Russell King Out as Chief Operating Officer of ,XXX

[Chris]

source: http://www.thedomains.com/2011/07/13...stry-operator/

We have confirmed that Russel King who had been serving the ICM Registry the operator of the .XXX registry in the capacity of Chief Operating Officer of ICM, is no longer with the company.

It seems that Mr. King was terminated by ICM shortly after the Singapore ICANN meeting which he attended on ICM?s behalf in June.

Mr. King has been with ICM since 2010.

We Met Mr. King at several ICANN meetings and always found him to be smart, well spoken, highly likeable guy and we wish him the best of luck with his future endeavors.

the house of cards falling??

[MaDalton]

there were times where i would have responded with a simple: "See sig!"

[u-Bob]

I want to take advantage of this thread to remind people that I am strongly opposed to the .xxx tld. We don't need it, we don't want it.

[Rochard]

Well we knew this was coming....

[Wizzo]

I would guess it is because after the ICANN meeting which opens the door for 1000s of new TDLs, the dot XXX strangle hold is gone. We will soon enough see dot porn, dot sex, etc... How's the govt or any other person going to tell me I'm not allowed to have porn on a dot porn domain to protect the children...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

We will soon enough see dot porn, dot sex, etc...

I hope so!

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

I would guess it is because after the ICANN meeting which opens the door for 1000s of new TDLs, the dot XXX strangle hold is gone. We will soon enough see dot porn, dot sex, etc... How's the govt or any other person going to tell me I'm not allowed to have porn on a dot porn domain to protect the children...

Interesting observation. I never considered this.

All the time and money spent on .xxx did seem to be with the goal of eventual mandatory use legislation.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Interesting observation. I never considered this.

All the time and money spent on .xxx did seem to be with the goal of eventual mandatory use legislation.

From business stand point, it was a great idea for them right up until ICANN spoiled their party and said anyone with $180k can have a TDL, that must have really stung after the millions were spent...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Interesting observation. I never considered this.

All the time and money spent on .xxx did seem to be with the goal of eventual mandatory use legislation.

Yes, that's why they wanted an stld instead of waiting for a gtld.

Because we managed to delay the approval of their stld for several years and the new gtlds are on the horizon, things are starting to look pretty good for us and pretty bad for the ICM.

[SmokeyTheBear]

if they had been smart and priced .xxx domains at $1 they might have had a few supporters to push their agenda.. THEN partnered with isp's to make .xxx mandatory and cemented a future..

they got greedy.. now they will fail

[KillerK]

Wonder when Joan will get fired.

Also, will the adult community welcome her back?

[TheDoc]

Scandalous....?

[JFK]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

there were times where i would have responded with a simple: "See sig!"

Why change now ??

[Fenris Wolf]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

From business stand point, it was a great idea for them right up until ICANN spoiled their party and said anyone with $180k can have a TDL, that must have really stung after the millions were spent...

Karma is a bitch.

[GetSCORECash]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I want to take advantage of this thread to remind people that I am strongly opposed to the .xxx tld. We don't need it, we don't want it.

What he said times two.

[V_RocKs]

How about .dotdotdot for people that stutter?

[Due]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

From business stand point, it was a great idea for them right up until ICANN spoiled their party and said anyone with $180k can have a TDL, that must have really stung after the millions were spent...

Isn't the 180k per domain? It sounds odd if you can just buy the entire tld that cheap

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Due

Isn't the 180k per domain? It sounds odd if you can just buy the entire tld that cheap

thats the price to control the TLD so they can price their .Whatevers at what they want lol

.xxx spend millions to get

.porn spend 180k to get

[Due]

Originally Posted by Chris

thats the price to control the TLD so they can price their .Whatevers at what they want lol

.xxx spend millions to get

.porn spend 180k to get

Do you need to own the trademark or can you register them as first comes first? (especially if it's not trademarked )

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Due

Do you need to own the trademark or can you register them as first comes first? (especially if it's not trademarked )

im sure you may run into trouble if you try to regsiter .facebook TLD

but im not really sure on how it all works. I figure most of the TLD's registred would be for like big companys like ebay who may want something like motors.ebay and stuff like that

and the ppl that go after say .porn - i doubt they will have a trademark issue as i dont think "porn" is trademarked? I could be wrong but i dont think you can trademark such broad words like that

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Chris

thats the price to control the TLD so they can price their .Whatevers at what they want lol

.xxx spend millions to get

.porn spend 180k to get

It's not quite that simple, unfortunately.

