Fallout Shelters?

[digitaldivas]

http://www.terravivos.com

[kane]

On CNN they were talking about that company and another and how they have seen a 2000% sales increase since the disaster in Japan.

[HighlyIntoxicated]

someone needs to set up an affiliate program for fallout shelter construction, gas masks, and iodine tablets.

[digitaldivas]

i think that all of this 2012 stuff is really starting to fuck with people on a subconscious level.

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Originally Posted by kane

On CNN they were talking about that company and another and how they have seen a 2000% sales increase since the disaster in Japan.

Radius Engineering has so many shelter orders from the D.C. area that they no longer have model depictions on their webpage. Something evil this way comes and the elitests are preparing.

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas

i think that all of this 2012 stuff is really starting to fuck with people on a subconscious level.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency just ordered $1 billion of dehydrated food.

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...ehydrated-food

These people you speak of just might be on to something.

[Failed]

I bought a pass into a fall out shelter for my family, and myself, for just under $300. When it's everyone for themselves the day before, my shotgun > your key card.

[oscer]

Yea what happens when all that dehydrated food Expires .... They sell it to pig farmers at 1/4 of the costs ... Also the government gets rid of Expired water in bottles from time to time ... Some good contracts to bid on ...

[just a punk]

Nice business LOL

[DVTimes]

its a great idea.

you can build these for say 300 people, and take orders for 1000000's.

if there is a disaster, no one will be able to sue you.

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

Radius Engineering has so many shelter orders from the D.C. area that they no longer have model depictions on their webpage. Something evil this way comes and the elitests are preparing.

...well thats pretty scary

[MrBottomTooth]

Seems pretty risky to fork out $25000 to be a member when it sounds to me like they haven't even got ONE of them built yet.

[onedree]

1. Water supply.
2. Water supply contamination.
3. Airborne radiation poisoning from nuclear power plants.
4. Radioactive contaminated soil.
5. No electricity.
6. No communications
7. Fallout shelter is your privately owned mausoleum.

Tidal wave? .. Most fallout shelters can only sustain one hundred days under water.
After one hundred days, release the hatch and drown to death or be exposed to radiation poisoning.

December 21, 2012 is predicted to be our execution date.
( Like the prisoners on death row )

Most chose to refer to the Mayan calender as rubbish.. that's fantastic, to each is own.

What scares me is, it's verified by NASA!
Please offer valid facts to outweigh NASA's scientific research.

[theloller]

finally we are going to play Fallout 3 in real world ?

[L-Pink]

Someday soon all that will walk the earth is me, Keith Richards and cockroaches .......


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[Failed]

Fear mongering = sales.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by onedree

What scares me is, it's verified by NASA!
Please offer valid facts to outweigh NASA's scientific research.

whats verified? that nothing will happen? yes...


here's a hint that everyone forgets (because nobody uses history as a tool except me) Nothing happens overnight... If you are on an island in the middle of the ring of fire and susceptible to tsunamis? then of course there is risk with that, but if you are inland? ZERO risk.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Seems pretty risky to fork out $25000 to be a member when it sounds to me like they haven't even got ONE of them built yet.

if an apocalyptic event did ever happen, you would have to be naive to think those people are going to honor the commitment. my guess is people with a setup like that would execute most of the people as they showed up, except for a few they wanted to keep for their own entertainment. they aren't going to waste their valuable food and water supplies on you just because you had a contract with them before the world came to an end. think about it. you funded their survival compound. once the shit goes down, they dont need you anymore.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

if an apocalyptic event did ever happen, you would have to be naive to think those people are going to honor the commitment. my guess is people with a setup like that would execute most of the people as they showed up, except for a few they wanted to keep for their own entertainment. they aren't going to waste their valuable food and water supplies on you just because you had a contract with them before the world came to an end. think about it. you funded their survival compound. once the shit goes down, they dont need you anymore.

What if I'm bringing Hookers and blow

Actually it would be very sad if someone that is in the survival business didn't care about anyone else and only themselves. Chances are they know that the more people saved the better chance mankind has to survive. Not doing so would be the ultimate selfish act and it would be naive to think otherwise.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

The Federal Emergency Management Agency just ordered $1 billion of dehydrated food.

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...ehydrated-food

These people you speak of just might be on to something.

The extent our government goes through to protect us in the event of a disaster must be astronomical.

[onedree]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

whats verified? that nothing will happen? yes...

You could be correct.. but then again, could be a ploy to prevent wide spread panic.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

I do not trust anyone, especially our government.

Deidre

[Tom_PM]

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Failed

Fear mongering = sales.

