As usual, I was right. NASA to become Militarized. - GoFuckYourself.com

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 05:54 PM

Check it out...

MrPopup right on the ball as usual.

Didnt I just predict this a few hours ago?

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=104274

Pathetic really. We're witnessing the end of era of the "exploration" of space as we transition to the "exploitation" and "militarization" of space.

Jeebus help us if theres oil on the moon because I can already sense THE MAN IN THE MOON will be the next dictator that threatens the freedom and democracy of the world.....

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Bush to Propose Budget Increase for NASA
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will propose a nearly $470 million boost in NASA's budget for fiscal 2004, an administration official said on Sunday, promising investigators would look into whether past cutbacks played any part in the space shuttle Columbia disaster.

The disaster has prompted calls for increased spending to upgrade the aging shuttle fleet and develop a new space plane. Columbia broke up over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts aboard, just 16 minutes before it was due to land in Florida.

While NASA's budget has been reduced over the past decade, a senior administration official said Bush would boost funding for the space agency by almost $470 million to $15.47 billion in his fiscal 2004 budget.

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mike503 · 02-02-2003, 05:56 PM

i don't see militarization involved (just based on your post) - i was expecting some sort of national guard type shit involved, like having men with guns guarding the space shuttle would have helped

although i wouldn't put it past bush to nominate that idea...

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by mike503
i don't see militarization involved (just based on your post) - i was expecting some sort of national guard type shit involved, like having men with guns guarding the space shuttle would have helped

although i wouldn't put it past bush to nominate that idea...

Then we could investigate whether any of the astronauts carried tweezers onto their flight or not.

Honeyslut · 02-02-2003, 06:00 PM

astronauts are ex miliatary, silly boy.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Honeyslut
astronauts are ex miliatary, silly boy.

I am merely referring to the "exploration" notion that up-until-now was the front for NASA

gothweb · 02-02-2003, 06:02 PM

I always love comparing posts on here to the articles they are "about". Did you used to do a lot of coke? Just curious?

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:03 PM

Without military involvement the shuttle program would not be where it is today. Probably 90% of the experiments done on the shuttle are military. Who knows what kind of exotic satelite weapons are in orbit right now. Didn't the military confirm that the used a laser to defeat a round from a howitzer or something like that? Whatever they admit to rest assured they have similar weapons that are much more advanced. I would bet money there is a satelite in orbit capable of taking out ground based targets with 100% accuracy. Or at least a satelite that can laser ping targets, with the weapon being dropped by high flying bombers that are well out of range of any SAM systems.

chass · 02-02-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Honeyslut
astronauts are ex miliatary, silly boy.

I beg to differ on ex military being astronauts....there were at least three on the craft that were active military. The others being "civilians".

mike503 · 02-02-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Without military involvement the shuttle program would not be where it is today. Probably 90% of the experiments done on the shuttle are military. Who knows what kind of exotic satelite weapons are in orbit right now. Didn't the military confirm that the used a laser to defeat a round from a howitzer or something like that? Whatever they admit to rest assured they have similar weapons that are much more advanced. I would bet money there is a satelite in orbit capable of taking out ground based targets with 100% accuracy. Or at least a satelite that can laser ping targets, with the weapon being dropped by high flying bombers that are well out of range of any SAM systems.

then why don't we use them in our current "war against terrorism"

02-02-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
I always love comparing posts on here to the articles they are "about". Did you used to do a lot of coke? Just curious?

The best one was "Bush declares America pornography free by 2005." Did you catch that one? I think the article was about abortion.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Without military involvement the shuttle program would not be where it is today. Probably 90% of the experiments done on the shuttle are military. Who knows what kind of exotic satelite weapons are in orbit right now. Didn't the military confirm that the used a laser to defeat a round from a howitzer or something like that? Whatever they admit to rest assured they have similar weapons that are much more advanced. I would bet money there is a satelite in orbit capable of taking out ground based targets with 100% accuracy. Or at least a satelite that can laser ping targets, with the weapon being dropped by high flying bombers that are well out of range of any SAM systems.

I guess your right.

Sheeit. What we DONT know is what is the most frightening.

Going back under my bed to hide while the sky falls ;-)

FATPad · 02-02-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by evildick

The best one was "Bush declares America pornography free by 2005." Did you catch that one? I think the article was about abortion.

HAHA That one made me laugh.

And yea...it was about abortion.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by evildick

The best one was "Bush declares America pornography free by 2005." Did you catch that one? I think the article was about abortion.

I guess your problem is you dont understand irony and sarcasm.

Pornwolf · 02-02-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by mike503

then why don't we use them in our current "war against terrorism"

I've been wondering this for the past 10 years. Why even go to war with troops at this point. It's not necassary. We could terrorize any country into submission with our remote control military utilities so what's the point of sending John Boy and Leroy to the shitty little countries to risk breaking an ankle at $100 a day or more per soldier?

