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undersoul · 12-07-2011, 03:28 PM

noticed buy.xxx is hosting at Mojo.

Hosting: Mojohost host the domain buy.xxx
IP Address: 184.94.157.82
Name Servers: ns2.icmregistry.com, ns1.icmregistry.com

Wonder if Mojo will take a stand against .XXX and stand with majority of adult industry on this. hope so.

Dubya · 12-07-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by undersoul

noticed buy.xxx is hosting at Mojo.

Hosting: Mojohost host the domain buy.xxx
IP Address: 184.94.157.82
Name Servers: ns2.icmregistry.com, ns1.icmregistry.com

Wonder if Mojo will take a stand against .XXX and stand with majority of adult industry on this. hope so.

they would have taken a stand by not hosting it in the first place, doubt they'll go shut it down.

RyuLion · 12-07-2011, 03:38 PM

The Host should not be looked down on..They're NOT the owner of that .XXX domain.

Christina T. · 12-07-2011, 04:03 PM

Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me?

porno jew · 12-07-2011, 04:12 PM

brad is a stand up guy. as with hosting tubes, this has to be a mistake.

Herd · 12-07-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina T.

Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me?

Oh man...

Klen · 12-07-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina T.

Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me?

It cost 100$ to register domain instead 5$.

Jarmusch · 12-07-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

brad is a stand up guy. as with hosting tubes, this has to be a mistake.

This. The account must have been approved by a rogue employee.

Brad Mitchell · 12-07-2011, 05:38 PM

Hello,

Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue.

MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks.

The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs.

For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains.

[/END] Drama

Sincerely,

Brad

HandballJim · 12-07-2011, 06:07 PM

brad your way too nice, tell them to go

If you turn down hosting to a .xxx company, I am sure they can get your hosting license revoked

femdomdestiny · 12-07-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina T.

Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me?

because once they become normal,next step will be to force adult content on xxx. once on xxx it will easily be under control, by filters in software or simply blocked by many countries.

HandballJim · 12-07-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

because once they become normal,next step will be to force adult content on xxx. once on xxx it will easily be under control, by filters in software or simply blocked by many countries.

The domain extension will also be used for mainstream, it is catchy especially for extreme sports. Way too much fear regarding the what if at this point...

Yanks_Todd · 12-07-2011, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hello,

Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue.

MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks.

The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs.

For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains.

[/END] Drama

Sincerely,

Brad

Personally I don't have a problem with this. I am against .xxx and I think it is the people in the "trenches" (programs, affiliates) that hold the cards to .xxx's success. I wouldn't expect a good host to play politics that way. Nice response

SmutHammer · 12-07-2011, 11:28 PM

.xxx is running advertising all over the world telling the public it is the safest place to see porn, who do you think really controls everything? if the consumer wants .xxx then it will succeed, no affiliates or program owners etc. will make much difference.

SmokeyTheBear · 12-07-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by undersoul

Wonder if Mojo will take a stand against .XXX and stand with majority of adult industry on this. hope so.

there was a time to take a stand against .xxx BEFORE they got approved. I don't see the point in boycotting them now .. what will you accomplish ?

They have a contract, funding and plenty of customers

Mr Pheer · 12-07-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina T.

Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me?

Damn you're cute.

Yanks_Todd · 12-07-2011, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

.xxx is running advertising all over the world telling the public it is the safest place to see porn, who do you think really controls everything? if the consumer wants .xxx then it will succeed, no affiliates or program owners etc. will make much difference.

that is 100% true if all traffic was type-in. However if you ever noticed when you are on a website there are links. I will let you do the rest of the math

Christina T. · 12-08-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Damn you're cute.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

because once they become normal,next step will be to force adult content on xxx. once on xxx it will easily be under control, by filters in software or simply blocked by many countries.

I see. I guess i won't be registering either. I don't like being forced into anything

Chris · 12-08-2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hello,

Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue.

MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks.

The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs.

For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains.

[/END] Drama

Sincerely,

Brad

That is kinda strange that buy.xxx is not owned by ICM.

2MuchMark · 12-08-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

because once they become normal,next step will be to force adult content on xxx. once on xxx it will easily be under control, by filters in software or simply blocked by many countries.

Hmm... This is sounds like paranoia speak to me. Think about it. It is easy for any person, ISP or country to block .XXX of course, but it will be impossible to force companies and individuals to relinquish their .COM's and replace them with .XXX. Imagine the costs and endless legal challenges involved. I'm pretty sure that this will never happen.

epitome · 12-08-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Not true.

India blocked it today. $10 per registration goes to the non-profit IFFOR. That means the org got a half million yesterday. What do you think they're going to use that money for since they're a policy org?

NaughtyVisions · 12-08-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

The domain extension will also be used for mainstream, it is catchy especially for extreme sports. Way too much fear regarding the what if at this point...

I haven't read as much of the details as some others have, but I thought that Lawley stated that .XXX was for use specifically for and only by the adult industry. Allowing mainstream would be counterproductive. Not that I think .XXX is productive at all, but it defeats Lawley's purpose to allow just anything on a .XXX domain.

He's pushing .XXX to both us and consumers as the porn TLD. So, unless it's snowboarding porn, extreme sports would have no purpose on .XXX.

Adult Insider Dave · 12-08-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hello,

Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue.

MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks.

The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs.

For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains.

[/END] Drama

Sincerely,

Brad

Brad's the man, don't fuck w/ him! I agree though, not up to the host to block business. If you wanna get pissed about someone owning the domain talk to the owner.

Klen · 12-08-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hmm... This is sounds like paranoia speak to me. Think about it. It is easy for any person, ISP or country to block .XXX of course, but it will be impossible to force companies and individuals to relinquish their .COM's and replace them with .XXX. Imagine the costs and endless legal challenges involved. I'm pretty sure that this will never happen.

Exactly,since companies which own domains like porn.com and sex.com probably wont be able get xxx counterparts without paying millions again.

Brad Mitchell · 12-08-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

That is kinda strange that buy.xxx is not owned by ICM.

Point of clarification, I didn't say ICM doesn't own buy.xxx. WHOIS indicates that ICM owns buy.xxx. What I said is "The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry." In laymans terms, this hosting is like a customer of a customer.

Brad

Chris · 12-08-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Point of clarification, I didn't say ICM doesn't own buy.xxx. WHOIS indicates that ICM owns buy.xxx. What I said is "The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry." In laymans terms, this hosting is like a customer of a customer.

Brad

Thanks for the clarification brad :-)

Major Tom Thanks Duke · 12-08-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hello,

Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue.

MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks.

The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs.

For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains.

[/END] Drama

Sincerely,

Brad

Brad, you're a sexy bitch & that's all I care about!

ds

HandballJim · 12-08-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

I haven't read as much of the details as some others have, but I thought that Lawley stated that .XXX was for use specifically for and only by the adult industry. Allowing mainstream would be counterproductive. Not that I think .XXX is productive at all, but it defeats Lawley's purpose to allow just anything on a .XXX domain.

He's pushing .XXX to both us and consumers as the porn TLD. So, unless it's snowboarding porn, extreme sports would have no purpose on .XXX.

I think you can do what you like with the domains, otherwise they would not allow forwarding either. As far as I have seen there is no information that you must host adult on the .xxx, but of course most know .xxx is for adult. You can't tell me a company like Apple who most likely purchased or blocked all their trademark domains...can't publish their products on them if they wanted to.

That would be saying that .us is for the United States only, in which you can do anything you like with that shitty domain extension.

NaughtyVisions · 12-08-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

I think you can do what you like with the domains, otherwise they would not allow forwarding either. As far as I have seen there is no information that you must host adult on the .xxx, but of course most know .xxx is for adult. You can't tell me a company like Apple who most likely purchased or blocked all their trademark domains...can't publish their products on them if they wanted to.

That would be saying that .us is for the United States only, in which you can do anything you like with that shitty domain extension.

https://member-icmregistry.custhelp....OURCbzE3TGs%3D

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Who can register a .XXX domain?
Published 06/11/2011 08:51 AM | Updated 06/16/2011 06:50 AM

Individuals, business, entities, and organizations that provide online, sexually-oriented adult entertainment (?Online Adult Entertainment?) intended for consenting adults or for other community members (?Providers?); Represent Providers (?Representatives?); or Provide products or services to Providers and Representatives (?Service Providers?) are eligible to register .XXX domain names.

How will the registry validate that a registrant is in the sponsored community?
Published 06/16/2011 07:51 AM | Updated 09/09/2011 01:00 PM
Every registrant who wants to operate a live website with their .xxx domain name will have to complete the membership application process. During this process their contact information will be validated. Those who don?t validate will be unable to have their domains go live.

The "sponsored community" is the "Online Adult Entertainment" industry, as defined in the first question. According to the second question about validation, if the registrant can't be verifed to be in the "sponsored community," their site won't go live.

Seems to me that .XXX is not for any mainstream sites. The only references to non-adult companies and trademarks refer to them blocking their trademark domains, not putting non-adult oriented content on it.

NaughtyVisions · 12-08-2011, 08:42 PM

More about the "Sponsored Community"

http://about.xxx/about/sponsored-community/

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How do you become a member of the Sponsored Community?

To have your .xxx domain name become a live website, you must self-attest to being a member of the Sponsored Community and complete the Membership Application. Below is a definition of the Sponsored Community with examples, as well as the Membership Application process all members will have to complete.

