03:56 PM

Newbs.

PS. It's you're not your.

Xer0 · 01-09-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Newbs.

PS. It's you're not your.

I wasn't aware that this was interview or even an English literature paper I was writing :P

01-09-2011, 07:58 AM	#1
Xer0 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The World Posts: 251	Some people have no taste... I'll be quick with this story. About a year ago today, I offered to help out this adult model with her website for FREE. She gave me a direction and within 3 days I had the preview section of her site all worked out and online. The spec was simple - help her design and build a new site for FREE. This is the preview I made: http://www.purephat.net/preview/index.html http://www.purephat.net/preview/index_b.html This is her existing site - which she designed and built: http://sexykrisl.com/ Is it me, or did she make the wrong choice with her current site? Working with her, really made me think twice about doing anything for FREE. As a developer and designer working at a top agency - I realise that fighting with clients is unavoidable - but it really grates me when someone can't take advice when all the work being done is for FREE. __________________ PurePhat.net - Quality Big Boobs blog. ICQ ~ 583232199 Last edited by Xer0; 01-09-2011 at 08:12 AM..

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