Owned by riot police

[kane]

Just saw this pic of a guy taking some pepper spray right in the face yesterday here in Portland. He couldn't have planned to be in a worse position to get it.

[Lace]

That's a guy?

[_Richard_]

that's a woman

i hope she enjoys the lung issues she's going to have

[kane]

Originally Posted by Lace

That's a guy?

Now that I look closer it might be a woman. I saw him/her get blasted on the news last night and thought it was a guy. When I went to the new station's website I saw the pic. . . but from that angle it does look more like a woman.

[RyuLion]

From the looks of it, it looks like she was used as a human pepper spray shield..

[Phoenix]

i hope that guy was trying to pull her back
anyway, typical fuckin police bullshit..spraying a woman in the face with pepper spray

bullshit

[CyberHustler]

I predict many funny photoshopping experiences...

[porno jew]

yeah hilarious that a chick got pepper sprayed in the face faggot.

why don't you post the other picks of the cops pulling her hair and ganging up on her as well tough guy.

[CDSmith]

My question is what did she do to deserve all she got?


I've found that there's a lot to be said for just going home, but especially so when riot police are around.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

My question is what did she do to deserve all she got?


I've found that there's a lot to be said for just going home, but especially so when riot police are around.

are you kidding?

she's there. that seems to be enough to justify beating and unlawful detention for 48+ hours

[Spunky]

Don't spray me bro

[kane]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

i hope that guy was trying to pull her back
anyway, typical fuckin police bullshit..spraying a woman in the face with pepper spray

bullshit

If I remember correctly he was pulling her back because she was running towards the cops. I'm trying to find the video of it now.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

are you kidding?

she's there. that seems to be enough to justify beating and unlawful detention for 48+ hours

dont protest
report your neighbour

i think some people here are just waiting for a 1800 number to start reporting suspicious behaviour..lol

[VikingMan]

Why does Peter North come to mind?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

dont protest
report your neighbour

i think some people here are just waiting for a 1800 number to start reporting suspicious behaviour..lol

why bother when they have facebook

some dude mixed up in that G20 Toronto was all ired up and making a big stink.. one day this guy is all 'yea gungho, lets go protest some more' blah blah.. one click on his profile shows several people in different police networks across two countries.

his exact words after this was pointed out were: 'police are concerned too'

[kane]

Originally Posted by porno jew

yeah hilarious that a chick got pepper sprayed in the face faggot.

why don't you post the other picks of the cops pulling her hair and ganging up on her as well tough guy.

I found the video. It doesn't say much other than that was a pic snapped of the action and that she was arrested shortly after and should be released soon.

Here is the video. You can see kind of what was going on in the area of where she go sprayed. They talk about here around the 3 minute mark.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/13405...?tab=video&c=y

[kane]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

are you kidding?

she's there. that seems to be enough to justify beating and unlawful detention for 48+ hours

What was happening is that they had been protesting for a handful of hours and were told by the police that so long as they stayed on the sidewalk and didn't block streets so traffic could get through everything was fine. Eventually they decided to block the streets and the police were trying to push them back onto the sidewalk and the confrontation started.

[crockett]

It wont be long and some crack pot will start shooting the cops. That's where this is all leading. The cops can't keep abusing their power with out someone somewhere returning the favor.

[fatfoo]

These police men are a strong force. Pepper spray in the face is unfortunate. It's not clear whether it's a man or a woman. The police sure have a lot of armor, helmets and shields to protect them.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by kane

What was happening is that they had been protesting for a handful of hours and were told by the police that so long as they stayed on the sidewalk and didn't block streets so traffic could get through everything was fine. Eventually they decided to block the streets and the police were trying to push them back onto the sidewalk and the confrontation started.

so the critical mass protests

show me a picture of a woman being sprayed in the face wtih mace

i can show you clips of people driving through other people

but can you show me a clip of CM being prevented to block roads

i'll wait.

[kane]

Holy shit Fatfoo returns!!!!

