met-art and CP

[pornmasta]

I read that in the past it was possible to find underage content on Met-art, i'm curious to know the official version (or your version).

[Fletch XXX]

the word art is used too often to describe things that are far from being considered art. porn is entertainment, no one considers Oprah art. or what tom cruise does, art.

[icymelon]

I think a lot of metarts photography is very artistic

[pornmasta]

it is not a problem of art...
It is not a problem of meth...

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

it is not a problem of art...
It is not a problem of meth...

gotcha my apologies for offtopic comment. just having coffee and was thinking outloud its barely 7 am heheh

[Mutt]

years and years ago, 10 years at least, there were definitely girls on Met-Art's tour that appeared to be underage, Russian photographers/sites have always been known to play games with age documentation, Gallitsin who I think did shoot for Met way back then had his own paysite Gallitsin Archives and was charge and convicted and i believe is still in jail.

Met swept their site clean 10 years ago and no site I know of is more strict about age documentation, they won't even accept sample photos from Met photographers submitting new models for approval without photo ID's to go with the samples.

Met's not even owned by the original owners anymore.

[pornmasta]

Galitsin's Angels: From Russia with Love ?

[myjah]

Met-Art is on the up-and-up. The models are of legal age.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by myjah

Met-Art is on the up-and-up. The models are of legal age.

Well, yes i think so, they have a californian custodian of record.



read this page:

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/An...to_child_porn/

feel free to add your comments on this link.

[JayS]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

Galitsin's Angels: From Russia with Love ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Galitsin

[just a punk]

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn

Edit: sorry, just noticed this link was already posted above. However it answers to the OP's question in full. IMHO.

[EukerVoorn]

Traci Lords.

[helterskelter808]

Pretty sure they used to do pics of kids, like ALS, in the 90s, which either they spammed to Usenet groups, or other people did.

[L-Pink]

There was a very famous european photographer who's name escapes me that had beautiful artistic photos with underage girls.

edit; the guy made coffee table photo books.

edit 2; David Hamilton

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[Roald]

Some old timers on GFY even were into this "art" shit.

[TLE]

I can assure you. MetArt is fully and completely legal. As mentioned above there is very rigorous systems in place to be sure.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Roald

Some old timers on GFY even were into this "art" shit.

That fucks me off too. "Art". Fuck off.

If you (not you, Roald) are into pics of nudie kids, at least have the balls to it's because it gives you a boner; not because you want to hang it on a wall.

As for "[yeah we did it] but we're very against it now". Oh, that's okay then, right? And nothing at all to do with laws and regulations. Some people would try and make a cent from anything if they could get away with it.

[nikki99]

meth art

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Pretty sure they used to do pics of kids, like ALS, in the 90s, which either they spammed to Usenet groups, or other people did.

How do you know that???

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Traci Lords.

And some old charlie laine spanking stuff ? (not sure)

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by cordoba

How do you know that???

Because I used to read Usenet in the 90s (and 2000s for that matter).

Usenet was the home of free porn before anyone had even dreamed of selling it online. It's where millionaire webmasters of 2011 used to steal porn from and sell it in the 90s, before they got rich enough to make their own and issue DMCAs, after suddenly deciding for some unknown reason that theft of porn was wrong.

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Because I used to read Usenet in the 90s (and 2000s for that matter).

Usenet was the home of free porn before anyone had even dreamed of selling it online. It's where millionaire webmasters of 2011 used to steal porn from and sell it in the 90s, before they got rich enough to make their own and issue DMCAs, after suddenly deciding for some unknown reason that theft of porn was wrong.

Yea, but I doubt if child pornographers were spamming the MILF usenet groups...

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by cordoba

Yea, but I doubt if child pornographers were spamming the MILF usenet groups...

Where do child pornographers spam then, in your experience?

[cordoba]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Where do child pornographers spam then, in your experience?

I wouldn't know from direct experience, and I've never subscribed to usenet, but everyone here knows that niche porn gets spammed primarily in forums/groups where members are searching for that niche.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by cordoba

I wouldn't know from direct experience, and I've never subscribed to usenet

Which explains why you don't have a clue how Usenet works or what is.

but everyone here knows that niche porn get's spammed primarily in forums/groups where members are searching for that niche.

You seem to be taking a while to get your point.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

And some old charlie laine spanking stuff ? (not sure)

charlie laine was underage when she got into porn?

where did u read/hear that?

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Mutt

charlie laine was underage when she got into porn?

where did u read/hear that?

I think it was her.
I think it was on wikipedia.
A girl like her in spanking.

[Bladewire]

Grigori Galitsin posted some pretty interesting docs on his Picasa web album last March and his blog shows life is good

[pornmasta]

I think that russian is probably as useful as english in this business ;)

[pornmasta]

http://www.galitsin-news.com/

[cordoba]

[QUOTE=helterskelter808;18608413]Which explains why you don't have a clue how Usenet works or what is.
/QUOTE]

That's right, I avoid visiting sites or forums on the internet which are notorious for having child porn posted on them.

You seem to be taking a while to get your point.

The point is - we're talking about (I assume, in relation to met-art) naked pictures of 16 and 17 year old 'kiddies' when it was legal back then in most places in Europe.

O.K., I can see how somebody whose very religious, or otherwise puritanical could get on their high horse about it and think that anyone who involved themselves with that even when it was legal are going to burn in hell.

I really can't see how people like the majority of us here, who make money out of hardcore porn featuring girls primarily 18 - 21, could see it as much of an issue at all, to be honest.

