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Old 01-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #1
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AVN Rapes Transsexuals of Dignity and Appreciation

In regards to: The demeaning attitude and lack of concern for the transsexual genre of the adult industry from AVN

The opinions and ideas expressed hereafter are those of transsexual adult performer Brittany St Jordan and do not necessarily reflect those of any business entity which she may or may not be associated with.

This message has nothing to do with me winning or losing at AVN this year. Yes, it was great being nominated for Transsexual (TS) Performer of the Year but I knew there were other girls more deserving of the award. For this reason I was not expecting to walk away with an award this year. The driving force behind the writing, sending, and posting of this message is a compilation of various occurrences over the 2012 AVN award season. I personally try to refrain from interjecting myself into the post-award discussions of what was right and/or wrong with the current year's outcomes. However, since I was a nominee this year I had a much more vested interest in the AVN awards for the TS categories and feel that a few things need to be said.

From the moment the nominations for the TS categories came out there was a large portion of people wondering how Madison Montag was nominated. She is known in the TS world as being difficult to work with, unappealing and not well received by fans. For these very reasons she has had very little work this past year and was rumored that she announced she was retiring from adult entertainment after only being around for a little over a year. What about Sarina Valentina, Foxxy, Liberty Harkness, or any other girl who is actually embraced and recognized as top talent in the TS genre? Why were these girls overlooked by AVN for someone that is an outcast from the industry which she publicly and vehemently put down on a regular basis in an attempt to improve her own non-existent public image? (soundcloud DOT com/sisterdickradio/madison-montag - Madison Montag on Sister Dick Radio)

The 2012 TS Performer of the Year was once again Baily Jay, who was the winner of the 2011 AVN as well. What bothers me about this decision is the fact that since winning last year all Baily has done is gone silent online with almost no promotion or public interaction and only posts POV scenes of her and her boyfriend performing together. Fans on TS forums and various web sites who used to love Baily have been quite vocal this year about how bad her content is and that she is no longer the star she once was. There were plenty of girls on the list of nominees who had produced enough quality work this year that Baily should not have even been nominated again. A sympathy nomination for simply being a previous winner does little to add credit to the work other TS girls have done that clearly outshine Baily Jay and her POV only site.

Throughout the AVN Expo Miss Montag was often seen with people said to be associated with AEBN, who also happened to be one of the largest marketing contributors to the AVN events this year. So it is no surprise that when you visit the AEBN Shemale VOD site (vod.shemalepayperview DOT com/dispatcher/frontDoor?&refid=AEBNXXXXXX) there is a banner and background with Madison, who I remind you is despised by almost everyone in the TS genre, boldly displayed for all to see. There is also another TS performer sharing the the banner and background space there with Madison. That would coincidentally be your 2012 AVN TS Performer of the Year Baily Jay. Am I inferring that both Madison Montag's nomination and Baily's win were somehow influenced by the marketing power AEBN? Yes, I most certainly am. I do not have concrete proof like emails or text messages but when you see the theses two TS girls, who's legitimacy in the awards is beyond questionable, proudly displayed on a major monetary contributor's web site it does raise a lot of suspicion. Was it swaying the judges, tampering with votes or just outright wholesale purchase for both girls in order to increase traffic and revenue to AEBN? We most likely won't ever know.

With decisions like this being made it is really disheartening for the TS girls who work hard and put out quality content for various companies year after year to even feel that they have a fair chance of being selected as the top performer of the TS genre. Where is the incentive to be the best when the final decision is either based on business politics or poor ethics that do nothing to further the TS genre but only increase the flow of money to certain people who are more than likely absolutely clueless when it comes to anything dealing with the TS side of adult entertainment? Hopefully in future years there will be more oversight and quality control over the TS categories and not simply used as a bartering system for monetary gain. Maybe the system needs an audit of it's current ethics and practices so that these types of poor decisions won't be made again.

On to the next bullet point, TS performers being treated like second-class citizens in the world of adult entertainment. I often heard stories from people about how the adult world looks down on TS girls but I have met so many great people on all sides of the industry and didn't ever see it happen. That is until I was on the red carpet for this year's AVN award ceremony. Upon arriving there was a line of people waiting for their turn on the red carpet. It was a mix of fans and industry people from all sides. Then some of the bigger studios started showing up and were being taken right to the front of the line. This, in itself did not bother me. When someone behind me questioned the AVN employee ushering them in as to why they were going before everyone the response was "Nominees and presenters are getting to go to the front." Upon hearing his answer I politely notified him that myself and Jesse, who was with me, were both nominees for TS Performer of the Year. His response was, "Just wait your turn and you will get in there." So, both of us "nominees" waited with everyone else for three hours instead of getting the same courtesies extended to nominees who weren't TS performers.

Let me provide a brief history of AVN and their treatment of TS performers. For many years AVN did not even have a TS section of categories to vote on. That was until Joanna Jet got fed up with being ignored by an industry she was proudly a part of and felt that she, and the TS genre as a whole, deserved recognition from the top company presenting awards to adult performers for their accomplishments. Joanna's willingness to not take no for an answer led to AVN to finally including the TS genre amongst its awards and the main reason they are there today. This was a major step forward for the TS genre as a whole and major personal victory for Joanna, who is still known as one of the best and most influential TS stars in the adult industry.

This triumph has dwindled in current times however. Yes, there are TS categories to be voted on but there is one major flaw in the way the awards are presented. Any of the winners of any TS category are not given their awards at the actual AVN ceremony. Instead, what happens, is at the end of evening the names are listed on a screen for people to view as they are leaving and the award is then shipped to the winner. Yes, that is correct, AVN considers TS performers, producers, and distributors to be fetish related and therefore not included in the actual ceremony with the rest of their counterparts amongst the adult industry. So according to this line of thought, anyone regarded as TS related in the adult industry are not considered to be on par with everyone else. As long as this is the policy no TS performer or producer will ever be given given the same recognition as everyone else for doing the same, and sometimes more, work than their counterparts in the other genres of adult entertainment.

When it comes to working, TS talent have to perform on the same levels as the guys and girls who are in other areas of adult entertainment and sometimes are required to play both roles at the same time. Meaning that they have to be the pretty girl but also retain an erection and produce a popshot. Producers of TS content also put in the same level of professionalism into shooting, editing and distributing the content as they do straight and gay releases. So if the TS talent and producers are working just as hard on their content as everyone else what will it take for them to get the same level of recognition?

This is 2012 not 1985 and TS adult entertainment should no longer be the taboo bottom of the bucket industry sideshow that AVN makes them out to be. Any TS performer should feel that they have a shot at being recognized for their efforts just as any other talent at the AVN ceremony. Producers of TS entertainment and non-TS talent should not feel like they will be looked down on for working outside the box and creating great pieces of work with talented individuals. AVN really needs to reevaluate the way they view and present TS performers and producers to the word at large and be true industry professionals in regards to the way the TS categories are treated from here on out. If the people who are picking nominees and judging the TS categories are clueless about TS entertainment they should be replaced by people who can give a better informed decision based upon first-hand knowledge and not press releases or paychecks.

If you feel that TS performers and producers of TS content deserve the same level of respect as everyone else at the AVN awards then please contact Mr Mark Kearnes ([email protected] 818.718.5788) at AVN and let him know your thoughts and feelings. Please forward, repost, tweet and any other method of communication you can think of to spread this message so that we can spread the word about the AVN and their lack of respect for the TS genre of the adult industry.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #2
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:09 AM   #3
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post too long...

and we have TS performer posting here (AVN owned board) who get the same respect as everyone else

you're either a douchebag or not - penis or no penis

and you just sound like a sore loser
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:10 AM   #4
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #5
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I can't read more than 2 paragraphs about trannies.

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Old 01-24-2012, 11:12 AM   #7
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:12 AM   #8
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:17 AM   #10
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and we have TS performer posting here (AVN owned board) who get the same respect as everyone else

you're either a douchebag or not - penis or no penis

and you just sound like a sore loser

Leave brittany alone!
Sorry I couldn't resist doing that

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Old 01-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #11
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I had to google the names of the TS performers listed, oooo my. I could be fooled.
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another drama post
i bet she will not be nominated next year
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:21 AM   #13
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:22 AM   #15
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That's a picture of the world's smallest man playing "My Heart Bleeds For TS's" on a tiny violin.


Owwww and nobody likes her and errrrrrrrrr shes done nothing she's a bitch. Fuck me you're worse than bitchy gays and women roled into one.
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another drama post
i bet she will not be nominated next year
i've seen your sig all day today and still amazes me
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Shame your valid second bullet point is overshadowed by a first that reads like bitchiness and sour grapes..

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Old 01-24-2012, 11:28 AM   #18
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and this is what took, I mean RAPED their dignity from them....i would have expected there were so many other things, I'm surprised they had any dignity left for anything else to take it from them, I mean RAPE it from them.

fuck off.
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That post is exactly the kind of thing that gives trannies a terrible reputation for being drama queens.

Just be glad you aren't me. The year I won entrance into the Hall of Fame they pulled me and my date on the red carpet and didn't even interview me at all. They interviewed my girlfriend who wasn't even in porn until they realized she wasn't a porn star and pretty much just gaffed us - almost thought we were going to be pushed off the carpet and tossed out the door.

They wouldn't even let me on stage to make a drunken acceptance speech!

The nerve!

I want all our advertising dollars refunded immediately! And a personal apology from AVN! And maybe even a foot rub and pat on the back just to let me know that everything is ok and that they really didn't mean it.
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Leave brittany alone!
Sorry I couldn't resist doing that
Here is the leave Britney alone guy now:


He also has nude pics out there if you're so inclined... wants to do gay porn.
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Quite frankly, most of the players in this industry don't respect the women that are making their livelihoods possible - and where you find that sort of misogyny, you also usually find homophobia and intolerance towards trans people.

I don't expect you'll get many people here to even read what you're saying, because it's easier for them to just decide it's "wah wah another bitch whining" instead of realizing that any of them may be guilty of acting wrongly.

You can try and educate people, but especially on the internet - many people guilty of those sort of outdated modes of thinking have their priviliged heads so far up their own asses that they'll never even hear you.

It's a rough spot to be in, and you have my sympathy. At least know that some of us out there aren't total pieces of shit =)
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Am I the only one who read the whole thing?

My only comment is, you must be new to the AVN Awards and industry awards in general. They have always been political and financially skewed.
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You lost me at 'Rape' in the title.

For some reason I read your post anyway...

Its simple - There are 2 main 'groups' in adult. Gay and Straight.

The awards recognize those 2 groups. We blur the edges with TS, bisexual and even lesbian sites aimed at men, but the line has to be clearly drawn if you run something like AVN.

Are you a woman in a mans body or a man in a womans body or are you happy with what you got? - Make your mind up and enter the gay or str8 catergory. If you are that good at what you do whats the problem?

There is no third gender or another sexuality we need to recognize - and my TS mates would agree.

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Are you a woman in a mans body or a man in a womans body or are you happy with what you got? - Make your mind up and enter the gay or str8 catergory. If you are that good at what you do whats the problem?

There is no third gender or another sexuality we need to recognize.
Will all due respect Eddy - you are a fucking idiot.
Go and do some research or stick to spamming shit to make a buck and don't talk about what obviously are clueless about. EddyTheDog? Must be a mutt.
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That post is exactly the kind of thing that gives trannies a terrible reputation for being drama queens.

Just be glad you aren't me. The year I won entrance into the Hall of Fame they pulled me and my date on the red carpet and didn't even interview me at all. They interviewed my girlfriend who wasn't even in porn until they realized she wasn't a porn star and pretty much just gaffed us - almost thought we were going to be pushed off the carpet and tossed out the door.

They wouldn't even let me on stage to make a drunken acceptance speech!

The nerve!

I want all our advertising dollars refunded immediately! And a personal apology from AVN! And maybe even a foot rub and pat on the back just to let me know that everything is ok and that they really didn't mean it.


Sounds to me a little like AVN needs a refresher on the TS market.

But, with regards to the red carpet. Let's face it, most people wanna see the current female talent strut their stuff. No offence.
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I think we all know that AVN's awards are based generally on political and financial decisions but the point of Brittany's post (and here are the cliff notes) is that The Best Transsexual Performer doesn't even get to go up on stage, gets sidelined on the red carpet, is not chosen based on whether she's a good performer (in fact it's not even looked at, the winner for this year and last, isn't even a performer, just a solo model) but based on her PR or visibility in the industry/to AVN.
At another award show asked the people working in the niche for their advice on the nominees and engages those producers to get a better understanding of it.

Is it too much to ask for the winner to be presented on stage and have the same equality as mainstream performers?
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:09 PM   #39
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Am I the only one who read the whole thing?