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by kane

What was happening is that they had been protesting for a handful of hours and were told by the police that so long as they stayed on the sidewalk and didn't block streets so traffic could get through everything was fine. Eventually they decided to block the streets and the police were trying to push them back onto the sidewalk and the confrontation started.

Ah, the plot thickens.

[_Richard_]

fatttfoooooo

[kane]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

so the critical mass protests

show me a picture of a woman being sprayed in the face wtih mace

i can show you clips of people driving through other people

but can you show me a clip of CM being prevented to block roads

i'll wait.

I'm not sure what you are asking for. You want me to show a clip of critical mass being prevented to block roads? what is the critical mass

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

My question is what did she do to deserve all she got?


I've found that there's a lot to be said for just going home, but especially so when riot police are around.

yes as a spineless lickspittle you will find it hard to comprehend these things.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by kane

I'm not sure what you are asking for. You want me to show a clip of critical mass being prevented to block roads? what is the critical mass

it's a protest of bikes.. they ride around several different cites blocking traffic etc

they are allowed to do this

if there is a massive protest across more than one continent. surely you can provide a picture of one of these people getting maced

perhaps even speaking directly to a police officer.

or, if not, what we have here is something kinda special, no?

[kane]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

it's a protest of bikes.. they ride around several different cites blocking traffic etc

they are allowed to do this

if there is a massive protest across more than one continent. surely you can provide a picture of one of these people getting maced

perhaps even speaking directly to a police officer.

or, if not, what we have here is something kinda special, no?

I have no idea who those people are or if they played any role in what has been going on here. I have no idea if any of them have been maced or not. Here is what I know. These people were told that if they stayed on the sidewalk and didn't block traffic everything would be cool and for many hours that is exactly what happened. When they decided to block the streets and push on the police things got heated.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by kane

I have no idea who those people are or if they played any role in what has been going on here. I have no idea if any of them have been maced or not. Here is what I know. These people were told that if they stayed on the sidewalk and didn't block traffic everything would be cool and for many hours that is exactly what happened. When they decided to block the streets and push on the police things got heated.

they haven't played a role

what i am saying is the reason the 'police got heated' is bullshit. there is other protests.. namely one that occurs every month, that SOLELY BLOCKS TRAFFIC

it's the entire point of the protest.

so while they might justify assaulting a woman exercising her constitutional rights, why don't they justify that sort of action every month against a bunch of bikers?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by porno jew

yes as a spineless lickspittle you will find it hard to comprehend these things.

Better to be at home with your feet up and a cold beer watching enlightened anarchists such as yourself taking manblast to the face on the news than actually being the news, I say.

One day hopefully soon you may learn there are priorities in life, then there's just common sense.

[12clicks]

let this be a lesson to all of you children.
don't riot and you won't taste the pepper.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by kane

Holy shit Fatfoo returns!!!!

Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiit !!!

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

One day hopefully soon you may learn there are priorities in life, then there's just common sense.

when your priority is to join the ows movement, you really don't have much common sense to lean on

[kane]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

they haven't played a role

what i am saying is the reason the 'police got heated' is bullshit. there is other protests.. namely one that occurs every month, that SOLELY BLOCKS TRAFFIC

it's the entire point of the protest.

so while they might justify assaulting a woman exercising her constitutional rights, why don't they justify that sort of action every month against a bunch of bikers?

Actually, on that point, yesterday's protests started off with a sit in on a bridge that blocked traffic on it. The police were calm and cool and arrested those who were sitting in and there were no issues.

I think the differences here is that the crowd was pushing on them and were getting pretty riled up. Check out the video I have linked above and you can see people pushing back. To me it is different from just sitting and being peaceful. Just the night before there were some incidents where those in the crowd injured a few cops by throwing bottles at at them.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

let this be a lesson to all of you children.
don't riot and you won't taste the pepper.

If these children's parents would have disciplined them at home at some point during their useless lives we would not have to see them running wild like a pack of dogs on the streets. If that was my kid I would beat some sense into him/her/it.

