Dutch government to ban U.S. providers over Patriot Act concerns - GoFuckYourself.com

u-Bob · 09-21-2011, 02:25 AM

Summary: Though the Netherlands is ?experimenting? with Google Docs and Dropbox, it is ruling out U.S. cloud suppliers from Dutch government contracts, amid Patriot Act concerns.

The Dutch government is to ?basically [...] exclude? U.S. cloud providers from government IT contracts amid concerns of the reach of the Patriot Act in Europe.

To prevent sensitive citizen data from being compromised by U.S. authorities, the move to bar U.S. companies from providing cloud-based services and data processing capabilities is only a temporary measure until the European Commission changes the data protection laws.

Discussed by the European Parliament?s Privacy Platform earlier this month, the Patriot Act is being investigated by European authorities, after Gordon Frazer, managing director of Microsoft UK, exclusively told ZDNet that the Redmond-based company must comply with Patriot Act requests, and other companies with a U.S. presence must do also.

This contravenes European law, which states that organisations cannot pass on user data to a third-party outside the European zone without the users? permission.

In a written answer to a parliamentary question, Dutch minister Ivo Opstelten asserted that, in response to previous questions (Dutch): ?This basically means that companies from the United States in such bids and contracts are excluded.?

Opstelten admitted that while the Dutch government is ?experimenting with Google Docs and Dropbox?, though data is believed to be stored on Dutch territory, it is unknown whether they are managed by U.S. companies.

However, ?taking into account the possible consequences of the application of foreign law?, the minister said that steps would be taken to prevent U.S. cloud service providers or supplier would be ?excluded? from contracts handling government or citizen data.

According to other reports, the government is considering a ban on Microsoft and Google provided cloud offerings, requiring policy to be put forward to determine certain requirements for awarding contracts.

Last month, an article published claimed that the power to search suspects with Patriot Act invoked ?delayed warrants? ? the ability to search without formally making warrants known to the subject, to prevent the loss of vital evidence ? were used in 1,618 drug-related cases, 122 cases for fraud, but only 15 cases relating to terrorism.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/dutch-...concerns/58342

sponsorpimp · 09-21-2011, 02:38 AM

Interesting

BIGTYMER · 09-21-2011, 02:48 AM

Good! Props to the them!

wehateporn · 09-21-2011, 02:51 AM

Danny B · 09-21-2011, 02:53 AM

Nice one Holland!

Emil · 09-21-2011, 03:31 AM

Good to hear!

woj · 09-21-2011, 07:05 AM

google stock price dropped 15% and amazon is down 20% because of this breaking news...
oh wait...

woj · 09-21-2011, 07:07 AM

but really, Patriot Act or not, it seems pretty foolish to store government data in a different country, so really no surprise here...

TheSquealer · 09-21-2011, 07:17 AM

My experience is that other governments frequently make bold proclamations like this because its popular, but behind the scenes, it almost always remains business as usual and very little changes.

sperbonzo · 09-21-2011, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

LOL! Don't worry, now that Obama is in office this kind of thing is going to stop happening right away!

Oh....

wait....

....never mind.

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(P.S. good for Holland! I really hope that they actually do it, and aren't simply putting out some politically correct crap. Hopefully other countries will follow their lead)

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czarina · 09-21-2011, 08:06 AM

good for the Dutch! It was about time someone stood up to that B.S. the patriot act is!

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u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	Dutch government to ban U.S. providers over Patriot Act concerns Summary: Though the Netherlands is ?experimenting? with Google Docs and Dropbox, it is ruling out U.S. cloud suppliers from Dutch government contracts, amid Patriot Act concerns. The Dutch government is to ?basically [...] exclude? U.S. cloud providers from government IT contracts amid concerns of the reach of the Patriot Act in Europe. To prevent sensitive citizen data from being compromised by U.S. authorities, the move to bar U.S. companies from providing cloud-based services and data processing capabilities is only a temporary measure until the European Commission changes the data protection laws. Discussed by the European Parliament?s Privacy Platform earlier this month, the Patriot Act is being investigated by European authorities, after Gordon Frazer, managing director of Microsoft UK, exclusively told ZDNet that the Redmond-based company must comply with Patriot Act requests, and other companies with a U.S. presence must do also. This contravenes European law, which states that organisations cannot pass on user data to a third-party outside the European zone without the users? permission. In a written answer to a parliamentary question, Dutch minister Ivo Opstelten asserted that, in response to previous questions (Dutch): ?This basically means that companies from the United States in such bids and contracts are excluded.? Opstelten admitted that while the Dutch government is ?experimenting with Google Docs and Dropbox?, though data is believed to be stored on Dutch territory, it is unknown whether they are managed by U.S. companies. However, ?taking into account the possible consequences of the application of foreign law?, the minister said that steps would be taken to prevent U.S. cloud service providers or supplier would be ?excluded? from contracts handling government or citizen data. According to other reports, the government is considering a ban on Microsoft and Google provided cloud offerings, requiring policy to be put forward to determine certain requirements for awarding contracts. Last month, an article published claimed that the power to search suspects with Patriot Act invoked ?delayed warrants? ? the ability to search without formally making warrants known to the subject, to prevent the loss of vital evidence ? were used in 1,618 drug-related cases, 122 cases for fraud, but only 15 cases relating to terrorism. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/dutch-...concerns/58342

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