Is it against copyright laws to run song lyrics site ? - GoFuckYourself.com

Code4Fun · 01-27-2011, 11:42 PM

Anybody knows if this true and have there been any legal battles over this issue?

wdsguy · 01-27-2011, 11:51 PM

There is no point to start a new lyrics site now.

Lester Burnham · 01-28-2011, 12:05 AM

Depends on how you use it. It would appear to qualify as a "work of authorship" and thus be entitled to copyright protection. However, you could probably make some "fair use" arguments if you are simply publishing it for non-commercial reasons.

Agent 488 · 01-28-2011, 12:20 AM

nope all good go ahead.

d-null · 01-28-2011, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

Depends on how you use it. It would appear to qualify as a "work of authorship" and thus be entitled to copyright protection. However, you could probably make some "fair use" arguments if you are simply publishing it for non-commercial reasons.

who would build a lyric site for "non-commercial" reasons???

garce · 01-28-2011, 01:23 AM

Way too late.

Socks · 01-28-2011, 01:26 AM

I noticed like 90% of them are scraped or run by the same company too, they have the exact same typos, etc.

epitome · 01-28-2011, 01:26 AM

Almost certain it is illegal as the writer owns the words. No different than a book.

MrGusMuller · 01-28-2011, 01:57 AM

Here in Portugal, assuming my Copyright classes, Yes.
Even sing or play them.
Their rights ends after 70yrs...

CyberDilemma · 01-28-2011, 02:09 AM

You may want to read this article...

http://news.cnet.com/Lyrics-sites-ou...3-6203085.html

If you plan to monetize the the site, then, yes, there are legal ramifications to using other's copyrighted works without their express permission.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-28-2011, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by garce

Way too late.

Never too late to suck easy traffic from the search engines with something like this. A constant supply of new content and searches to compete for. You could easily enough auto-generate a gigantic back library of lyrics, and setup the site to auto-update in the future. You may not ever become the net's biggest and baddest lyrics site, but you can certainly suckle your fair share of music traffic if you're looking to push ringtones or some shit. You don't have to make things hard on yourself with a project like this.

MrGusMuller · 01-28-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

You could easily enough auto-generate a gigantic back library of lyrics, and setup the site to auto-update in the future.

Smart words

. Yes, it can be easily done.
But take care about legal issues.

Hit me if u need someone to make this script for u.
We can talk about it.

Paul Markham · 01-28-2011, 04:31 AM

Ask a lawyer, not the GFY law "experts". LOL

Socks · 01-28-2011, 06:35 AM

Just pour through your local, regional and national case law. Easy stuff.

woj · 01-28-2011, 07:12 AM

probably not legal, but make a fake submit page, put DMCA complaint link on the bottom of every page and you are good to go

that's what tube sites have been doing for years...

CaptainHowdy · 01-28-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

probably not legal, but make a fake submit page, put DMCA complaint link on the bottom of every page and you are good to go

that's what tube sites have been doing for years...

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blackmonsters · 01-28-2011, 09:40 AM

Plain and simple :

No.

Also plain and simple :

You will get away with it.

RycEric · 01-28-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexy Jessica

Anybody knows if this true and have there been any legal battles over this issue?

Seeing you use Karisweets.com content, in your avatar, does it really matter ?

Lester Burnham · 01-28-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

who would build a lyric site for "non-commercial" reasons???

He didn't ask me if it was a good business model lol.

As I said, the only way you can do this is for fair use. However, one could take a "tube" approach, i.e., rely on user submitted lyrics, post a DMCA, and issue take downs to try to avoid liability. I personally think you could still get blasted, as the owner is obviously soliciting copyrightable material, but it is better than nothing.

Also, what constitutes "commercialization" is kinda gray, so one may be able to publish on fair use grounds, find an interesting way to monetize, and argue that the monetization does not rise to the level of commercializing the copyrightable work.

Davy · 01-28-2011, 01:46 PM

It's illegal. But nobody cares.

chaze · 01-28-2011, 04:15 PM

I don't think at all, but just guessing.

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wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	There is no point to start a new lyrics site now.

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Lester Burnham Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: You can take me out the ghetto, but not the ghetto out of me Posts: 540	Depends on how you use it. It would appear to qualify as a "work of authorship" and thus be entitled to copyright protection. However, you could probably make some "fair use" arguments if you are simply publishing it for non-commercial reasons.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	nope all good go ahead.

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garce Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,103	Way too late.

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,478	I noticed like 90% of them are scraped or run by the same company too, they have the exact same typos, etc.

01-28-2011, 01:26 AM	#8
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Almost certain it is illegal as the writer owns the words. No different than a book.

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CyberDilemma Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 41	You may want to read this article... http://news.cnet.com/Lyrics-sites-ou...3-6203085.html If you plan to monetize the the site, then, yes, there are legal ramifications to using other's copyrighted works without their express permission.

01-28-2011, 06:35 AM	#14
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,478	Just pour through your local, regional and national case law. Easy stuff.

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Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	It's illegal. But nobody cares. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

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chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	I don't think at all, but just guessing.