Fabio Cappelo Resigns as England Manager

[Wilsy]

As the title said he has quit over the John Terry losing the captains Armband. My guess is Harry Redknapp will take the job after getting found not guilty today

[Poppy]

That seems like a big loss for England.

[Wilsy]

Yeah sucks especially so close to the euros. Harry Redknapp got found not guilty today of Tax evasion so i think this paves the way for him to come in tbh.. Every cloud has a silver lining as they say lol

[RandyD]

Never heard of the cunt

[v4 media]

Shame if Redknapp leaves spurs before the end of the season though, I think they're so desperate, they'd let him stay on at Spurs until May and get Pearce to manage the next few friendlies.

[EddyTheDog]

I think it was decided a long time ago that if Redknapp got off Cappelo would stand aside for him.

[DamageX]

Not a big loss really. He never managed to get the team to work well together.

[NewNick]

There is a god after all.

That unimaginative prick should have sent to the Tower after the humiliation of the last world cup.

[Biggie Smalls Web Writing]

Bad news for England..

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing

Bad news for England..

Why ??????

[Ross]

I wish he'd stayed on until after the Euros. I have a bad feeling Harry Redknapp is going to come in now and win the Euros. I wouldn't bet against him, the guy is a fantastic manager. He just gets the best out of people.

[Wilsy]

I think it could be a little disruptive to the team so close to the euros getting a new manager, but i never rated him as a manager BORING football. I always think that a Brit should manage the England team anyway. Martin oneill would be a great choice too i think

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing

Bad news for England..

Bad news, my ass. If anything, this is good news for England.

[fatfoo]

This is sudden news for England. Capello’s resignation came after an hour-long meeting with Football Association chairman David Bernstein. Capello was furious at what he felt was the undermining of his position. Something restricted his ability to shape the team. The interests of the coach were considered. These events put some positions in jeopardy.

[Scott McD]

Redknapp would be insane to take that job... Seriously!

[EroTechnology]

Originally Posted by Biggie Smalls Web Writing

Bad news for England..

As it`s been said above me, this is great news for English football fans. Capello was never a popular choice amongst supporters and made some bizarre decisions to put it mildly.

Perhaps his next career move could be an Italian > English interpreter.

[Wilsy]

Hopefully RedKnapp will come in and bring back Beckham for the euros before he retires officially.. Now that would be cool

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

....but i never rated him as a manager BORING football. I always think that a Brit should manage the England team anyway. Martin oneill would be a great choice too i think

...never rated him as a manager.

That is like Ferguson going to Italy for a couple of years doing so-so and someone saying "oh never rated him as a manager".

Capello won 2 CL, 7 Seria A titles (with three different teams), 2 La ligas.. and although disappointing at last WC he still has the best record of all time as England manager.

Too many average players and overrated primadonnas are England's real problem, but hey it's so much easier spurred on by the gutter press to always blame the manager.

[Jensen]

[v4 media]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

I think it could be a little disruptive to the team so close to the euros getting a new manager, but i never rated him as a manager BORING football. I always think that a Brit should manage the England team anyway. Martin oneill would be a great choice too i think

Yet he had the highest win ratio of any English manager. Fact is England haven't got good enough players. Although now with Hart at least the goalie's sorted out for a while, and there are some good young players coming though.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

...never rated him as a manager.

That is like Ferguson going to Italy for a couple of years doing so-so and someone saying "oh never rated him as a manager".

Capello won 2 CL, 7 Seria A titles (with three different teams), 2 La ligas.. and although disappointing at last WC he still has the best record of all time as England manager.

Too many average players and overrated primadonnas are England's real problem, but hey it's so much easier spurred on by the gutter press to always blame the manager.

I disagree - England had an excellent squad under Capello. But he never managed to get the team to gel.

The fact is that success as a club team manager does not automatically equate to success with a national squad.

With regards to "best record of all time", absolute bullshit. The basic numbers suggest a good record, in friendlies against weak opposition. But when it mattered against proper teams it was embarrasingly bad.

Lies, dam lies, and statistics.

[v4 media]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I disagree - England had an excellent squad under Capello. But he never managed to get the team to gel.

The fact is that success as a club team manager does not automatically equate to success with a national squad.

With regards to "best record of all time", absolute bullshit. The basic numbers suggest a good record, in friendlies against weak opposition. But when it mattered against proper teams it was embarrasingly bad.

Lies, dam lies, and statistics.

Never got the team to gel, what like Maclaren or Sven? just accept England may be in the top 10 but they're not the best.

3 or 4 players could get into most teams in the world, but that's about it.
English players need to go abroad to learn how to play in different leagues.

Scotland beat England in 67, did that make Alf Ramsey a shit manager?