$185k is just the application fee. You pay that for the right to be considered as an operator of the new gTLD that you propose. Paying that fee is the first step, but it's far from being the last one, or the only one, required in order to get set up as a gTLD operator.

Once you've applied for a new gTLD, there are challenge mechanisms in place that can be used by relevant stakeholders and/or rights-holders, the GAC, operators of existing TLDs that your newly proposed gTLD arguably competes with (in the case porn-related gTLDs, this would be where ICM Registry fits in), or even members of the general public.

If your proposed gTLD goes through unchallenged, none of that really matters, of course... but does anybody really believe that .porn or .sex would sail through unchallenged? I sure don't think so. I suspect that any broad-ranging, adult-related gTLD will be challenged by ICM, and by many of the same groups that opposed .XXX, including the GAC, and anti-porn organizations like Morality in Media.

For the sake of argument, though, let's suppose your application for a porn related gTLD goes unchallenged. Even then, you have more fees and logistical challenges ahead of you before you are anywhere close to running a new gTLD.

Even if nobody challenges your application, there is other criteria set by ICANN that you have to meet. (See the gTLD Applicant Guidebook for details on those requirements). If you clear those hurdles, and you application is granted, then you have to pay the quarterly "Registry Fixed Fee" (which is $6250/quarter, so $25k/year) and possibly other fees as well.

The fees themselves do not involve such a huge amount of money that they are beyond the means of a good-sized company (or a wealthy individual, I suppose) to pay in order to establish its own gTLD.... but the fees are just the tip of the iceberg where the costs are concerned. This isn't like tossing up a new domain on your server; you need to have, or acquire in timely fashion, the technical infrastructure necessary to operate the gTLD, as well. I'm sure that could be outsourced to a third party, but not without paying a pretty good chunk of change for their services.

So... it's not as simple as cutting a check to ICANN for $185k one day and rolling out .PinkVisual a few weeks later, I'm afraid. ;-)

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I want to take advantage of this thread to remind people that I am strongly opposed to the .xxx tld. We don't need it, we don't want it.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by KillerK

Wonder when Joan will get fired.

Also, will the adult community welcome her back?

Hopefully soon!

And hopefully she will not be welcomed back with open arms. I think she has shown her true colors and can NOT be trusted.

[selena]

This thread makes me smile.

[F-U-Jimmy]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

I want to take advantage of this thread to remind people that I am strongly opposed to the .xxx tld. We don't need it, we don't want it.

:thum bsup: thumbsup:thumb sup:t humbsup

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Quentin

It's not quite that simple, unfortunately.

$185k is just the application fee. You pay that for the right to be considered as an operator of the new gTLD that you propose. Paying that fee is the first step, but it's far from being the last one, or the only one, required in order to get set up as a gTLD operator.

Once you've applied for a new gTLD, there are challenge mechanisms in place that can be used by relevant stakeholders and/or rights-holders, the GAC, operators of existing TLDs that your newly proposed gTLD arguably competes with (in the case porn-related gTLDs, this would be where ICM Registry fits in), or even members of the general public.

If your proposed gTLD goes through unchallenged, none of that really matters, of course... but does anybody really believe that .porn or .sex would sail through unchallenged? I sure don't think so. I suspect that any broad-ranging, adult-related gTLD will be challenged by ICM, and by many of the same groups that opposed .XXX, including the GAC, and anti-porn organizations like Morality in Media.

For the sake of argument, though, let's suppose your application for a porn related gTLD goes unchallenged. Even then, you have more fees and logistical challenges ahead of you before you are anywhere close to running a new gTLD.

Even if nobody challenges your application, there is other criteria set by ICANN that you have to meet. (See the gTLD Applicant Guidebook for details on those requirements). If you clear those hurdles, and you application is granted, then you have to pay the quarterly "Registry Fixed Fee" (which is $6250/quarter, so $25k/year) and possibly other fees as well.

The fees themselves do not involve such a huge amount of money that they are beyond the means of a good-sized company (or a wealthy individual, I suppose) to pay in order to establish its own gTLD.... but the fees are just the tip of the iceberg where the costs are concerned. This isn't like tossing up a new domain on your server; you need to have, or acquire in timely fashion, the technical infrastructure necessary to operate the gTLD, as well. I'm sure that could be outsourced to a third party, but not without paying a pretty good chunk of change for their services.

So... it's not as simple as cutting a check to ICANN for $185k one day and rolling out .PinkVisual a few weeks later, I'm afraid. ;-)

Wow , thanks for taking the time in writing that up for me. Appreciate it

Still way cheaper than what icm has had to shell out im sure

[JFK]

Originally Posted by selena

This thread makes me smile.

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