How come there are no hybrid desktop hard drives? - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 03-03-2011, 08:35 AM

Seems like an obvious next step, take 1TB hard drive, tag on 8GB flash memory cache on it (worth $10), price it at $99 and it would sell like hot cakes... There is that seagate momentus xt drive, but since it's a laptop drive both the capacity and performance are crap...

what am I missing? Why aren't there any manufacturers selling hybrid desktop drives?

munki · 03-03-2011, 10:17 AM

Why continue improving platter drives when the full push will be for SSD?

woj · 03-03-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by munki

Why continue improving platter drives when the full push will be for SSD?

1+TB SSD drives at affordable prices are still years away and in some applications platter drives actually outperform SSDs... plus it's not like adding some SSD cache to a platter drive would be some engineering breakthrough, it seems like a trivial task...

munki · 03-03-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

1+TB SSD drives at affordable prices are still years away and in some applications platter drives actually outperform SSDs... plus it's not like adding some SSD cache to a platter drive would be some engineering breakthrough, it seems like a trivial task...

trivial vs profitable... adding a cache to current platters would shy people away from getting "newer, better, faster, bigger breasted" ssd drives.

potter · 03-03-2011, 10:33 AM

yeah, fuck platter drives. SSD or nothing.

react · 03-03-2011, 10:45 AM

Laptops generally cold boot/sleep/wake more than desktops so more benefit to hybrids. And desktops you have space to do separate SSD+storage drives anyway.

.. not to say a hybrid desktop drive wouldn't sell well

bronco67 · 03-03-2011, 10:46 AM

The only thing keeping me from SSD drives are the size. I can't get by unless a drive is at least 1TB. I've got thousands of animation frames to render.

A small SSD for the OS is another story.

chaze · 03-03-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

Seems like an obvious next step, take 1TB hard drive, tag on 8GB flash memory cache on it (worth $10), price it at $99 and it would sell like hot cakes... There is that seagate momentus xt drive, but since it's a laptop drive both the capacity and performance are crap...

what am I missing? Why aren't there any manufacturers selling hybrid desktop drives?

They do but only for laptops, I think in general the size of hard drives will go to 2 1/2 so they are not bothering making them in 3 1/2

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kss98VdhSj0

jigg · 03-03-2011, 11:28 AM

there are hybrid drives, the Momentus XT model from Seagate comes with 4GB of SLC NAND to cache data. But max capacity right now is 500GB from seagate

PStarks · 03-03-2011, 11:30 AM

If you check the news there has been TONS of issues with the hybrid drives crapping out waaaaay too fast. I think they are still tweaking the tech to be 100% honest. SSD is nice, but a total waste on rigs.

munki · 03-03-2011, 11:33 AM

SSDs are nice for sys and core files and apps... but I still find myself relying much more on my raids. Space + speed + constant swapping...

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munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	SSDs are nice for sys and core files and apps... but I still find myself relying much more on my raids. Space + speed + constant swapping... __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde