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Old 12-07-2011, 06:21 PM   #1
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Why does XXX want to know my agenda?

The reason why "Premium" domains already registered during the Sunshine era is because the only way dotXXX passed was by selling the "illusion" of cleaning up the industry. They just fucking registered whatever they wanted to!!! The names they knew were big names.

I figured that out when I asked the yahoo on this board.... dotxxx.... how can I get a domain name?

That name was pantyhose.xxx I wanted to create a fetish site. His response was to email and also give an in depth description of how I wanted to develop it. "We are interested in what your plans are"

Well, let me start by saying...

Fuck you

I would never tell what I am doing as that would make me feel like big brother is on my shoulder. (all the other obvious reasons here )

Are you big brother?

So ICANN has allowed the dotXXX and you guys (ICM registry) are walloping in the signups that have occurred.

Did you really clean up this industry or just scrape it?

How does it feel to want to know what everybody is doing? How does it feel when all this is taken away from you?

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Old 12-07-2011, 06:30 PM   #2
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ICM Registry are, by precise definition, extorting trademark owners and rights holders by reserving trademarks as premium domains.

They may have checked against US trademarks but I can tell you for an absolute fact that they haven't against Australian trademarks. They have also forgotten about a very important aspect of trademark law in the UK and Australia, presumably some other Commonwealth countries, that being the "common law" trademark.

We own a trademark, ICM Registry has reserved it and I will have great pleasure in taking ICM Registry to task once they issue the domain matching this mark to a third party.
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If you are a surfer and you try it out after the commercials and get a blank page that says: "This domain has been reserved from registration." then you try another keyword.xxx and it says the same how many more will you try?

At this point .xxx domains require development which costs money, time and effort.
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ICM Registry are, by precise definition, extorting trademark owners and rights holders by reserving trademarks as premium domains.

They may have checked against US trademarks but I can tell you for an absolute fact that they haven't against Australian trademarks. They have also forgotten about a very important aspect of trademark law in the UK and Australia, presumably some other Commonwealth countries, that being the "common law" trademark.

We own a trademark, ICM Registry has reserved it and I will have great pleasure in taking ICM Registry to task once they issue the domain matching this mark to a third party.
AdultKing, you are more than welcome to email me with your trademarks. I'd be happy to look into it for you.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:49 PM   #5
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AdultKing, you are more than welcome to email me with your trademarks. I'd be happy to look into it for you.
Why? Why not just accept money from people who want domain names, out of fear, that will pay ludicrous prices.

Then, accept payment from people who want to gamble in this new sTLD, at ludicrous prices.

Then, protect the industry like superman.

Maybe some people see through your bullshit?

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AdultKing, you are more than welcome to email me with your trademarks. I'd be happy to look into it for you.
With all due respect, we've emailed ICM Registry and the response was far from satisfactory.

Unless you think you can do more than [email protected] then I don't see much point in emailing you.

(Edit: In one response from ICM Registry legal we were advised to contact [email protected] about securing premium domains. Huge mistake on the part of ICM Registry as we are able to establish a clear attempt by ICM Registry to extort us for securing the domain)

I have solid legal advice in the form of a written opinion from a QC engaged by our lawyers Mallesons Stephen Jaques. They're very experienced in this area as a little research by you will reveal.

Unfortunately we have no grounds for proceeding unless ICM Registry issues the domain to a third party, however this suits us just fine. It is not causing us harm while it's not being used.

However, the moment this domain is released you can expect us to act swiftly. I am told that the punitive damages (compensation) we will be entitled to seek are considerable.

The registrant of the domain will be subject to immediate UDRP using the standard process.

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The reason why "Premium" domains already registered during the Sunshine era is because the only way dotXXX passed was by selling the "illusion" of cleaning up the industry. They just fucking registered whatever they wanted to!!! The names they knew were big names.

I figured that out when I asked the yahoo on this board.... dotxxx.... how can I get a domain name?

That name was pantyhose.xxx I wanted to create a fetish site. His response was to email and also give an in depth description of how I wanted to develop it. "We are interested in what your plans are"

Well, let me start by saying...

Fuck you

I would never tell what I am doing as that would make me feel like big brother is on my shoulder. (all the other obvious reasons here )

Are you big brother?

So ICANN has allowed the dotXXX and you guys (ICM registry) are walloping in the signups that have occurred.

Did you really clean up this industry or just scrape it?

How does it feel to want to know what everybody is doing? How does it feel when all this is taken away from you?

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"We are interested in what your plans are"

fucking bullshit that is
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:01 PM   #8
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"We are interested in what your plans are"

fucking bullshit that is
That's one of the reasons this shit passed...

They are to monitor and control what is allowed on the internet in the form of adult entertainment.

I read through articles since 2005 and the writing is so clearly on the wall...
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Do they also want to know what are the plans for horse.xxx ?
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:35 PM   #11
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Nice, dotxxx. Something else.
You appear to be more and more nothing but a criminal enterprise.
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is it not self evident to them what you plan to do with a .xxx domain? let alone a pantyhose.xxx domain... clearly you want to make a website to sell childrens toys!
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"If you are interested in pursuing the allocation of any of the .xxx names that are reserved as a part of ICM Registry’s Premium Names program, we welcome you to provide us with an offer of price as well as a proposal as to what your plans are for the name. Please contact Vaughn Liley at [email protected] with that information."

So reserving that domain name takes emails, descriptions and a "good faith" agenda.

Are you kidding me? That is not their name, that is not a name except for who invented the fucking thing... they have no right to reserve it, control it, or anything else!

Read between the lines... they want to control the adult industry.

Now, do you want to buy a .xxx?
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.xxx is a scam. All the good adult domains are owned by them or by well know domain name speculators:

http://www.elliotsblog.com/frank-sch...sk-on-xxx-8017

http://buymedomains.com/2011/11/top-...tions-now.html

I think the master plan is to keep all the good generic .xxx domains, then lobby in DC to force all adult content out of all other tld's and in the end control all the porn traffic and porn billing online.

Of course that ain't gonna happen. If so all mobile sites must be on a .mobi, travel related sites on .travel etc.

This is just a scam from ICM to try to create their own porn empire and legally exhort mainstream biz in the process.
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With all due respect, we've emailed ICM Registry and the response was far from satisfactory.

Unless you think you can do more than [email protected] then I don't see much point in emailing you.

(Edit: In one response from ICM Registry legal we were advised to contact [email protected] about securing premium domains. Huge mistake on the part of ICM Registry as we are able to establish a clear attempt by ICM Registry to extort us for securing the domain)

I have solid legal advice in the form of a written opinion from a QC engaged by our lawyers Mallesons Stephen Jaques. They're very experienced in this area as a little research by you will reveal.

Unfortunately we have no grounds for proceeding unless ICM Registry issues the domain to a third party, however this suits us just fine. It is not causing us harm while it's not being used.

However, the moment this domain is released you can expect us to act swiftly. I am told that the punitive damages (compensation) we will be entitled to seek are considerable.

The registrant of the domain will be subject to immediate UDRP using the standard process.
IANAL - Note that UDRP policy only covers transfer of the disputed domain name and does not provide for reimbursement of any legal expenses. Will you be paying the legal fees to file the UDRP and the annual domain renewal fees after winning the UDRP?
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That's one of the reasons this shit passed...

They are to monitor and control what is allowed on the internet in the form of adult entertainment.

I read through articles since 2005 and the writing is so clearly on the wall...

The plan is also to consolidate all the adult traffic and business, and give it to all the big companies, while kicking out the 90% competition (which is us, adult webmasters and affiliates).

The only reason a few of the biggest players in the game have not gotten on board with .XXX is because of the lucrative free sites they own on the .coms. They have a license to print money with those sites. Most likely .XXX said to these goliaths that if u want to join us u will have to give that up. But if your the king, why would u give up the throne?

Anyone that thinks that they will be starting a new life with .XXX, that they will be able to make all kinds of money, to indulge in a free enterprise system, with true competition, is believing in a fairy tale. Unless u have been in talks with .XXX since the jump, and u can afford $300,000, $500,000, $1,000,000 domains, and making millions in profit each year. But if not, and a mandate somehow comes to pass, and u bought .XXX names thinking u will be fine to just switch over and keep working in the adult business, u will not, and will be out of the business in a year or two down the road.

Thats why its so important to not purchase .XXX domains.
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The plan is also to consolidate all the adult traffic and business, and give it to all the big companies, while kicking out the 90% competition (which is us, adult webmasters and affiliates).