Not being prepared, just in case = dead / hungry / fucked

[DWB]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

The Federal Emergency Management Agency just ordered $1 billion of dehydrated food.

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exam...ehydrated-food

These people you speak of just might be on to something.

We're going to have serious problems with food in the future. Maybe not next year, but within the next 10 - 20 years. The population is growing at a rate faster than we can feed everyone.

People living in parts of Asia are already seeing issues with rice, palm oil, sugar, and some other items.

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The extent our government goes through to protect us in the event of a disaster must be astronomical.

This is all for the select few. Only the government people are getting this in case shit hits the fan.

[- LOL -]

Originally Posted by DWB

We're going to have serious problems with food in the future. Maybe not next year, but within the next 10 - 20 years. The population is growing at a rate faster than we can feed everyone.

People living in parts of Asia are already seeing issues with rice, palm oil, sugar, and some other items.

Asia is a very bad place to live in. Unstable climate and very dense population.

If you want to survive, move to the midwest / canada.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by onedree

Tidal wave? .. Most fallout shelters can only sustain one hundred days under water.
After one hundred days, release the hatch and drown to death or be exposed to radiation poisoning.

Fortunately water flood is almost impossible here in Moscow (too long away from the seas). As about nuclear strike and other similar disasters, we have very deep network of subways which can be closed hermetically, has a big reserve of water, food etc. And you don't have to pay for it. The nearest shelter is in 5 minutes of quiet walking from the place where I live. Reliable (about 30 meters underground + massive hermetical doors) and free

[DWB]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

Asia is a very bad place to live in. Unstable climate and very dense population.

If you want to survive, move to the midwest / canada.

Yes, Asia is very unstable. However, with shifting weather patterns, I'm not so sure if anyplace is safe from disaster anymore. Everyone is vulnerable, just some places more than others.

You also have to look at disasters in terms of micro-disasters. Say you live in a generally safe zone in North America that gets HAMMERED by a snow storm that knocks out power for 2 weeks. No going out, no getting anything to you. Can you make it through 2 brutally cold weeks? A power grid crash could happen anywhere really, even without snow. It's happened before. Massive earthquakes, floods, terrorist attack, storms... lots of things that can cause problems without even getting into the discussion of food, water and oil.

But the "end of the world" type of disaster that site is selling (the shelter), the only thing that comes to mind is... what if you can't get to it?

It's all great to be prepared to survive like that, but you also have to think, if there is a warning for an even so large you need to get underground (and I doubt there would), there will be CHAOS. Good luck getting to your far away shelter unless you're privileged enough to have your own helicopter or jet. Even then, there could be a no fly zone enforced and you're stuck. Some nut job lets off a suitcase nuke somewhere and watch how fast civilian planes are grounded.

IMHO, unless you live within walking distance to that giant shelter, best to take that money and build your own on your own land and hope to God you're not on vacation on the other side of the world if you ever need it.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by justinsain

What if I'm bringing Hookers and blow

Actually it would be very sad if someone that is in the survival business didn't care about anyone else and only themselves. Chances are they know that the more people saved the better chance mankind has to survive. Not doing so would be the ultimate selfish act and it would be naive to think otherwise.

They will gladly take your hookers and blow, don't worry about that. Once they've taken it from you, you would be just one more person to snort some of their blow and fuck their hookers which is a liability they don't need. Your brain, meet bullet.

I can assure you they are not going to be worried about the longtime survival of the human race. They have 1-2 years of food stocked up, the above ground world has ended, and their 1-2 years of food can last the key people 20-30 years if they don't share it with you. The choice is obvious.

[theloller]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Fortunately water flood is almost impossible here in Moscow (too long away from the seas). As about nuclear strike and other similar disasters, we have very deep network of subways which can be closed hermetically, has a big reserve of water, food etc. And you don't have to pay for it. The nearest shelter is in 5 minutes of quiet walking from the place where I live. Reliable (about 30 meters underground + massive hermetical doors) and free

wtf man, with all those lights, if i sell them on ebay at 5$ each, i could live for almost 235 years. and just for some stairs.
you russian are really rich.
damn.

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Originally Posted by DWB

Yes, Asia is very unstable. However, with shifting weather patterns, I'm not so sure if anyplace is safe from disaster anymore. Everyone is vulnerable, just some places more than others.

You also have to look at disasters in terms of micro-disasters. Say you live in a generally safe zone in North America that gets HAMMERED by a snow storm that knocks out power for 2 weeks. No going out, no getting anything to you. Can you make it through 2 brutally cold weeks? A power grid crash could happen anywhere really, even without snow. It's happened before. Massive earthquakes, floods, terrorist attack, storms... lots of things that can cause problems without even getting into the discussion of food, water and oil.

