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![]() Here is a Brilliant piece of commentary for both of you. Best 10 minutes you will spend all week. This is NOT saying that Bush was good, quite the contrary, but to those who think that Obama and the OWS movement is "Oh so wonderful", here are some observations of current events...
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I'm not sure why you're linking Obama and the OWS movement, they have nothing to do with one another.
I've seen you in post after post trying to define what the OWS movement is, who the people are, and why the whole thing is bad. I think what you fail to realize is that these are individuals protesting, from all walks of life, for many different reasons. This is not one unit with a single mind and single agenda as the media, and you, try to spin it. Why are you afraid or against people protesting, being Americans? |
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The reason why this is a republic, and not a pure democracy, is to prevent people from voting away the rights of a minority, (no matter how that is defined). The fact that this movement wants the government to interfere and grow it's power on every level of human interaction is quite scary to me. Totalitarianism grows from such movements. That's my personal viewpoint, and debates of our views is what protests are supposed to encourage. . ![]()
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So, why continue to bad mouth the movements? Let them protest whatever the hell they want, we're talking and shedding light on some real issues because of their efforts. This is all good, for everybody. |
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Also, I have watched and read as much as I can from the OWS sources themselves in coming to my conclusions as to their general aims and goals. .
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If these people, and the Tea Party, want to act like nuts, totally their right. But none of them should be surprised when they get called nuts.
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Occupy Wall Street doesn't have one theme or message because it hasn't been organized by one political faction or corporate interest. This is hard for people to accept because they need a simple message to repeat or they really don't know what to think. Unlike the tea party movement there is no clear cut enemy (obama) so it’s easy for anti OWS pundits to make the protest look disorganized and irrelevant.
The best thing for OWS to do is model the tea party and get billionaire backers like the Koch brothers that can buy the movement some much needed media and political capital. However this would go against the principles of the protests. From my own research OWS comes down to this: Corporations like Citigroup, AIG, and others are part of the political thinking that believes the free market should determine regulations, salaries, profits etc. By taking an undisclosed amount of tax payer’s money (Tarp numbers are bullshit) the corporations have broken the free market model themselves and created a socialist corporate environment with a government safety net. So the tax payer has now basically nationalized these corporations, but the corporations still get the benefits of a free market. This is a complex problem that can`t be solved by saying lower taxes! Smaller government! Bomb Iran! Therefore it is not media friendly which makes most Americans afraid. The reason they trust Obama over the republicans is the protests are in New York, an international city with high immigration, strict gun laws, and a diverse population (3 things republicans despise). Also there are a high number of protesters who are under 40 that protested the Iraq war in the crowds, needless to say they were lied to by Bush about Iraq and that will alter their voting habits for at least the next 10 years. That’s my take on this
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By contrast, Failed, did you object to all the mud-slinging going on on this board regarding the tea party protests? There was no substantive debate, simply insults. It seemed like it was the left that had a problem with demonstrations, eh Tony?
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Demonstrations no problem, carrying guns and talking about second amendment solutions I have a problem and people bitching about being taxed too much when this president has lowered their taxes is not honest.
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If only this guy would build a sponsor and shoot content and make hosted galleries
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That may not be carrying guns... but... come on.
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There's a certain type of person who organizes, peacefully protests, and elect politicians who agree with their values and another type of person who camps out for days in their own filth demanding things they refuse to work for.
and then there are the sort of people who think each of these groups are right. one side comes off as more intelligent.
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I didn't say a word about the tea party protests. They have the same right as these protesters. I didn't post propaganda against the tea party protests, nor lump them in with one political figure, nor assume they all have the same mentality. So yeah, between you and I on these issues, there is definitely some contrast. |
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I can point to them while explaining to my children how best to succeed in life and how best to fail.
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Until now I didn't even post in this thread yet, so it's funny I was called out...
but alas, it is true... I need to hire a graphics guy to churn out tools, no doubt. ![]() The Tea Party people are still idiots though. Don't they realize if a Republitard is voted in, they will no longer have a movement? Remember when they were all up-in-arms when the last administration was totally destroying America? No? Me either... |
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OWS = Organized resentment ...
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I know the top 1% seems to rabble like you the same as saying " a million gazillion" but trust me, amongst the intelligent, its really not that hard to achieve. ![]()
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guess adam is no longer silent dancing in gov buildings?
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And the difference in coverage is pretty staggering. The MSM was constantly labeling the Tea Party as racist, from the very beginning, and questioning their grass roots origins, meanwhile I would challenge you to find any kind of hard questions being asked by those networks regarding this movement, or the big labor money involved. Remember CNN reporter Susan Roesgen shouting at the tea party guy carrying his toddler on his hip, about state aid from the feds, then cutting off the broadcast by saying "this is not family viewing"? The Koch Brothers didn't get much bang for their buck, compared to these guys IMO. And BFTK, I was simply responding to Blackmonsters' implication that I post about politics too much. It cracks me up that people call me on that, when you post about 5 political posts every single day, and not a peep! ![]() . . ![]()
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http://mediamatters.org/reports/200904080025 And "liberal media" didnt follow any of it until the police started macing people. Unions are dying you are going to have to come up with a new boogie man they rep less than 12 % of the work force. Yeah they are funding it but no big stages or buses like at the tea party rallies. Hmmm You are too funny |
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...overage/43013/
Media Non-Coverage of Occupy Wall Street Gets Lots of Media Coverage |
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and did you notice that the table show the difference in 9 MONTHS of tea party rally coverage as apposed to ONE WEEK of OWS coverage, and that was after the proests had been going for only two or three weeks? . .
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