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Old 04-29-2012, 09:48 AM   #1
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Doomsday prepper shoots wife, daughter, then kills himself in his bunker (PICS)

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i always found people who stock up ammunition and dig bunkers a bit suspicious, but this guy was obviously nuts
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What an idiot... one thing is killing yourself or your wife.. but a kid... damn
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I find those people on that show are fucking nuts
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people who dig holes into the ground and call them bunkers are loons.

then to kill himself... fuck. what a loser. with all those weapons he should have gone out in a blaze of glory if he was planning to die.
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Sweet set-up. I'm thinking of buying the bunker from his estate and making it a Doomsday Bed & Breakfast.

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people who dig holes into the ground and call them bunkers are loons.

then to kill himself... fuck. what a loser. with all those weapons he should have gone out in a blaze of glory if he was planning to die.
so where's the point where family or colleagues should start to wonder and maybe suggest to seek help?
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Most likely a christian. They tend to kill their whole family when they want to die. Because they will go to heaven together.
There is a clear connection between doomsday preppers, christians and gunnuts.
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This guy reminds me a few people on gfy.
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Dirty F, what did Christians do to you to make you so angry?
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Anyone who believes in the Doomsday prophecy is nuts. IMO
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Dirty F, what did Christians do to you to make you so angry?

Well for one they have caused more misery and death than any other group in the history of mankind.
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Dirty F, what did Christians do to you to make you so angry?
Angry?

Am i saying something that is not correct in any way?
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One look at that hole he called a bunker is enough to sound the alarms that this man is unstable. There wasn't sane and rational thinking put into the design of that "bunker." It's a shame that his paranoia and delusion made him take his wife and child with him. This man needed a therapist, not a bunker.
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Most likely a christian. They tend to kill their whole family when they want to die. Because they will go to heaven together.
There is a clear connection between doomsday preppers, christians and gunnuts.
What the fuck are you talking about
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Really no clue whatsever what i'm talking about?
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His daughter was hot. I saw the interview with his coworkers and they said he was talking crazy about killing everyone on the top floor of there office building. That right there would have been enough for me to say something to someone.
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What the fuck are you talking about

History. Do you not pay attention?

However, based on the article, I would say this guy is far from a gun nut. His "ammo stockpile" would be eaten up by the average gun nut during a single day at the gun range. He had a few guns and a few more gun parts, nothing that suggests he was a gun nut. I know people who consistently drop 5k a week on guns and ammo. However, none of them talk about doomsday shit or stockpile water, fuel, and food. They just like shooting.

For a guy who has spent 8 years building his "fort" he sure didn't have it stocked very well. Besides the fact that he killed his family, the biggest concern I see here is that anybody could have found his bunker and had access to his guns and ammo. What kind of "survivalist" doesn't secure his shit better than this? Dude was clearly a different breed.
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Sweet set-up. I'm thinking of buying the bunker from his estate and making it a Doomsday Bed & Breakfast.

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Look into abandon mines and then file a claim on one of them.

It will save allot of the backbreaking work of digging a bunker and it much better than a bunker.....
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He should have started with himself.
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Looks like his bunker did not protect him from the real enemy.
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Sorry, I was out renting a backhoe.
That's a MUCH faster way to dig your bunker.
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There is one other religion that easily equals Christianity.
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If it took him 8 years to build that he must have been using one of those Rambo survival knives to do the digging. Or maybe one of those military shovels you stick in your pocket.

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so where's the point where family or colleagues should start to wonder and maybe suggest to seek help?
Once preparing becomes an obsession and "the end of the world" takes center stage in their life, you have a problem.
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I want to know how the people on these "Prepper" shows have the cash & time to build such elaborate "bunkers". The episode I saw last night should have been called "pimp my bunker"
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Aaaahahaha, it took me about 0.02 seconds to think the same thing after reading the thread title.

Responsible gun owner AaronResponsibleM also came to responsible mind, but responsibly, to be responsibly honest in a responsible way, he's more likely to responsibly off himself responsibly when responsibly making out (in a responsible way) with one of his (responsibly registered) firearms.

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Very sad. Sad that he shot his kid and his wife, but also sad that he or any of these other "preppers" live their lives this way, which is in total, complete fear. I tend to think gun nuts are the same. Having a couple of hunting rifles is ok and maybe I could possible understand a single hand gun. But machine guns? Sniper rifles? guns with extended clips? Ammunition stockpiles? Talk about terrified people. Very sad.
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How surprising, who could have seen that coming.
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people who dig holes into the ground and call them bunkers are loons.

then to kill himself... fuck. what a loser. with all those weapons he should have gone out in a blaze of glory if he was planning to die.
This guy was not a prepper, he was simply nuts. 8 years and that's what he had to show for it? Preppers do what they do to protect their family in case shit hits the fan. They don't kill their own family. Media will play this up and paint all preppers as nutjobs like this guy.