Our Sponsored Community consists of individuals, business, entities, and organizations that fit any one of the following descriptions:

* Provide Online Adult Entertainment intended for consenting adults (?Providers?) (e.g. adult webmasters, performers, studios, store owners, club operators) </li>

* Represent Providers (?Representatives?) (e.g. lawyers, agents, advisors, accountants, affiliates)

* Provide products or services to Providers and Representatives (?Service Providers?) (e.g. adult domainers, manufacturers, delivery companies, caterers, distribution companies, merchant account services, make up artists, stylists, hosting services)

chaze · 12-08-2011, 08:51 PM

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon either, but just like tubes and tgp's before that, the online adult industry is only going to take an inevitable hit. Greed is bigger then any "right" when it comes to business and always will be.

HandballJim · 12-08-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

More about the "Sponsored Community"

http://about.xxx/about/sponsored-community/

According to their websites info you are correct, but we will need that guy from DOTxxx to clarify this. For now the mainstream domain I purchased is just forwarding to my mainstream website.

If you ask me if you limit to adult websites your not covering the extensions full potential. The extension looks damn good in type, art, promotion, etc. Vodka.xxx for naughty people, you got endless possibilities. Remember this is about making money...

NaughtyVisions · 12-08-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HandballJim

According to their websites info you are correct, but we will need that guy from DOTxxx to clarify this. For now the mainstream domain I purchased is just forwarding to my mainstream website.

If you ask me if you limit to adult websites your not covering the extensions full potential. The extension looks damn good in type, art, promotion, etc. Vodka.xxx for naughty people, you got endless possibilities. Remember this is about making money...

Before I scrolled down to your reply, I was thinking, "where's that dotxxx guy to answer our questions?"

I agree with you that allowing non-adult content would bring about a ton of additional revenue, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it, but that would just mean that "sponsored community" thing is lies and bullshit.

HandballJim · 12-08-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Before I scrolled down to your reply, I was thinking, "where's that dotxxx guy to answer our questions?"

I agree with you that allowing non-adult content would bring about a ton of additional revenue, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it, but that would just mean that "sponsored community" thing is lies and bullshit.

well I filled out the application in 8 seconds at my job, so anyone can be a member its just very simple. I made sure I used my company LLC, they just phone verify by giving you a pin to punch in...and I was set. I stressed the 8 seconds since they run spyware at my job to see what were doing on our desktops.

12-07-2011, 03:28 PM	#1
undersoul Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: underground Posts: 1,212	Mojo hosting buy.xxx? noticed buy.xxx is hosting at Mojo. Hosting: Mojohost host the domain buy.xxx IP Address: 184.94.157.82 Name Servers: ns2.icmregistry.com, ns1.icmregistry.com Wonder if Mojo will take a stand against .XXX and stand with majority of adult industry on this. hope so. __________________ RIP TD

12-07-2011, 03:38 PM	#3
RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,114	The Host should not be looked down on..They're NOT the owner of that .XXX domain. __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

12-07-2011, 04:03 PM	#4
Christina T. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 196	Why are people so against .xxx? Can someone explain to me? __________________ just a naughty girl who LOVES making money on the Interweb!

12-07-2011, 05:38 PM	#9
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,779	Hello, Before this thread gets rediculous in a way that only GFY could do, let me say there really is NO drama here. I've been very candid and honest about .XXX both online and in person at conferences. I even moderated the (heated) debate in Amsterdam at AVN's Webmaster Access in September impartially.. even though (personally) I haven't been historically impartial on the issue. MojoHost faithfully (and responsibly) serves more than 700 "adult" entities around the world. This client base represents just less than a hundred thousand adult domains. We have a fiduciary responsibiliy as a ISP/host to route internet traffic to all countries and TLD/sTLDs. .XXX exists. It was only a matter of time before its extension resolved somewhere in our network of clients, clients of clients, or IP space. Surely, the same holds true for all other hosts and networks. The site in question resolves to an established client that isn't ICM Registry. What does this mean? It means we didn't solicit hosting this site. We were in fact the last to know it resolved here. Will it continue to resolve here? Yes, as long as someone points DNS to one of our IPs. For the curious out there, I do not have ownership of any .XXX domains. [/END] Drama Sincerely, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

12-07-2011, 06:07 PM	#10
HandballJim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4,024	brad your way too nice, tell them to go If you turn down hosting to a .xxx company, I am sure they can get your hosting license revoked __________________ HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

12-07-2011, 04:12 PM	#5
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	brad is a stand up guy. as with hosting tubes, this has to be a mistake.

12-07-2011, 11:28 PM	#14
SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,310	.xxx is running advertising all over the world telling the public it is the safest place to see porn, who do you think really controls everything? if the consumer wants .xxx then it will succeed, no affiliates or program owners etc. will make much difference.

12-08-2011, 08:51 PM	#31
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	I'm not jumping on the bandwagon either, but just like tubes and tgp's before that, the online adult industry is only going to take an inevitable hit. Greed is bigger then any "right" when it comes to business and always will be.