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Old 03-30-2011, 03:36 PM   #1
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Anonymous Bank Accounts / NEW Payout Solution

Better than Paypal or the former ePassporte!

Send & Receive Money Anonymously. Collect Your Payouts FAST!

Hi, my name is Yitzhal Rosenthal, and I just wanted to let all affiliates and sponsors on GFY know about a new payout solution for adult webmasters.

eNumbered.com helps affiliates earn faster payouts with quicker and more flexible withdrawal options.

eNumbered.com safeguards your wealth from taxes, divorce, civil judgments and more. Protect your assets by using an anonymous numbered bank account.

Why Use eNumbered.com? Here are just a few good reasons:

* Bank Online Anonymously / NO ID REQUIRED
* Avoid Taxes
* Send & Receive Money Anonymously
* Accounts 100% Backed by GOLD
* Fast and Flexible Withdrawal Options
* Instant Account Opening - Business & Personal Accounts
* Buy & Sell Online with Anonymous Digital Cash
* Earn 1.150% Monthly Interest on Savings Deposits
* Earn Income With Our Affiliate Program
* Earn High Interest on Fixed-Term Investments
* Process Payments for High Volume, High Risk Goods
* Send & Receive Affiliate Payouts Instantly

Our services include anonymous bank accounts, anonymous digital cash, affiliate payout solutions, funding and payout solutions for high risk businesses (adult, gambling, pharmacy, etc.), high volume payment processing, anonymous money transfer, e-cash payments, high interest investments, buying & selling of gold online, and much more.

SAFETY FIRST
Client funds are 100% backed by gold and therefore cannot disappear into a mysterious 'e-wallet' as happened with epassporte. Client funds cannot be seized by any third party bank; all funds are backed by physical gold bullion locked in vaults.

FORGET PAYPAL!
eNumbered.com is the best paypal alternative. Unlike Paypal, accounts do not 'freeze up' and we never request verification documents. All countries and all products/services are accepted.

WANT FASTER ACCESS TO YOUR MONEY?
Wire transfers take 2-3 days, and we can ship physical gold bullion via overnight DHL courier. Western Union withdrawals are processed within 24hrs. We also offer instant withdrawal options through multiple e-currencies, such as alertpay, cash-x, paxum and more.

Withdrawal and Deposit options include:

* Wire Transfer (2-3 days)
* Cheque (2-3 days)
* Gold Bullion (2-4 days by overnight courier)
* Credit Card (Instant)
* Cash by Mail (2-3 days)
* Western Union (24hrs)
* Multiple e-Currencies including solidtrustpay, paxum, alertpay, cash-x, moneybookers, and more (Instant-24hrs)

Our bank intends to become a primary adult webmaster payout solution. We are already in negotiations with major adult affiliate programs to offer eNumbered as a payout option. Join eNumbered.com and then ask your affiliate rep to offer eNumbered payouts.

visit eNumbered.com to open an anonymous online bank account right now. It's free and takes about 30 seconds.

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Old 03-30-2011, 03:39 PM   #2
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:40 PM   #3
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I want to believe it's just that easy and awesome, I really want to... but I can't.
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I want to believe it's just that easy and awesome, I really want to... but I can't.

Exactly this.
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Exactly this.
Please, before you criticize, at least make a free account and check out the program. You're not even a client. YR
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eNumbered.com safeguards your wealth from taxes, divorce, civil judgments and more. Protect your assets by using an anonymous numbered bank account.

What The Fuck?
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:48 PM   #7
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Please, before you criticize, at least make a free account and check out the program. You're not even a client. YR
That in itself is a valid point, but trying out your program means letting you handle my money... and that in itself exposes me and my business to a risk.

Let's get some facts straight first.

# Where is the financial institution that is backing this located?
# Are there any insurances except for "100% backed in gold"?
# Where is this gold located exactly?
# Who, in the end, is responsible for all this?
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:51 PM   #8
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Amazing... I bet some idiots will actually ty to use this.
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Also, googling your name and seeing this on the first page doesn't inspire a lot of confidence for the future of your company either:

"Anonymous Bank Accounts for HACKERS!"
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:54 PM   #14
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Hi, my name is Yitzhal Rosenthal...
Under normal circumstances, I would have stopped reading right there.