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by mike503

then why don't we use them in our current "war against terrorism"

How do we know they have not been used? Part of warfare over the ages has been nations having bigger balls when threat of war looms, when that nation has new technology or "secret weapons" so to speak. Germany had several new weapons and technologies prior to WWW2. Bush had F117, Stealth bombers and the most advanced smart weapons on the planet. Of course the dog with the biggest weapons has the biggest balls, especailly when the enemy is not aware of them.

Sassyass · 02-02-2003, 06:13 PM

And I'm sure that the Military pays NASA for all those satellites it puts up there, and particle weapons, and what ever else we DON'T know about. NASA IS MILITARY always has been always will be. Its just candy coated. You actually think we would let another country have more control over the space surrounding our planet then us?

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf

I've been wondering this for the past 10 years. Why even go to war with troops at this point. It's not necassary. We could terrorize any country into submission with our remote control military utilities so what's the point of sending John Boy and Leroy to the shitty little countries to risk breaking an ankle at $100 a day or more per soldier?

Because whipping up the masses into a vengeful furor that sparks economic growth is impossible by just pushing a few buttons.

mike503 · 02-02-2003, 06:15 PM

i bet next someone is going to say that the israeli on board was mossad and that this was not an accident... that they were involved with this just like 9/11. i haven't seen any articles yet but i'm sure one is gonna come out.

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by mike503

then why don't we use them in our current "war against terrorism"

Until the Gulf War nobody knew the capability of the F117. It went in kicked ass and took names. Look at how big Bush's balls have been lately. Think there are new weapons that are ready? I think so. Imagine if there is a satelite that can ping targets from orbit. What happened to all the old ICBM launch systems? But a 1000 pound bomb in the warhead, launch them form the US. The satelite pings the target, the rocket releases the smart bomb from 150k feet or so. The smart bomb then just follows the laser ping to the target. The controlers are sitting in a office somewhere in the US. Look at how cheap it would be to make rocket systems that simply take a smart bomb into orbit above a target, drop the bomb, then let this satelite guide it to it's target with the controller at a computer display safely in the US

jimmyf · 02-02-2003, 06:18 PM

The increase in budget for Nasa is not new. That budget has gotten an increase of 600 million the past 2 years if am not mistaken. So your post of 400+ increase would be a budget cut. that's Govt. math.

<IMX> · 02-02-2003, 06:20 PM

Dude military technology was the basis for the space program in the first place.

Great, Bush is throwing more money to his military-industrial complex buddies.

Danny_C · 02-02-2003, 06:23 PM

I'm all for increased budget for NASA. We're going to have to get off this rock sooner or later.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
I'm all for increased budget for NASA. We're going to have to get off this rock sooner or later.

I'm first. We need assholes in space.

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:25 PM

They been using satelite smart bombs since the first Iraq war. I believe the bombs are called JDADs

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:27 PM

Wow...I just found this picture....this is awful...

http://www.khou.com/

gothweb · 02-02-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

I guess your problem is you dont understand irony and sarcasm.

Is it possible that you don't?

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb

Is it possible that you don't?

Nope.

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
They been using satelite smart bombs since the first Iraq war. I believe the bombs are called JDADs

I think those use a different method. They are not as accurate as laser guided but are all weather. Laser guided is not all weather as the operater has to see the target to ping it. Maybe I am wrong but I do not think satelites are involved in the JDAD systems.

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

I think those use a different method. They are not as accurate as laser guided but are all weather. Laser guided is not all weather as the operater has to see the target to ping it. Maybe I am wrong but I do not think satelites are involved in the JDAD systems.

Ah now I remember, JDAD uses the global positioning satelites. Not as accurate as actual pinging of the target. They can miss the target by as much as 50 feet or more. I am refering to a possible satelite system that actually pings the target with a laser beam or something along those lines.

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
Dude military technology was the basis for the space program in the first place.

Great, Bush is throwing more money to his military-industrial complex buddies.

It is a good thing isn't it? I think national defense is one of the most important factors in the United States right now. It would really suck for some small pox infected suicide terroist to attend a major sporting event for example.
Investing in technology such as missile defense is very important being missile guidance technology will become more available to other countries which may be hostile in the future

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by kenny
It would really suck for some small pox infected suicide terroist to attend a major sporting event for example.

Do you have a TimeWarner tattoo?

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Ah now I remember, JDAD uses the global positioning satelites. Not as accurate are actual pinging of the target. I am refering to a possible satelite system that actually pings the target with a laser beam or something along those lines.

They needed to develope a different smart bomb, because the JDADs frequency can be jammed with some kind of device. I remember hearing about it. Prehaps the one you are talking about is the replacement

ChrisH · 02-02-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by mike503
i bet next someone is going to say that the israeli on board was mossad and that this was not an accident... that they were involved with this just like 9/11. i haven't seen any articles yet but i'm sure one is gonna come out.