But the "end of the world" type of disaster that site is selling (the shelter), the only thing that comes to mind is... what if you can't get to it?

It's all great to be prepared to survive like that, but you also have to think, if there is a warning for an even so large you need to get underground (and I doubt there would), there will be CHAOS. Good luck getting to your far away shelter unless you're privileged enough to have your own helicopter or jet. Even then, there could be a no fly zone enforced and you're stuck. Some nut job lets off a suitcase nuke somewhere and watch how fast civilian planes are grounded.

IMHO, unless you live within walking distance to that giant shelter, best to take that money and build your own on your own land and hope to God you're not on vacation on the other side of the world if you ever need it.

got to be prepared. http://www.whenshtf.com/forum.php

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Originally Posted by justinsain

Chances are they know that the more people saved the better chance mankind has to survive.

We have 7 billion people on Earth right now. In order for mankind to survive, this number needs to be reduced substantially.

[just a punk]

Cool joke, but it's not about lights but about the DEEP.

[onedree]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Cool joke, but it's not about lights but about the DEEP.

Hopefully your bunker is further than a 140 meter radius from point of impact.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by onedree

Hopefully your bunker is further than a 140 meter radius from point of impact.

It's under a whole city which area is more than 1100 km.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

They will gladly take your hookers and blow, don't worry about that. Once they've taken it from you, you would be just one more person to snort some of their blow and fuck their hookers which is a liability they don't need. Your brain, meet bullet.

I can assure you they are not going to be worried about the longtime survival of the human race. They have 1-2 years of food stocked up, the above ground world has ended, and their 1-2 years of food can last the key people 20-30 years if they don't share it with you. The choice is obvious.

Have you ever watched a disaster movie or one about survival or something like the TV series LOST or the latest zombie series on amc? I have and I can't recall even one where a character went around killing everyone to hoard supplies. Maybe some crazy dude who lost it and he usually gets his ass shot but the survivors were groups because they knew there was strength in numbers.

Someone would have to be a complete idiot to think they would be better off sitting in their bunker by themselves than with a group of people. At some point they are going to need a doctor or engineer or just another pair of strong hands not to mention companionship to really survive.

Ever watch the movie " Castaway " with Tom Hanks? Why do you think he risked his life to leave an Island that can easily sustain him on a crappy raft. He had every thing he needed to survive but was willing to risk his life for something else. What was that about?

Your line of thinking is really the biggest threat to mankind. We won't last when people take an " every man for themselves " attitude and put it into action.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by justinsain

Have you ever watched a disaster movie or one about survival or something like the TV series LOST or the latest zombie series on amc? I have and I can't recall even one where a character went around killing everyone to hoard supplies. Maybe some crazy dude who lost it and he usually gets his ass shot but the survivors were groups because they knew there was strength in numbers.

Someone would have to be a complete idiot to think they would be better off sitting in their bunker by themselves than with a group of people. At some point they are going to need a doctor or engineer or just another pair of strong hands not to mention companionship to really survive.

Ever watch the movie " Castaway " with Tom Hanks? Why do you think he risked his life to leave an Island that can easily sustain him on a crappy raft. He had every thing he needed to survive but was willing to risk his life for something else. What was that about?

Your line of thinking is really the biggest threat to mankind. We won't last when people take an " every man for themselves " attitude and put it into action.

You've watched a few too many movies! Step out of the theater, and back into the real world where every single day is every man for themselves.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Failed

You've watched a few too many movies! Step out of the theater, and back into the real world where every single day is every man for themselves.

I do step out in the real world and it seems to get " every man for themselves " worse every day. The lack of simple consideration and respect astounds me and I don't like the direction we're headed in. That's why I take exception to their post and took the time to point out how it is the ultimate fail.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by justinsain

Have you ever watched a disaster movie or one about survival or something like the TV series LOST or the latest zombie series on amc? I have and I can't recall even one where a character went around killing everyone to hoard supplies. Maybe some crazy dude who lost it and he usually gets his ass shot but the survivors were groups because they knew there was strength in numbers.

Someone would have to be a complete idiot to think they would be better off sitting in their bunker by themselves than with a group of people. At some point they are going to need a doctor or engineer or just another pair of strong hands not to mention companionship to really survive.

Ever watch the movie " Castaway " with Tom Hanks? Why do you think he risked his life to leave an Island that can easily sustain him on a crappy raft. He had every thing he needed to survive but was willing to risk his life for something else. What was that about?