But something about this tax evasion, money laundering operation has peaked my interest, so I will continue reading.



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eNumbered.com safeguards your wealth from taxes, divorce, civil judgments and more. Protect your assets by using an anonymous numbered bank account.
I like your style. I'm gonna keep reading....



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Why Use eNumbered.com? Here are just a few good reasons:

* Bank Online Anonymously / NO ID REQUIRED
* Avoid Taxes
* Send & Receive Money Anonymously
* Accounts 100% Backed by GOLD
* Fast and Flexible Withdrawal Options
* Instant Account Opening - Business & Personal Accounts
* Buy & Sell Online with Anonymous Digital Cash
* Earn 1.150% Monthly Interest on Savings Deposits
* Earn Income With Our Affiliate Program
* Earn High Interest on Fixed-Term Investments
* Process Payments for High Volume, High Risk Goods
* Send & Receive Affiliate Payouts Instantly

Our services include anonymous bank accounts, anonymous digital cash, affiliate payout solutions, funding and payout solutions for high risk businesses (adult, gambling, pharmacy, etc.), high volume payment processing, anonymous money transfer, e-cash payments, high interest investments, buying & selling of gold online, and much more.

SAFETY FIRST
Client funds are 100% backed by gold and therefore cannot disappear into a mysterious 'e-wallet' as happened with epassporte. Client funds cannot be seized by any third party bank; all funds are backed by physical gold bullion locked in vaults.

FORGET PAYPAL!
eNumbered.com is the best paypal alternative. Unlike Paypal, accounts do not 'freeze up' and we never request verification documents. All countries and all products/services are accepted.

WANT FASTER ACCESS TO YOUR MONEY?
Wire transfers take 2-3 days, and we can ship physical gold bullion via overnight DHL courier. Western Union withdrawals are processed within 24hrs. We also offer instant withdrawal options through multiple e-currencies, such as alertpay, cash-x, paxum and more.

Withdrawal and Deposit options include:

* Wire Transfer (2-3 days)
* Cheque (2-3 days)
* Gold Bullion (2-4 days by overnight courier)
* Credit Card (Instant)
* Cash by Mail (2-3 days)
* Western Union (24hrs)
* Multiple e-Currencies including solidtrustpay, paxum, alertpay, cash-x, moneybookers, and more (Instant-24hrs)

Our bank intends to become a primary adult webmaster payout solution. We are already in negotiations with major adult affiliate programs to offer eNumbered as a payout option. Join eNumbered.com and then ask your affiliate rep to offer eNumbered payouts.

visit eNumbered.com to open an anonymous online bank account right now. It's free and takes about 30 seconds.

Yitzhak Rosenthal
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Just wow.

But OK, I'm going to sign up. Please send my Gold Bullion quickly.
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# Where is the financial institution that is backing this located?
Canada

# Where is this gold located exactly?
Secure vaults in Canada

# Who, in the end, is responsible for all this?[/QUOTE]
eNumbered Holdings INC, a BC Corporation

# Are there any insurances except for "100% backed in gold"?
A very legitimate question which we often receive so I want to take the time to really address your question here. First off, 'guarantees' in the world of banking come with a high price; government intruding into your financial privacy. The only truly 'guaranteed' bank accounts in the world are FDIC insured banks in the USA. If you don't mind the IRS or FinCEN snooping around your financial history, then you should just open an account at a big US bank. Right?

In the world of online banking, there are no iron-clad guarantees. For example, paypal accounts are known to 'freeze up' all the time, and even big e-currency providers like Epassporte can go out of business. Offshore banks are no safer - they can simply disappear, or the government can nationalize the bank and seize all deposits (this has happened more than a few times). What guarantee do you have that Paxum, Payoneer or any other online payment processor won't go out of business? No guarantee at all, but most of you use some sort of online currency solution.