A picture of massivecock searching google comes to mind. lol

Choker · 02-02-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by kenny

They needed to develope a different smart bomb, because the JDADs frequency can be jammed with some kind of device. I remember hearing about it. Prehaps the one you are talking about is the replacement

LOL, you must watch the discovery channel while you work too. Yes I am saying that if a satelite can ping the target, it can't be jammed. We know cameras on satelites can see very small details. It would not take much to put lasers that ping targets on those same cameras. This would allow operaters to ping the target from anywhere in the world. Then it's only a matter of getting the smart bomb close to the target. Cheap rockets can do this easily. They would only need a cheap simple navigation system to get them close to the target. Think about this, our soldiers could sit at computer consoles in the US and bomb any nation to submission without ever having to leave the US.

ChrisH · 02-02-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Ah now I remember, JDAD uses the global positioning satelites. Not as accurate as actual pinging of the target. They can miss the target by as much as 50 feet or more. I am refering to a possible satelite system that actually pings the target with a laser beam or something along those lines.

Joint
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JDAM

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Do you have a TimeWarner tattoo?

I never thought I would see a jet slam into a tower, but it happened. I dont want to live in a place where people strap bombs to themselves and kill innocent people. I wish it was fiction but that is the unfortunate reality of the world today. National defense is extremely important.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by kenny

I never thought I would see a jet slam into a tower, but it happened. I dont want to live in a place where people strap bombs to themselves and kill innocent people. I wish it was fiction but that is the unfortunate reality of the world today. National defense is extremely important.

Truth is the first casualty of the Security-Industrial Complex

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

LOL, you must watch the discovery channel while you work too. Yes I am saying that if a satelite can ping the target, it can't be jammed. We know cameras on satelites can see very small details. It would not take much to put lasers that ping targets on those same cameras. This would allow operaters to ping the target from anywhere in the world. Then it's only a matter of getting the smart bomb close to the target. Cheap rockets can do this easily. They would only need a cheap simple navigation system to get them close to the target. Think about this, our soldiers could sit at computer consoles in the US and bomb any nation to submission without ever having to leave the US.

Yes the discovery channel, I believe the smart bomb program was followed by the bio/chem protection and alert program.

kenny · 02-02-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Truth is the first casualty of the Security-Industrial Complex

As long as it isnt 1000's of other americans I really dont care

BV · 02-02-2003, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

LOL, you must watch the discovery channel while you work too. Yes I am saying that if a satelite can ping the target, it can't be jammed. We know cameras on satelites can see very small details. It would not take much to put lasers that ping targets on those same cameras. This would allow operaters to ping the target from anywhere in the world. Then it's only a matter of getting the smart bomb close to the target. Cheap rockets can do this easily. They would only need a cheap simple navigation system to get them close to the target. Think about this, our soldiers could sit at computer consoles in the US and bomb any nation to submission without ever having to leave the US.

Maybe you should notify NATO about your idea, maybe they haven't thought of that yet.

MrPopup · 02-02-2003, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by kenny

As long as it isnt 1000's of other americans I really dont care

Whats gonna happen in a war? Casualty Free?

Keep Sucking on That TV Seether.

kenny · 02-02-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

Whats gonna happen in a war? Casualty Free?

Keep Sucking on That TV Seether.

Sadly some brave american lives will be lost in the effort to protect people from future terroist events. The soldiers are prepared to fight get paid to fight. Women and children getting killed in result from a terroist attack is different.

The wealth and strength of this country didnt come from avoiding world affairs.

02-02-2003, 05:54 PM	#1
MrPopup Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: on the internet Posts: 3,783	As usual, I was right. NASA to become Militarized. Check it out... MrPopup right on the ball as usual. Didnt I just predict this a few hours ago? http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=104274 Pathetic really. We're witnessing the end of era of the "exploration" of space as we transition to the "exploitation" and "militarization" of space. Jeebus help us if theres oil on the moon because I can already sense THE MAN IN THE MOON will be the next dictator that threatens the freedom and democracy of the world..... **************************** Bush to Propose Budget Increase for NASA WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will propose a nearly $470 million boost in NASA's budget for fiscal 2004, an administration official said on Sunday, promising investigators would look into whether past cutbacks played any part in the space shuttle Columbia disaster. The disaster has prompted calls for increased spending to upgrade the aging shuttle fleet and develop a new space plane. Columbia broke up over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts aboard, just 16 minutes before it was due to land in Florida. While NASA's budget has been reduced over the past decade, a senior administration official said Bush would boost funding for the space agency by almost $470 million to $15.47 billion in his fiscal 2004 budget. REST http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news...=RTR&c oview= __________________ <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="1" bgcolor="#008000"><tr><td><font size=3>Gone</font></td></tr></table> Last edited by MrPopup; 02-02-2003 at 05:55 PM..

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Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	And I'm sure that the Military pays NASA for all those satellites it puts up there, and particle weapons, and what ever else we DON'T know about. NASA IS MILITARY always has been always will be. Its just candy coated. You actually think we would let another country have more control over the space surrounding our planet then us?

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mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	i bet next someone is going to say that the israeli on board was mossad and that this was not an accident... that they were involved with this just like 9/11. i haven't seen any articles yet but i'm sure one is gonna come out. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

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jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	The increase in budget for Nasa is not new. That budget has gotten an increase of 600 million the past 2 years if am not mistaken. So your post of 400+ increase would be a budget cut. that's Govt. math. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

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