The only reason a few of the biggest players in the game have not gotten on board with .XXX is because of the lucrative free sites they own on the .coms. They have a license to print money with those sites. Most likely .XXX said to these goliaths that if u want to join us u will have to give that up. But if your the king, why would u give up the throne?

Anyone that thinks that they will be starting a new life with .XXX, that they will be able to make all kinds of money, to indulge in a free enterprise system, with true competition, is believing in a fairy tale. Unless u have been in talks with .XXX since the jump, and u can afford $300,000, $500,000, $1,000,000 domains, and making millions in profit each year. But if not, and a mandate somehow comes to pass, and u bought .XXX names thinking u will be fine to just switch over and keep working in the adult business, u will not, and will be out of the business in a year or two down the road.

Thats why its so important to not purchase .XXX domains.
Right, it is an alternative form of consolidation to Manwin's current Modus operandi of purchasing an empire.
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AdultKing, you are more than welcome to email me with your trademarks. I'd be happy to look into it for you.
ROFL! Enjoy every cent you fucking vampires grab.

I'll still wait for a .xxx site to impinge on the intellectual properties of one of my decade old non-trademarked sites. We'll see how well that works out. I'm guessing that Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc. will shut the spamming .xxx domains down within five minutes of my complaint.

Its good that you can so easily extort money from cowards, though - you fucking bag of shit.

Really? Beyond the corporations you've blackmailed into buying your garbage, 99% of .xxx domains are going to be feeble attempts to steal traffic from existing .coms.

Enjoy the income while you can. It's gonna go away real fast.
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With all due respect, we've emailed ICM Registry and the response was far from satisfactory.

Unless you think you can do more than [email protected] then I don't see much point in emailing you.

(Edit: In one response from ICM Registry legal we were advised to contact [email protected] about securing premium domains. Huge mistake on the part of ICM Registry as we are able to establish a clear attempt by ICM Registry to extort us for securing the domain)

I have solid legal advice in the form of a written opinion from a QC engaged by our lawyers Mallesons Stephen Jaques. They're very experienced in this area as a little research by you will reveal.

Unfortunately we have no grounds for proceeding unless ICM Registry issues the domain to a third party, however this suits us just fine. It is not causing us harm while it's not being used.

However, the moment this domain is released you can expect us to act swiftly. I am told that the punitive damages (compensation) we will be entitled to seek are considerable.

The registrant of the domain will be subject to immediate UDRP using the standard process.
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Fucking DVLA asked similar questions about a numberplate I wanted to register then withdrew it from sale when they realised it had been missed in their real words check and put it up for auction
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Honestly I wonder why certain companies are fighting .xxx. Other than the issue of having to create multiple brands. Many of them have very deep pockets so it can't be the cost of registration, which is a pittance for them. I guess it is really a problem of what ifs... Like what if the US decides to put all adult content on .xxx?
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Honestly I wonder why certain companies are fighting .xxx. Other than the issue of having to create multiple brands. Many of them have very deep pockets so it can't be the cost of registration, which is a pittance for them. I guess it is really a problem of what ifs... Like what if the US decides to put all adult content on .xxx?
I'm not sure... maybe the extortion factor doesn't sit well with many?

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Hey, thanks for taking away two really good names from me after I was already awarded them by Directnic. This really shows what a scam operation you clowns are running.

I hope Manwin eats you alive in court.
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IANAL - Note that UDRP policy only covers transfer of the disputed domain name and does not provide for reimbursement of any legal expenses. Will you be paying the legal fees to file the UDRP and the annual domain renewal fees after winning the UDRP?
You are correct, there are no remedies other than the securing of the domain name from a favourable UDRP ruling.

However ICM Registry are able to be sued for misappropriation of intellectual property and it would be ICM Registry we would be going after as a civil proceeding. This is where the question of damages arises.
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What ever you do, do not give them too much information and the information you give them should be as close to a lie as possible, if not an outright lie. Remember, you are dealing with lying, greedy crooks

On another note, what business is it of theirs as to what you are going to use the domain for?

Has ICM now turned into the Nazi Gestapo regime?

Fuck .XXX, ICM and ICANN
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With all due respect, we've emailed ICM Registry and the response was far from satisfactory.

Unless you think you can do more than [email protected] then I don't see much point in emailing you.