[Major (Tom)]

stupid hipsters
ds

[Rochard]

Open wide and swallow!

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

are you kidding?

No, Richard, I wasn't kidding. I was asking a key question pertinant to the situation, it's what critical thinkers whose reactions aren't driven solely by their emotions do.

Originally Posted by _Richard_

she's there. that seems to be enough to justify beating and unlawful detention for 48+ hours

Interesting take. Any actual proof to back it up?

While anyone who knows me personally knows I harbor no great love for cops, and that I've never been a cop, I have actually had experience with being on the side of security and having to face down or otherwise deal with a group of agitated people. And those experiences tell me that it's often in the cop's (or security personnel's) best interest to single out the few (or the one) main agitator who is stirring the rest up the most with his or her yappy mouth, aggressive actions, or a combo of both, and neutralize thier foolishness before the situation gets even more out of hand.

I also know that for the most part it's not law enforcement's habit of just smacking people around and macing/tasering them without reason or some sort of provocation. I say "for the most part" because I realize there have been exceptions. But I think it's safe to say that in most cases the cop or cops as it were don't just act without provocation.

So I ask again, what if anything might this person have been doing to get her a faceful of riot cop ownage?

If the actual unequivocal answer is "nothing, she was just there, she was innocent", as unlikely as that would be, then I'm completely with you guys who are leaping to her defense.

However, if it turns out that she was loudly running her mouth, shouting obscenities at the cops, getting in their faces (all of which are things that often stir up mobs and incite escalation) then I'm sorry but it then falls into a "you get what you get" situation. I mean, for example, if there's a pot of boiling water on the stove and you know that if you stick your hand in it you're going to get scalded badly, and you go ahead and stick your hand in there anyway, then of course you get what you get. Here is no different. Everyone with any sense knows that if you disobey riot cops and stir shit up and get in their faces, yell, fire up the mob, maybe throw some stuff at them, etc, that you in all likelyhood are putting yourself at risk for a beatdown, macing, tasering, rubber bullet hits, or worse.

[alias]

[Vendzilla]

I never saw a reason to charge armed men with battons and pepper spray and sheilds without a better game plan than running with my mouth open?

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Crack pot? - It's getting to the point with so much police abuse I highly doubt some lone crazy person is going to do it. More like an average middle class Joe type who's had enough or another who has nothing to lose.

I don't want anyone shot, but if it did happen, it's well overdue. These protests are building momentum, and IMO will be used as the "main" excuse in the near future for a financial collapse.

People need to be more pro-active and start collecting names/information for all those who've supported or enforced the problem. My personal opinion, if you are in any form of government/police and ignore/abuse the constitution. You're the true terrorist and need to be stopped.

WRONG

Police work for the state, city and so on. You expect them to just not do their job and not support their family? BS, you quit doing your job because the bible belt thinks it is wrong..

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

These police men are a strong force. Pepper spray in the face is unfortunate. It's not clear whether it's a man or a woman. The police sure have a lot of armor, helmets and shields to protect them.

Fatfoo ?

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

If that was my kid I would beat some sense into him/her/it.

Until he/she /it either reports you or beats the fuck out of you when they are older and says "remember how you used to beat me daddy its payback time"

[Barry-xlovecam]

When they start arresting their own they have lost ...

Clock's ticking ...

[uno]

Originally Posted by crockett

It wont be long and some crack pot will start shooting the cops. That's where this is all leading. The cops can't keep abusing their power with out someone somewhere returning the favor.

Sorry, been on a big youtube kick lately for some reason.

[ThunderBalls]

[u-Bob]

Using chemical weapons against civilians...

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

i hope that guy was trying to pull her back
anyway, typical fuckin police bullshit..spraying a woman in the face with pepper spray

bullshit

Tell me about it..Fucked up..

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

No, Richard, I wasn't kidding. I was asking a key question pertinant to the situation, it's what critical thinkers whose reactions aren't driven solely by their emotions do.



