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Adult Star Releases Her Phone Number
For those of you who are attentive to where this industry is going to, you can understand the importance of this move on a long term.
I'm curious to know GFY's members opinion. http://business.avn.com/articles/36192.html |
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What? It's just like a private email address for members.
I wonder how often calls will really be answered? Edit... lol it's actully you! ;)
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Sab!
Actually I think it's pretty cool, you'll always get those 'strange' calls I'm sure but in this day and age of it getting harder and harder to turn a buck as a girl, doing something to maintain that personal relationship is awesome. Good for you and I hope it keeps you out one step ahead!
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interesting move... let us know how it all works out
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Honestly - who cares about the phone number, if she answers it, how often, blah blah blah. None of that matters.
The pure act of doing this = marketing/publicity GOLD. One of the most innovative ideas I've seen in the industry in a long long time.
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I think is a pretty cool idea, Sabrina I want your personal phone number
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An interesting move. I always like to see people trying new things.
Back in the day, before I had worked with most of the well known people in the industry, I was excited when I got a phone call from one of my favorite models. I had just finished "reviewing" ;) her site a few minutes before she called, saying "I don't know if you've ever seen my site, here's what I need ...". I'm thinking "yeah, I've been seeing your site just a few minutes ago". If I, an industry professional remember that years later, I bet the surfers will love it. Might have to change your number every so often, but that's easy to do as often as you want if you do a little VOIP bridge like we use here for other purposes.
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You can't get phone numbers from a tube site. So congrats on your move.
Our program in LifestyleAmateurs.com is based on the same concept but we use the models emails for the interaction. You should sign up with us in addition to your site, it's just another revenue stream for you. Anyway, best of luck!
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Good idea and it never hurts to be first.
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Good idea...
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I think a better idea might be to have a skype whitelist of all active members to your website. They need to maintain their membership to keep on the list. $$$
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will get a lot more fans knowing they can interact
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You could totally be getting 3.99/min+ for this... Just so you know...
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Smart!!!
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PSSuperstars, killerk, dready: i think you are missing the point here. Of course you can charge 3.99 a min but then it's not your prvate number anymore and you won't get more sales and for sure you won't fidelize the customer; that's just another fee based service and it has nothing to do with my move and its purpose. Same thing about skype: it does not have the same strenght commercially as the landline number of your fav model.
The idea behind is to fidelize the user to the person and personality versus content. A solo girl cannot compete anymore content wise with all the free stuff around, tubes, big companies offering 1000's of GBs of diversified content, etc. But if you fidelize the user to the person and her/his personality offering real interaction, chance to meet, to talk and other which i will release soon, then the big content producers and free streamers cannot compete with you. That's at least how i see it ;) Thanks evberybody for your precious feedback and interest. |
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Claudia-Marie does "phone" all the time on Streamate when she's doing webcam shows. The guys on the other end input their number, she puts in hers. Then the phone call is handled anonymously. Neither side sees the other's phone number.
I'm assuming that's what you're doing? That way only current members can ever call you. ![]() Anyway, it's not exactly "new" to the industry as I just pointed out. It's being done right now on Streamate by such pornstars as Sunny Leone, Claudia-Marie, Natasha Nice, Jill Kelly, Jayda Diamonde, Sierra Sky, Diamond Jackson, Devon Michaels, Little Lupe, Ashley Steel, Nikki Nova, Zoey Andres, and Gina Lynn... Hell let me put my damn code in here to check out the pornstar section: http://www.streamate.com/webcam/porn...77&UHNSMTY=303 And what the hell....might as well spam my webmaster referral code in case you want to promote them. It's Money Tree that owns Streamate: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?341477 And all of those pornstars are doing "phone" at the same time they are doing the cam show. ![]() Edit: And doing phone with them in chat doesn't cost any extra to the customer either. |
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I think it's a neat idea, and a really good way to connect with fans... it'll be interesting to see what kind of problems crop up and how to deal with them.
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No, my number is posted. It's not streamate like. They are two different concepts and calls are not pre scheduled. Beside why would i use something like that on webcam, when there is already audio. Here we are talking about releasing your number like you did if you met someone at a disco or something. They get get the number, they call you whenever they want, you pick the call as usual when you can, same way you would do with your friends, relatives etc. All the girls you mentioned don't have their phone number posted on their website. I don't doubt streamate is great, but we are talking about two completely different things here.