Your line of thinking is really the biggest threat to mankind. We won't last when people take an " every man for themselves " attitude and put it into action.

I hear what you are saying, but when the shit hits the fan, its going to get ugly. I didn't say there would be just one person there that kills everyone else. What if they have 50 people in their inner circle? Is that enough to have companionship, strong hands, fuck, and so forth?

If they have 50 and plenty of food, why let another 500 in? I'm not saying it would be right not to, I'm saying what I think would likely happen.

[moeloubani]

People all over the world will be able to deal with something like this way easier than us Westerners. People around the world are used to harsh conditions, not having water, not having food, being a little dirty and still working together in those tough times.

In the US (maybe in Canada but we are nice so just maybe) you would all just kill each other on day 4 or 5 without food.

[Failed]

Originally Posted by justinsain

I do step out in the real world and it seems to get " every man for themselves " worse every day. The lack of simple consideration and respect astounds me and I don't like the direction we're headed in. That's why I take exception to their post and took the time to point out how it is the ultimate fail.

The only place I ever see this happening, because we can actually watch and see it happen, is in Japan. They are probably as close to a doomsday disaster as any segregated country could be. Their mutual respect is something to be admired. I just don't believe for a second you'll see that here, and for your own sake, don't expect it if a day like we're speaking about would come!

[czarina]

jeeeeeeezuz, that's ridiculous, do people REALLY think the end is coming?

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Originally Posted by justinsain

Have you ever watched a disaster movie or one about survival or something like the TV series LOST or the latest zombie series on amc? I have and I can't recall even one where a character went around killing everyone to hoard supplies.

I guess you missed the Catrina news coverage, where packs of armed negroes roamed the streets, looting everything in sight.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by onedree

You could be correct.. but then again, could be a ploy to prevent wide spread panic.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

I do not trust anyone, especially our government.

Deidre

you don't trust your government but you trust internet doorknobs who are pining for attention and trying to excuse themselves from getting a real job instead?

maybe you should move...

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

I hear what you are saying, but when the shit hits the fan, its going to get ugly. I didn't say there would be just one person there that kills everyone else. What if they have 50 people in their inner circle? Is that enough to have companionship, strong hands, fuck, and so forth?

If they have 50 and plenty of food, why let another 500 in? I'm not saying it would be right not to, I'm saying what I think would likely happen.

Your first post was this which I took to mean they would kill off as many people they made a COMMITMENT to in order to increase their own chances.

Two business men made and stocked a shelter that could sustain 50 people for five years and sold memberships for those 50 spaces which would be adequate. Then when the time comes they would kill off 48 of them to increase their own supply.

I don't see anything in your first post that sounds like they would kill off people due to over crowding.

Originally Posted by PornGreen

if an apocalyptic event did ever happen, you would have to be naive to think those people are going to honor the commitment. my guess is people with a setup like that would execute most of the people as they showed up, except for a few they wanted to keep for their own entertainment. they aren't going to waste their valuable food and water supplies on you just because you had a contract with them before the world came to an end. think about it. you funded their survival compound. once the shit goes down, they don't need you anymore.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

I guess you missed the Catrina news coverage, where packs of armed negroes roamed the streets, looting everything in sight.

I guess you didn't include the rest of my quote which answers your point

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by justinsain

Your first post was this which I took to mean they would kill off as many people they made a COMMITMENT to in order to increase their own chances.

Two business men made and stocked a shelter that could sustain 50 people for five years and sold memberships for those 50 spaces which would be adequate. Then when the time comes they would kill off 48 of them to increase their own supply.

I don't see anything in your first post that sounds like they would kill off people due to over crowding.

lol, sorry i thought you were interested in discussing to topic, not in arguing. my mistake.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by - LOL -

I guess you missed the Catrina news coverage, where packs of armed negroes roamed the streets, looting everything in sight.

i thought it was white police shooting unarmed black people who were only trying to survive

[Failed]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

i thought it was white police shooting unarmed black people who were only trying to survive

At least we can all agree that Brownie did a 'heck of a job'

[digitaldivas]

Originally Posted by czarina

jeeeeeeezuz, that's ridiculous, do people REALLY think the end is coming?

the end will eventually come, how is this ridiculous?!?

Imho, shit that is going on right now on this planet is totally unsustainable.

People are selfish pigs, pretty much, wrapped into what TV tells them to be,
or get depressed when other strangers don't "like" their facebook posts.

I don't think that a "worldwide reality check" would necessarily be a bad thing...

You would have thought that Japan would have woken people up. It has not.