Fact is the squad is not as good as Spain, Germany. Italy are masters at slowing the game, and Holland on a good day, {when they're not arguing with eachother} are great.

Spain world and euro champions lost to the USA, Switzerland and all those friendly losses since the wc. Does that make them shit?

At least we're not as bad as the Portugal team, they've got great players but always struggle.


May as well add Spurs got knocked out the Europa league, damn even Stoke are still in it. So will RedKnapp make a good manager?

[Jensen]

Originally Posted by NewNick

With regards to "best record of all time", absolute bullshit. The basic numbers suggest a good record, in friendlies against weak opposition. But when it mattered against proper teams it was embarrasingly bad.

Lies, dam lies, and statistics.

Not true at all

They won the qualifying group with ease, didn't lose a game, had a better score avg than most, excellent defensivly (0.63 avg) and england has moved from 8th to 5th in the fifa ranking under Capello.

That's excellent in my book...

I had a look at the latest friendlies against "weak" opposition that you mention:

15/11/11 FRI England 1 - 0 Sweden (rank 17)

12/11/11 FRI England 1 - 0 Spain (rank 1)

29/03/11 FRI England 1 - 1 Ghana (rank 26)

09/02/11 FRI Denmark 1 - 2 England (rank 11)

17/11/10 FRI England 1 - 2 France (rank 15)

11/08/10 FRI England 2 - 1 Hungary (rank 37)

30/05/10 FRI Japan 1 - 2 England (rank 19)

24/05/10 FRI England 3 - 1 Mexico (rank 21)

03/03/10 FRI England 3 - 1 Egypt (rank 36)

That is a excellent record (7-1-1) against pretty damn good countries..

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I disagree - England had an excellent squad under Capello.

Every squad has a couple of excellent player, but you are only as strong as your weakest link.

England has way too many players who are ok but not world class.

Who's the second striker? Crouch, Bent, Defoe... sorry not good enough at that level

Defense? Central partnership...Ferdinand, Terry, Cahill... first two are way past it third unproven... not good enough.

and who plays at right back? Walker, Jones.....

the midfield is slightly better but has no width Barry is crap, Johnson young walcott have a good game every three.

I am happy 'Arry will manage but keep telling yourself this is a great team and you'll be crying in your beer.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Every squad has a couple of excellent player, but you are only as strong as your weakest link.

England has way too many players who are ok but not world class.

Who's the second striker? Crouch, Bent, Defoe... sorry not good enough at that level

Defense? Central partnership...Ferdinand, Terry, Cahill... first two are way past it third unproven... not good enough.

and who plays at right back? Walker, Jones.....

the midfield is slightly better but has no width Barry is crap, Johnson young walcott have a good game every three.

I am happy 'Arry will manage but keep telling yourself this is a great team and you'll be crying in your beer.

I never said it was a great team, quite the opposite. Capello never got this squad to play as a team, and he has a talented squad at his disposal.

The very best managers create something greater than the sum of its parts. Its called a team. At club level Arry has consistantly done this and I would be quite happy to see him appointed. Other managers who have achieved this would be Big Sam when at Bolton, and the current Blackpool manager. Both have built succesful teams from cheap players, players on loan or players rejected by other clubs. They create something greater than the sum of its parts. (I am not suggested either for the England job)

However doing this at national level when you have a disparate group for a few days per year is very difficult. Lots of good club manager do not make this leap. Capello has never understood that he need to break the players club mentality. Players from the Manchester clubs not talking to players form the London clubs etc. Or the Lampard and Terry gang all sitting together at meal times.

Capello had as good a squad as any England manager - he never created a team.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Jensen

Not true at all

They won the qualifying group with ease, didn't lose a game, had a better score avg than most, excellent defensivly (0.63 avg) and england has moved from 8th to 5th in the fifa ranking under Capello.

That's excellent in my book...

I had a look at the latest friendlies against "weak" opposition that you mention:

15/11/11 FRI England 1 - 0 Sweden (rank 17)

12/11/11 FRI England 1 - 0 Spain (rank 1)

29/03/11 FRI England 1 - 1 Ghana (rank 26)

09/02/11 FRI Denmark 1 - 2 England (rank 11)

17/11/10 FRI England 1 - 2 France (rank 15)

11/08/10 FRI England 2 - 1 Hungary (rank 37)

30/05/10 FRI Japan 1 - 2 England (rank 19)

24/05/10 FRI England 3 - 1 Mexico (rank 21)

03/03/10 FRI England 3 - 1 Egypt (rank 36)

That is a excellent record (7-1-1) against pretty damn good countries..

FRIENDLIES.

Nuff said.

Your calling Ghana, Hungary, Egypt, Japan good countries ? We should beat them all easily.

Sweden and Mexico are better but should still be beaten by England.

France and Spain are the only decent teams in that group. Won one lost one - that proves what ?