At eNumbered, we have made every possible effort to safeguard your funds and your privacy. Deposits are 100% backed by gold bullion stored in vaults, so even if our correspondent bank somehow shuts down, you will not lose any funds. Since we are based in Canada, it's rather unlikely that the Canadian government will go out of business. If inflation spikes and currencies are deflated, you enjoy protection from the stability of gold. So unlike most banks or e-currencies, your funds are completely secure with eNumbered.

That being said, the only thing guaranteed in life is 'death and taxes'. Wherever you choose to put your money, you're taking some kind of risk - either of the bank or country going out of business, or the government snooping into your private life - or both. We're not going to spend your deposits making $20million movie flops like Chris Mallick did. We believe - both ideologically and financially - in the Gold Standard as applied to banking. Our mission is to protect the financial assets and personal privacy of our clients, and for this service we charge withdrawal fees and make a profit. That's eNumbered.com .. simple but effective.

If you have any more questions, I would be happy to address them.
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So since when is Canada tax free all of the sudden? Are they not interested in where this money is coming from? Do they not have "Know Your Customer" principles which would go against the "anonymous" nature of your business?
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So since when is Canada tax free all of the sudden? Are they not interested in where this money is coming from? Do they not have "Know Your Customer" principles which would go against the "anonymous" nature of your business?
Technically we're a corporation not a bank - therefore, KYC (know your customer) requirements do not apply.
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I mean don't get me wrong, I want this to be true... I want not being forced to set up offshore companies and offshore bank accounts through expensive lawyers and nominee directors to keep everything airtight. I just can't believe this is the solution, I cannot imagine it being that simple.

Also, your site mentions that there is no debit card program yet. What is the ETA on that and which financial institution will back such an operation at this (let alone why on Earth would Mastercard or Visa allow this?).
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I mean don't get me wrong, I want this to be true... I want not being forced to set up offshore companies and offshore bank accounts through expensive lawyers and nominee directors to keep everything airtight. I just can't believe this is the solution, I cannot imagine it being that simple.

Also, your site mentions that there is no debit card program yet. What is the ETA on that and which financial institution will back such an operation at this (let alone why on Earth would Mastercard or Visa allow this?).

ETA on debit cards is 2-4 weeks. We definitely hit a few stumbling blocks offering a debit card solution, but we negotiations with several companies are going well, and we should be able to issue enumbered branded mastercards by the beginning of May
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Did that actually say Avoid Taxes?





















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I'm a a Russian entrepreneur who needs you to wire me all your money on promise of payout. I will probably payout the first couple weeks, but once we reach 6 figures, I'm on an island.. thanks
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unbelievable - and even more unbelievable is they will get customers.

Canada isn't some sleepy island in the Carribean - strict banking laws, every industry is highly regulated. Might get away with this for awhile but it will end badly. Canadian government will turn over any information it can to the IRS and other countries' tax departments.
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unbelievable - and even more unbelievable is they will get customers.

Canada isn't some sleepy island in the Carribean - strict banking laws, every industry is highly regulated. Might get away with this for awhile but it will end badly. Canadian government will turn over any information it can to the IRS and other countries' tax departments.
We don't have any information to turn over - that's the whole point of an anonymous account :-) We don't require your name, address or any personally identifying details. We identify you by your account number only.
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Yup, nothing can go wrong here. I'm moving all my money in to this ASAP.

Gonna tell all my friends too. things are looking up.
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eNumbered Holdings INC, a BC Corporation
Website says: "eNumbered Ltd"

Inc or LTD?
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unbelievable - and even more unbelievable is they will get customers.

Canada isn't some sleepy island in the Carribean - strict banking laws, every industry is highly regulated. Might get away with this for awhile but it will end badly. Canadian government will turn over any information it can to the IRS and other countries' tax departments.
canada revenue are going after online payment type sites like these, epass, paxum, etc. if you are doing big numbers through these services, look out.
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Funny thing is that it really doesn't matter whether it's an anonymous numbered account or not.. As soon as you pull any money out, other than the "cash by mail" option, the account can be tied to you and thus everything can be traced.
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eNumeration, eNumbered, whatever the fuck...