My only comment is, you must be new to the AVN Awards and industry awards in general. They have always been political and financially skewed.
No you are not. I am not familiar with AVN awards so this might be par for the course for anyone but the treatment she received is complete bullshit and the assholes posting here are some kind of fucked up. GFY was the most accepting place on the planet when I joined, when did it get overwhelmed by the hate filled jackasses that are commenting here in droves? It's like they couldn't wait for someone to bash, one of the busiest threads I've seen in a long time.

Brittany St Jordan, sorry your experience sucked and sorry there are morons in this industry and on this forum.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:14 PM   #40
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Here is the leave Britney alone guy now:


He also has nude pics out there if you're so inclined... wants to do gay porn.
Wants to do porn? I'm pretty sure he's been doing so for almost a year now.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #41
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:21 PM   #42
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I think we all know that AVN's awards are based generally on political and financial decisions but the point of Brittany's post (and here are the cliff notes) is that The Best Transsexual Performer doesn't even get to go up on stage, gets sidelined on the red carpet, is not chosen based on whether she's a good performer (in fact it's not even looked at, the winner for this year and last, isn't even a performer, just a solo model) but based on her PR or visibility in the industry/to AVN.
At another award show asked the people working in the niche for their advice on the nominees and engages those producers to get a better understanding of it.

Is it too much to ask for the winner to be presented on stage and have the same equality as mainstream performers?
Did all the winners from the other niches get on stage for awards?

If they did then I take it all back - That would be horrid.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #43
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I think we all know that AVN's awards are based generally on political and financial decisions...
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:31 PM   #44
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I read the post and think the responses are immature and outright stupid. I have heard complaints about avn and ts for years and doesn't suprise me considering the misconceptions people have about ts in general and porn specifically.
Fuck the haters, keep making money
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:35 PM   #45
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shouldn't be surprising. look how many programs have thrown up shemale/tranny sites just to cash in on the niche and have no clue about the niche
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:45 PM   #46
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One of the things I learned in this industry is that there are seriously different strokes to different folks.

I had never seen so many gay and trans people in my life which kinda took a while for me to get used to. Kinda creeped my out first, now I take it all with a grain of salt. As long as you don't force yourself on me, small children or pets, do what ever the hell you want to do in my book. Made it real easy when my step daughter came out. No disappointment what so ever on my side except when dealing with others that don't get it.

The Emmys and Oscars and Tonys have different "classes" as well and I am sure that much of the awards is politics there as well as with AVN.

I myself don't and many others like me don't know enough about TG/TS to sell it right. Same can be said for gay and grandma traffic too.

Obviously you are bothered by this and your treatment and I cant imagine what you went through growing up and still have to deal with on a daily basis. I woudl hope it is getting better for you.

Rather than just slam those around you, try to educate us about the predicament and what you want would be best to do to promote you (you should have posted pictures of you and the "winners") and maybe we can all benefit.

At my first Adult Webmaster Conference, the man at the sign in desk was very disappointed when he met me. He claimed that with my handle he expected me to be TS/TG and I had to explain I like Sushi and the name of my boat what the "Sue She Boat" (since all boats are "she") was a good laugh. How many of you who never met me though I was a he/she or what ever you want to call them? Would be interested to know...

PS: I have the URL TrannyMart. One day I will sit down and build something on it. Not too excited about the edit and research aspect so someone make a killer offer so I can let it go!

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Did all the winners from the other niches get on stage for awards?

If they did then I take it all back - That would be horrid.
Winners in all the other genders got on stage.
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Thank you confirming the point of post. TS talent and producers get discriminated against simply for not being straight. It is this kind of uninformed ignorant bias that has prompted me to take a stand.

I am sure most of the tranny bashing is being done simply since this is an industry only board and not available to the general public. If you feel so strongly against TS equality in porn I invite you to take this discussion to the public on any social network of your choice.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:48 PM   #49
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Quite frankly, most of the players in this industry don't respect the women that are making their livelihoods possible
They need to respect themselves first. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054689
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Thank you confirming the point of post. TS talent and producers get discriminated against simply for not being straight. It is this kind of uninformed ignorant bias that has prompted me to take a stand.

I am sure most of the tranny bashing is being done simply since this is an industry only board and not available to the general public. If you feel so strongly against TS equality in porn I invite you to take this discussion to the public on any social network of your choice.
Very little bashing from above has to do with inequality... It has to do with whiny bitches moaning because they can't play the game. You weren't discriminated against because of gender issues, you were discriminated against because YOU don't matter. Deal.
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