But friendlies really do not count. When it mattered England were hopeless.

[NewNick]

[QUOTE=v4 media;18747128]Never got the team to gel, what like Maclaren or Sven? just accept England may be in the top 10 but they're not the best.

QUOTE]

Correct never got the team to gel.

Just because his Maclaren was shit does not mean Capello did a better job.

[Jensen]

Originally Posted by NewNick

FRIENDLIES.

Nuff said.

Your calling Ghana, Hungary, Egypt, Japan good countries ?

But friendlies really do not count. When it mattered England were hopeless.

Didn't it matter in the qualifier?

You can't ignore good numbers even though we see history repeating itself. The old manager was crap, the new manager will be excellent. Give it 2-4 years. Repeat. Same shit all over again.

On the other hand, good luck harry, I'm about to see the press conference @ Wembley.

[Slappin Fish]

Correct never got the team to gel.

Just because his Maclaren was shit does not mean Capello did a better job.

Steve McClaren - 2008 European Championship... failed to qualify
Fabio Capello - 2012 European Championship... 1st of group

Capello did a better job

This isn't the lower leagues or relegation battle, without talent a "geled" team isn't enough. Harry is doing well this season but it didn't always work out that well for him. A West Ham player i knew use to call me to go for a jog. Said Harry was never there for training and didn't bother about tactics, just showed up a game times.

Anyway, few months away from the Euro this could be good a thing, always a honeymoon period when the players try harder for a new manager.

[TrashyContent]

Ok First off, you can not say Capello is/was a crap manager... however his style maybe did not fit England... more continential style maybe... hence his success in Italy/Spain...

I am one who believes we should have a English manager... and Yes a massive front runner is Harry Redknapp... however I dont really see any other great candidates beyond Redknapp... so it is possible we would have to look at someone outside of the UK... Jose maybe lol

The team... well I dont believe we're great, but on our day have the potential to be great... and yes there are some good young english players coming through...

Can we win the Euros ? Yes of course... first thing you have to do is qualify, well we dont that... then a little luck on the day, avoid Spain till the final and who knows... To be fair I think Spain are the stand out team currently (stating the obvious) but I dont think there is much between the rest... Holland, Germany, Italy, France... all much of a muchness, one or two stand out players... and then average...

[CamTraffic]

This is bad news and is a big Loss.
You think Redknapp is gonna walk in and make them Champions?

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Steve McClaren - 2008 European Championship... failed to qualify
Fabio Capello - 2012 European Championship... 1st of group

Capello did a better job

This isn't the lower leagues or relegation battle, without talent a "geled" team isn't enough. Harry is doing well this season but it didn't always work out that well for him. A West Ham player i knew use to call me to go for a jog. Said Harry was never there for training and didn't bother about tactics, just showed up a game times.

Anyway, few months away from the Euro this could be good a thing, always a honeymoon period when the players try harder for a new manager.

Nonsense - seem to remember a team of very ordinary players winning the Euros in 2004.

A very organised team greater than the sum of its parts beat teams that had clearly not gelled !

[javinder_mn]

Stuart Pearce, aka 'Psycho' will be in temporary charge say the FA.

great, his last 8 home games as Manchester City FC boss: 8 games, 1 point, 0 goals. Defeats included Blackburn, Reading & Wigan.

[Wilsy]

Originally Posted by javinder_mn

Stuart Pearce, aka 'Psycho' will be in temporary charge say the FA.

great, his last 8 home games as Manchester City FC boss: 8 games, 1 point, 0 goals. Defeats included Blackburn, Reading & Wigan.

That's not the best news could have hoped for lol

[Si]

I hope Redknapp stays at Spurs, he has no experience at international level. Guus Hiddink would be my choice, give Harry a couple more years at Tottenham and then re-evaluate.

I do want an English manager but at the moment I can't see it.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Nonsense - seem to remember a team of very ordinary players winning the Euros in 2004.

A very organised team greater than the sum of its parts beat teams that had clearly not gelled !

Twice In history. Greece and arguably Denmark.

And like you said they were very organized, very defensive something Capello is good at. Harry has many qualities organization not one of them.

maybe we just have different definitions of "geling", to me it means togetherness not organization.

[Scott McD]

The English media are already showing why Redknapp would be crazy to take the job!

He's being hounded already, and he hasn't even taken the job yet. Watching Sky Sports News today and the relentless questions they were asking him was ridiculous. He should tell them to stick the job up their ass! He's doing amazing with Spurs, why he'd leave that to take England to the Euros, get fucked off Germany or whoever yet again, and then have everyone calling for him to be sacked within a year just doesn't make sense.

England always goes waaaaaayyy over the top with the International team, and fail miserably. Look at the last World Cup LOL!

He's better off as far away from all that as possible...