Also there is a HUGE difference between preppers and doomsday preppers. I for one think the 2012 doomsday shit is just that, a pile of shit. I prep for solar flares. It does not hurt to be prepared as long as all the shit you buy can be resold easy without losing money if it's never needed.
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Well for one they have caused more misery and death than any other group in the history of mankind.
Wrong. Atheist regimes in just a matter of a few decades killed more people than 2000 years of Christianity, or all religions combined, actually. Mao took out 70 million. Stalin took out 20 million. Sorry if the facts don't reflect well on your prejudiced ideas.
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It's appalling how most of you think being a "prepper" as he was labeled has anything to do with him killing his family and himself. If there was a news article that read "French Fries and Heroine found next to a dead man", half of you would blame the death on the French Fries, and the other half would say it was the mixture of the French Fries with the heroine.

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Scientology?
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Wrong. Atheist regimes in just a matter of a few decades killed more people than 2000 years of Christianity, or all religions combined, actually. Mao took out 70 million. Stalin took out 20 million. Sorry if the facts don't reflect well on your prejudiced ideas.
Hitler was catholic.
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If anything happens like these preppers hope for, can one of you guys with a gun please shoot me in the head?

I wouldn't want to survive.
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Correction: he was RAISED Catholic. He wasn't Catholic. He admitted to using religion to control the masses. Here are a few Hitler quotes:

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

"When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunized against the disease."

"Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."

"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

etc etc.

Yes, he said things that sounded "Christian" to many, but these quotes demonstrate he was definitely not. He was, in fact, an atheist.

And you'll notice, I didn't include his 10 million murders in the 90 million mentioned above.

Those who think "religion" has caused so much death usually cite "the Crusades and the Inquisition". The facts, however, show something different than what you might believe: between the Crusades and the Inquisition there were a little over 100,000 deaths spread across a period of 500 years. More people die every year in car crashes.

Again, in the last 2,000 years, all of the world's religions put together have not even come close to killing as many people as atheist regimes in just recent DECADES.
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Correction: he was RAISED Catholic. He wasn't Catholic. He admitted to using religion to control the masses. Here are a few Hitler quotes:

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

"When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunized against the disease."

"Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."

"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

etc etc.

Yes, he said things that sounded "Christian" to many, but these quotes demonstrate he was definitely not. He was, in fact, an atheist.

And you'll notice, I didn't include his 10 million murders in the 90 million mentioned above.

Those who think "religion" has caused so much death usually cite "the Crusades and the Inquisition". The facts, however, show something different than what you might believe: between the Crusades and the Inquisition there were a little over 100,000 deaths spread across a period of 500 years. More people die every year in car crashes.

Again, in the last 2,000 years, all of the world's religions put together have not even come close to killing as many people as atheist regimes in just recent DECADES.

When did he 'admit' to using religion to control the masses? After he put a bullet in his brain? How was he controlling the catholic church and priests in Germany that supported him? By telling them eliminating a race is a good thing? Those quotes you're pasting are made up bullshit by christians attempting to cloud history.

By the way, the good christian Hitler was responsible for 70 million deaths, not 10.
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When did he 'admit' to using religion to control the masses? After he put a bullet in his brain? How was he controlling the catholic church and priests in Germany that supported him? By telling them eliminating a race is a good thing? Those quotes you're pasting are made up bullshit by christians attempting to cloud history.

By the way, the good christian Hitler was responsible for 70 million deaths, not 10.
If you think the quotes are fake, google might be a good friend to visit.
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no that's people that did that, not just the christians...

pretending the rest of the world isn't as bad is you lying to yourself.
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Amazing that someone prepares for the "end" thinking it is going to be worse than life now. This is why those with the power won't ever tell us "if" they think something will happen simply because of panic. Start saying, "oh a big meteor may hit earth" - and the people will assume it will happen (not hearing "may") - and suddenly everyone is jumping off buildings.

I'd won't surprised if in December 2012 more people decide to kill themselves fearing what they don't know.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:35 AM   #49
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Apparently they should of been prepping against him
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:37 AM   #50
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That is a precarious prepper ...
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