(Edit: In one response from ICM Registry legal we were advised to contact [email protected] about securing premium domains. Huge mistake on the part of ICM Registry as we are able to establish a clear attempt by ICM Registry to extort us for securing the domain)

I have solid legal advice in the form of a written opinion from a QC engaged by our lawyers Mallesons Stephen Jaques. They're very experienced in this area as a little research by you will reveal.

Unfortunately we have no grounds for proceeding unless ICM Registry issues the domain to a third party, however this suits us just fine. It is not causing us harm while it's not being used.

However, the moment this domain is released you can expect us to act swiftly. I am told that the punitive damages (compensation) we will be entitled to seek are considerable.

The registrant of the domain will be subject to immediate UDRP using the standard process.
I did some research to see if there was some way I could help you out, AdultKing. I've reviewed the files and believe that I know the name that you're referring to. Do you in fact have a registered trademark for that three letter string? If so, please provide the details and I'll see what I can do.
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I did some research to see if there was some way I could help you out, AdultKing. I've reviewed the files and believe that I know the name that you're referring to. Do you in fact have a registered trademark for that three letter string? If so, please provide the details and I'll see what I can do.
Why don't you provide proof to AdultKing that you own the trademark for the said 3 letter string?
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I did some research to see if there was some way I could help you out, AdultKing. I've reviewed the files and believe that I know the name that you're referring to. Do you in fact have a registered trademark for that three letter string? If so, please provide the details and I'll see what I can do.


It's a common law trademark, used on the masthead of a magazine before 1995, used on the Internet since 1995, registered as a domain in 1994. Nobody predates our use of that string in relation to adult entertainment prior to us. Nor was this string used for any adult site on the Internet before us. We were the first organization on the Internet to use that string in a domain related to adult content. We have constantly used that name as a brand for mail order adult goods in Australia since 1985.

Common Law trademarks are protected by Australian law in precisely the same way as registered trademarks, they are also protected by treaty under the Australian - US Fair Trade treaties.

However, the point of this matter is, always will be, that ICM Registry has shown bad faith by reserving so many common terms, even those which do not form dictionary words, some which form the basis of common law trademarks and those which through reservation for premium auction, constitute unfair advantage and unconscionable conduct on the part of ICM Registry.

One of the crucial aspects here is whether there is, or is not, a level playing field. ICM Registry did not reserve every combination of three letters, nor did it reserve every combination of three letters that could form a commonly used abbreviation of another word.

ICM Registry was informed of our interests in this domain prior to the conclusion of sunrise, from which we were locked out due to this reservation, it declined to be of assistance then despite being given the facts of the matter.

Rest assured, this domain will be aggressively pursued by us, win or lose we're going to be a thorn in the side of ICM Registry until it's released to us or permanently blocked from registration.

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Old 12-08-2011, 11:43 PM   #32
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:45 PM   #33
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Because they want to highly regulate everything and make sure you aren't doing something shady with your .xxx site. Irony.
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:42 AM   #35
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It's a common law trademark, used on the masthead of a magazine before 1995, used on the Internet since 1995, registered as a domain in 1994. Nobody predates our use of that string in relation to adult entertainment prior to us. Nor was this string used for any adult site on the Internet before us. We were the first organization on the Internet to use that string in a domain related to adult content. We have constantly used that name as a brand for mail order adult goods in Australia since 1985.

Common Law trademarks are protected by Australian law in precisely the same way as registered trademarks, they are also protected by treaty under the Australian - US Fair Trade treaties.

However, the point of this matter is, always will be, that ICM Registry has shown bad faith by reserving so many common terms, even those which do not form dictionary words, some which form the basis of common law trademarks and those which through reservation for premium auction, constitute unfair advantage and unconscionable conduct on the part of ICM Registry.

One of the crucial aspects here is whether there is, or is not, a level playing field. ICM Registry did not reserve every combination of three letters, nor did it reserve every combination of three letters that could form a commonly used abbreviation of another word.

ICM Registry was informed of our interests in this domain prior to the conclusion of sunrise, from which we were locked out due to this reservation, it declined to be of assistance then despite being given the facts of the matter.

Rest assured, this domain will be aggressively pursued by us, win or lose we're going to be a thorn in the side of ICM Registry until it's released to us or permanently blocked from registration.
Thanks for the clarification.
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