Interesting take. Any actual proof to back it up?

While anyone who knows me personally knows I harbor no great love for cops, and that I've never been a cop, I have actually had experience with being on the side of security and having to face down or otherwise deal with a group of agitated people. And those experiences tell me that it's often in the cop's (or security personnel's) best interest to single out the few (or the one) main agitator who is stirring the rest up the most with his or her yappy mouth, aggressive actions, or a combo of both, and neutralize thier foolishness before the situation gets even more out of hand.

I also know that for the most part it's not law enforcement's habit of just smacking people around and macing/tasering them without reason or some sort of provocation. I say "for the most part" because I realize there have been exceptions. But I think it's safe to say that in most cases the cop or cops as it were don't just act without provocation.

So I ask again, what if anything might this person have been doing to get her a faceful of riot cop ownage?

If the actual unequivocal answer is "nothing, she was just there, she was innocent", as unlikely as that would be, then I'm completely with you guys who are leaping to her defense.

However, if it turns out that she was loudly running her mouth, shouting obscenities at the cops, getting in their faces (all of which are things that often stir up mobs and incite escalation) then I'm sorry but it then falls into a "you get what you get" situation. I mean, for example, if there's a pot of boiling water on the stove and you know that if you stick your hand in it you're going to get scalded badly, and you go ahead and stick your hand in there anyway, then of course you get what you get. Here is no different. Everyone with any sense knows that if you disobey riot cops and stir shit up and get in their faces, yell, fire up the mob, maybe throw some stuff at them, etc, that you in all likelyhood are putting yourself at risk for a beatdown, macing, tasering, rubber bullet hits, or worse.

speaking of emotions..

the protest in Toronto is all the proof you need. one could say the proof had already been documented for me over a period of a year? how long has it been?

i didn't read the bible, please don't post another

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

When Keith Olbermann asked how she was feeling Ms. Rainey answered, ?I?m feeling great. I am feeling so energized. It?s amazing what a little pepper spray can do for you.? She said that that she has been active in all sorts of movements dating back to the Civil Rights movement, so supporting Occupy was a natural progression.

After describing how she decided to go check out the Occupy action, she raised a great point, ?A lot of my friends were there, and my friends consist of all age groups and all colors. No matter what some of the media might say that they?re rats, and they?re crazy, druggies, etc, that is just not so.?

Ms. Rainey also compared the media situation in the US to what was going on in Nazi Germany when she was growing up, ?I see the same thing happening here. We have really no more free media that will bring you the issues instead of just the soft fluff entertainment. The repeated stuff about some actress somewhere being pregnant and not pregnant, and wanting to go get married and not. This should be on the entertainment pages and not on the mainstream news media.?

She explained why she has shunned retirement and is still actively involved in changing the world at age 84, ?Somebody?s got to keep them awake and let them know what is really going on in this world?I?m an issues person, always have been.?

To his credit, Keith Olbermann let this amazing woman talk virtually uninterrupted for nine minutes. It would be a travesty to define Dorli Rainey by the fact that she is a senior citizen who was pepper sprayed at Occupy Seattle. She is an amazing person, who should be an inspiration to us all. Her story is a great reminder that there are incredible people all across America who we never hear about. They are in our communities fighting to make a difference every single day.

If you have a few minutes, watch the full interview above. I promise, you won?t regret it.

Peace and Love,

ADG

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by kane

Actually, on that point, yesterday's protests started off with a sit in on a bridge that blocked traffic on it. The police were calm and cool and arrested those who were sitting in and there were no issues.

I think the differences here is that the crowd was pushing on them and were getting pretty riled up. Check out the video I have linked above and you can see people pushing back. To me it is different from just sitting and being peaceful. Just the night before there were some incidents where those in the crowd injured a few cops by throwing bottles at at them.

spraying that stuff directly into someones mouth seems rather sinister.

i am almost sure that's not a good idea