And, yea, it is a bit weird that you need to make a point of declaring such firm views and lecturing others when you admit to frequenting groups in which such child porn was regularly posted. In most countries viewing child porn is illegal, and going back to forums or groups in which it is regularly posted or 'spammed' wouldn't even begin to count as any excuse in a court of law.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by cordoba

That's right, I avoid visiting sites or forums on the internet which are notorious for having child porn posted on them.

Why are you making such a show of denying something that nobody has even accused you of?

I really can't see how people like the majority of us here, who make money out of hardcore porn featuring girls primarily 18 - 21, could see it as much of an issue at all, to be honest.

Earlier you were speaking on behalf of everyone here, now it's most people here. Can you give a list of, say, 25 people who agree with you that images of naked underage girls are not much of an issue at all?

And, yea, it is a bit weird that you need to make a point of declaring such firm views

Please quote which "firm views" of mine you think are weird, exactly.

and lecturing others

Who have I lectured, exactly?

when you admit to frequenting groups in which such child porn was regularly posted.

I really don't want to see anyone banned, but since you're simply flat out lying now, and making serious false accusations, I'll give you a chance to either back up that lie with a quote from me saying anything even remotely like 'I frequent groups where CP was regularly posted', or you can retract it and admit you're a liar who is remarkably upset at things I said that nobody else seems to have a problem with.

In most countries viewing child porn is illegal, and going back to forums or groups in which it is regularly posted or 'spammed' wouldn't even begin to count as any excuse in a court of law.

If you read the thread, fuckwit, you'll see not only did I not say anywhere that I read forums or groups where CP is posted (regularly or not), the first person (between the two of us) to specifically refer to CP was you, and the only reason I mentioned it was in reply to you.

Once you've read the thread again and realized what thin ice you're on, I'd advise you to make your apology.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

There was a very famous european photographer who's name escapes me that had beautiful artistic photos with underage girls.

edit; the guy made coffee table photo books.

edit 2; David Hamilton

.

you can buy plenty of Jock Sturges books at Amazon

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Why are you making such a show of denying something that nobody has even accused you of?



Earlier you were speaking on behalf of everyone here, now it's most people here. Can you give a list of, say, 25 people who agree with you that images of naked underage girls are not much of an issue at all?



Please quote which "firm views" of mine you think are weird, exactly.



Who have I lectured, exactly?



I really don't want to see anyone banned, but since you're simply flat out lying now, and making serious false accusations, I'll give you a chance to either back up that lie with a quote from me saying anything even remotely like 'I frequent groups where CP was regularly posted', or you can retract it and admit you're a liar who is remarkably upset at things I said that nobody else seems to have a problem with.



If you read the thread, fuckwit, you'll see not only did I not say anywhere that I read forums or groups where CP is posted (regularly or not), the first person (between the two of us) to specifically refer to CP was you, and the only reason I mentioned it was in reply to you.

Once you've read the thread again and realized what thin ice you're on, I'd advise you to make your apology.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

What am I protesting, exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

What am I projecting, exactly?

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

What am I protesting, exactly?



What am I projecting, exactly?

that is between you and your conscience.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

that is between you and your conscience.

Why are you trolling here, porno jew? Bored with the subject of accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky you posted so much about?

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Why are you trolling here, porno jew? Bored with the subject of accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky you posted so much about?

what is with your obsession with child sex crimes?

i concerned myself with potato salad today. why are you thinking about little children being molested. please explain.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

what is with your obsession with child sex crimes?

You should have read that link on projection, rather than just posting it. Though it did shed interesting light on why you seem to post so often about accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky. Is he also Jewish? And why you decided to get involved in this thread.

How many other threads have you started on the subject of child abuse, porno jew? How many posts have you obsessively made referring to "penn state" in threads that weren't about it? How many threads about child abuse or CP have you clicked on and replied to?

Do you neighbors know about what you get up to online, porno jew, and that you start threads about child abuse on a pornography forum? Please explain.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

You should have read that link on projection, rather than just posting it. Though it did shed interesting light on why you seem to post so often about accused child sex offender Jerry Sandusky. Is he also Jewish? And why you decided to get involved in this thread.

How many other threads have you started on the subject of child abuse, porno jew? How many posts have you obsessively made referring to "penn state" in threads that weren't about it? How many threads about child abuse or CP have you clicked on and replied to?

everyone who read this thread knows who is on the defensive about child exploitation. good luck with your issues.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Do you neighbors know about what you get up to online, porno jew, and that you start threads about child abuse on pornography forums? Please explain.

threats have been forwarded to moderators. enjoy your ban.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

everyone who read this thread knows who is on the defensive about child exploitation. good luck with your issues.

You should have spent some time on Usenet yourself. You might have learned how to troll successfully.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

threats have been forwarded to moderators. enjoy your ban.

You're sucking particularly badly tonight.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

You should have spent some time on Usenet yourself. You might have learned how to troll successfully.

pedo hangout. never been there sorry.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

pedo hangout.

How do you know so much about where pedos hang out?

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

How do you know so much about where pedos hang out?

you think you are clever son. but not everyone can be groomed by you to fall into your traps.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by porno jew

you think you are clever son.

Son? Imagining I'm a small boy now? Get help.

[Bladewire]

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Son? Imagining I'm a small boy now?

read the wiki on projection i posted before. good luck with your issues.

[helterskelter808]

50 sucky troll attempts.

Originally Posted by porno jew

read the wiki on projection i posted before. good luck with your issues.

Didn't like the "Get help" part? I must have hit a nerve. I'm worried about you, porno jew. You need to fixate on another subject for a while.