War takes its toll

[theking]

...around 58,000 U.S. troops were killed in Vietnam. Since then around 100,000 U.S. troops that served in Vietnam have taken their own lives.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by theking

...around 58,000 U.S. troops were killed in Vietnam. Since then around 100,000 U.S. troops that served in Vietnam have taken their own lives.

whoa... that's fucked up

[femdomdestiny]

Crazy, I was just reading about Vietnam war history and saw your thread now

[Caligari]

Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need of some stranger's hand
In a desperate land

.

[theking]

It is reported that...on average...5 vets of Iraq and Afghanistan are committing suicide daily.

Which would mean that more have probably taken their own lives than were lost in theater.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by theking

It is reported that...on average...5 vets of Iraq and Afghanistan are committing suicide daily.

That was going to be my next question...Man, that's sad. Imagine in 30 years what the number of suicides will be PLUS the number of their victims as they return and go nuts from ptsd, etc...

Politicians are a despicable lot.

[Lucy - CSC]

Worst part is you tend to post about war glorifying it.

[directfiesta]

Junkyard gives up secret accounts of Iraq massacre
The interviews with Marines after killings in Haditha were meant to be destroyed as troops left country

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45680863/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/#.TuoCxfIfh40


Hope those guys get added to the list .

[theking]

Originally Posted by Lucy - CSC

Worst part is you tend to post about war glorifying it.

Pigshit! I was a combat soldier that engaged in multiple operations in multiple theaters and I paid a heavy price which I live with daily and have since '91. I am one of those that have had to fight with myself daily since '91 not to end my life and thus far I continue on...but it is a struggle that I face every day. In no way do I glorify war.

[Rochard]

Interesting statistics.

My father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I still don't know what happened.

[Operator]

Ya War Takes Trolls, lots of trolls...

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit! I was a combat soldier that engaged in multiple operations in multiple theaters and I paid a heavy price which I live with daily and have since '91. I am one of those that have had to fight with myself daily since '91 not to end my life and thus far I continue on...but it is a struggle that I face every day. In no way do I glorify war.

Well, As far as I know, army in US is volunatary and foreign troops never put a foot on US soild in last 50 year. No reason to complain now, jut think about all those ordinary people that were forced to take arms to defend because of US and US involvement or US created wars worldwide.

[Operator]

I'm not going to be micro chopped

[theking]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Well, As far as I know, army in US is volunatary and foreign troops never put a foot on US soild in last 50 year. No reason to complain now, jut think about all those ordinary people that were forced to take arms to defend because of US and US involvement or US created wars worldwide.

I am not complaining...just making a statement...and I disagree with your opinion about "U.S. created wars". World events and wars are very complicated affairs.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Interesting statistics.

My father died in Vietnam when I was nine months old. I still don't know what happened.

The military would have provided your mother with some kind of information...or is it she would not tell you? Of course you could get the information from the military yourself.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by theking

The military would have provided your mother with some kind of information...or is it she would not tell you? Of course you could get the information from the military yourself.

Long story.

But in a nutshell, my mother is a nut case. Basically she decided to hide a lot about my father's past - For example, I was twenty-five when I got a call from a sister (my father's daughter) that I didn't know existed. Turns out after my father's death my mother decided to completely re-write my father's history and hide a lot from me. I left home at an early age and our relationship has been strained at best and she never really shared much info about his death. All I know is that he died a US Marine in Vietnam. Oddly enough, that's enough for me.

My mother seems to think my wife is "not good enough for me" and "leads me around like a dog" (which is funny because I work in porn, lol) and we haven't spoken in six years.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Long story.

But in a nutshell, my mother is a nut case. Basically she decided to hide a lot about my father's past - For example, I was twenty-five when I got a call from a sister (my father's daughter) that I didn't know existed. Turns out after my father's death my mother decided to completely re-write my father's history and hide a lot from me. I left home at an early age and our relationship has been strained at best and she never really shared much info about his death. All I know is that he died a US Marine in Vietnam. Oddly enough, that's enough for me.

My mother seems to think my wife is "not good enough for me" and "leads me around like a dog" (which is funny because I work in porn, lol) and we haven't spoken in six years.

I do not think it is odd that you do not require anymore information than that. I am sorry that you never got to know your father. I lost my father and mother both when I was 12...to a car accident but at least I knew them for 12 years. My father was career military.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Two of my Uncles fought hand to hand in the Japanese held Pacific islands in WW2 -- they both were weirded out by the experience.

At least their comrades fought and died for a just cause but the post traumatic experience -- the flashbacks and in the case of Vietnam the guilt; can be more that a vet can handle.

When they say "war is hell" they are not speaking metaphorically.

When I was 15 a friend of mine in the neighborhood was an US Army Sergeant, a "grunt" in the 'nam, he was AWOL, I suppose on his way to being a deserter, he told me he just could not go back after seeing some of the guys in his platoon killed, decapitated and their heads put on poles in the ground as warning. This is what post traumatic stress is about and where the flashbacks come from. Make a long story short -- the MP's arrested him and he was sent back to fight some more.

[Cherry7]

War is big business - invest your son.

[VikingMan]

I help out an older gentlemen who lives in my city. He is still dealing with the side effects of getting sprayed with Agent Orange when he served in Vietnam. There are thousands of vets like him still around