You guys are a few days early, this press release should have gone out on Friday
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Funny thing is that it really doesn't matter whether it's an anonymous numbered account or not.. As soon as you pull any money out, other than the "cash by mail" option, the account can be tied to you and thus everything can be traced.
Absolutely true. Wire transfers do leave a 'paper trail', which is exactly why we offer two fully anonymous withdrawal methods; cash by mail (not recommended due to theft, etc.) and
gold bullion. Withdrawal by gold bars is safe, completely anonymous and fast (DHL Overnight courier anywhere in the world).

Wire transfers can still be very useful for all but the most privacy-conscious clients. For example, by wiring money into your eNumbered account from an 'onshore' bank, and then withdrawing it to an 'offshore bank', you can transfer money around the world with maximum privacy.
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canada revenue are going after online payment type sites like these, epass, paxum, etc. if you are doing big numbers through these services, look out.
Well, good luck to 'canada revenue'. We have multiple backups in place in case we need to move offshore. We're not some fly-by-night operation; we have major institutional financial backers and we plan to be in business for many long years. We're not going anywhere, no matter what the pressure.
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LOL at bragging about blatant tax evasion on public forums while trying to get customers to give you their money.
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Typo on the site apparently. We're INC not LTD
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So if you keep no information on us, say I forgot my account number. How do you look it up? What if I forget my password? Is my money lost? ;)

Do you disable all server logs? Constantly change hosting companys, ip routes, fire employees weekly? How anonymous are we talking here?
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So if you keep no information on us, say I forgot my account number. How do you look it up? What if I forget my password? Is my money lost? ;)

Do you disable all server logs? Constantly change hosting companys, ip routes, fire employees weekly? How anonymous are we talking here?
Of course, we maintain all transactional information related to your account, while you are an active client, so that you can transact business.

We don't require name, address, or other personally identifying information from clients. Therefore, we cannot turn over that kind of information, even if required by court order - because we simply do not have it.

We strongly recommend you keep password, username, account number, pin number, and answers to security questions written down and hidden in a safe place. If you lose all of this info, it will be difficult to access your account. We also recommend you set a callback verification number (prepaid phone if desired) so that we can give you access to your account if for some reason you have lost the login info. Hope this information helps.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:43 PM   #40
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:54 PM   #41
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I'll take 10! ;)

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"Deposits are 100% backed by gold bullion stored in vaults" .... So as your deposits increase so will your gold holdings? And if gold falls you automatically increase your holdings to be at the 100% level?

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"Deposits are 100% backed by gold bullion stored in vaults" .... So as your deposits increase so will your gold holdings? And if gold falls you automatically increase your holdings to be at the 100% level?

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Correct. Depositor funds are always backed 100% by gold. Even if our correspondent bank one day shuts us down, your funds are not at risk - they are stored as physical gold bullion in a secure vault, which cannot be seized.
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Can I use my CCBILL checks to deposit into my account?
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Correct. Depositor funds are always backed 100% by gold. Even if our correspondent bank one day shuts us down, your funds are not at risk - they are stored as physical gold bullion in a secure vault, which cannot be seized.
eNumbered operates on more than just a profit model (of course, we intend to make a profit!). But more than that, we are ideologically inspired by the objectivism of 'Atlas Shrugged' (Ayn Rand) and deeply troubled by the dominance of fractional reserve banking, which is essentially a ponzi scheme. We believe strongly in financial privacy and the gold standard.
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Can I use my CCBILL checks to deposit into my account?
Certainly, we accept checks as deposits. They could take awhile to clear if they're from a US bank - probably 5-10 days.
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Can you put gold bullions in a bag and put it in a trash can in some park in Canada, after you leave I come pick up the money? I want it to be just like in the movies, let me know if it's possible, we can start doing some biz.
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Is Julian Assange is one of your client ?
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