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I think it's a risky idea. That said, people that make money are usually people who take risks. This could really pay off on your site retention... provided you change that phone number monthly. ;)
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You're special indeed. That's why my fans feel special too now :-p
By the way, need to catch with you, not sure i'll be able this week cause i'm doing up and down between Italy and Switzerland, but next one for sure. Got some news ;) Smoochies Sab |
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I'm not trying to be negative at all...interaction is definitely where it's at. I just think you may have needed to tweak this idea out a little more. It needs to be something special for members only right? Not just a number that will get spread around the internet to thousands of people who aren't spending a penny. Part of the marketing has to be IF you join the site THEN you get to interact. ![]() Anyway you asked: "Beside why would i use something like that on webcam, when there is already audio" I thought the same thing. And then I watched the guys start calling. I don't know why they do it, but they do. And Claudia-Marie will only talk to them on the phone when she's in the nude part getting paid of course. ![]() For some reason they seem to think the chat is more "real" if they can prove it by talking on the phone and seeing the girl LIVE that they are watching actually on the phone thus "proving' it's not "fake" (I know, I know) Anyway, you might want to give some thought to what I'm saying. You should make that a part of the privileges of membership and market it as such. I'm not too bad at making money with a personality site. ![]() |
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Unlike the other systems out there, I would imagine that members will feel more like your friend ... and not just a customer. That is a great connection to help your members make. |
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Great idea! Are you going to start updating your blog more regularly?
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The one downside I see to all of this is someone posting that private number in the comments section on a tube site ... like "she's hot ... you can call her anytime at..." |
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what does fidelize mean and where does the term come from?
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also, will you verify the caller is a member at the start of the call?
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you know where to find me ;)
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Thanks Robbie, i don't think you are negative. I see what you mean, but i can assure you that the idea has been fully tweaked and tested, marketing wise, under every aspect.
"Unlike the other systems out there, I would imagine that members will feel more like your friend ... and not just a customer." That's exactly the idea behind it, Epitome, thanks. |
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Is it Audrey Bitoni? Oh it's Sabrina Who?
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going to be some calls to return on sat and sunday mornings, you know, all the drunk horny single guys calling at 2am the nite before
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Just sign up for skype accounts and get as many numbers as you want, or get a google voice account number and redirect it to your normal phone during the hours you allow calls. Disable the forward when you want it off and not be be bothered. Skype you can sign up and get as many numbers as you need. Very small fee for a monthly or even yearly phone number with skype. But if you can get a google voice one you have more options to use it.
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Sabrina Troll, bronco....i'm surprised you are not familiar with the Troll's family...
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Let's try to recap: my phone number is available on my member's area for my fans. I did this in the effort of providing more interaction with my fans, to make them more loyal and to encourage new ones. I'm not new to these things since i already meet my fans for free and almost all my own productions are shot with my fans already.
I always believed that content and webcam are not enough anymore for the solo girls niche (in truth i believe it has lost appeal also in other niches, but this is a different thing); so far i have been right for what concerns myself if it's true that i'm in the biz since 3 years and that i make a very decent living after expenses with my own traffic. I don't lead the edge of anything: i just had an idea, i've put it at work and i've made it public. What i do or don't technically, it's something that i'm certainly not going to share with everybody: do your research, if you are interested in putting the idea at work, like i did and come out with your own strategy and system. If you don't see the marketing value behind it, it's more than fair enough. I obvioulsy believe in it and i also believe that the concept behind it, with different tweaks, systems and strategies, will become a standard soon. If it will not, i'll be glad to remain an isolated case ![]() |
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I'd outsource it.
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So you're saying a guy calls her number:
~phone rings~ {female voice in a heavy fillipino accent answers}"hello, this is Sabrina" ![]() ![]() ![]() Now that would be kinda funny! I know she isn't gonna do that, but the thought of that is kinda funny. ![]() |
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My condoleances.
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its a pretty simple fix to ensure its a member at least for that day.
Have your web guy or yourself load a image, say a star with a red S for monday a circle with a blue B for tues etc. when they call, just ask, 'whats todays Phonecall image?" and if they are really a member (or at least really current) they'll have the answer. its that simple. You make them verify the daily image at the beginning of the call. If they get it wrong just say 'so sorry' 'Join now or go look again Ill be waiting!' I'll ttyl kiss kiss. and hang up. |
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Id understand if you setup an SMS / Text massage service - charge them for your time ( software will allow you to send texts through your laptop )
Dont they drive you nuts? big props if you can handle it |
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hi Sabrina! it's been a long time. How've you been, sweetie?
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Sounds like a good idea.
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Crazy, but nice concept.
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great move!!!!
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