Pornstar Platinum: Busted By The FaceBook Porn Police - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 06:43 AM

http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...k-porn-police/

Looks like the FaceBook porn police came along and whacked my Pornstar Platinum page. That sucks, it was a good run while it lasted. One more warning looks like I am out of here.

After their shitty IPO (which might drag down the entire economy of California), privacy concerns and their awesome timeline (which has been fraught with scams) ? I wouldn?t go pissing off any more FB users.

FaceBook has bigger problems than some guy posting some PG-13 pictures of Pornstars, which actually were engaging a lot of users.

Remember MySpace?

That?s right?

Nobody does.

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Theo · 05-31-2012, 06:45 AM

Apparently Serge got busy last night..

candyflip · 05-31-2012, 06:47 AM

No one likes the taste of spam in their Facebook.

lucas131 · 05-31-2012, 06:49 AM

please translate to engrish? did anybody hurt you?

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

No one likes the taste of spam in their Facebook.

Actually, I found just the opposite. That page was piling on like and shares like there was no tomorrow just by posting a 1 or 2 good PG-13 pics per day.

candyflip · 05-31-2012, 07:15 AM

I was just referring to this, Sorry.

xNetworx · 05-31-2012, 07:45 AM

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

I was just referring to this, Sorry.

Wow, what a hater. Since he reported my page, should I know report his group? What group was this anyway? I can't remember, but it's was one of the one HE SUBSCRIBED ME TO!!

I've never joined a Facebook group in my life!!!

I'm going to have to contemplate some kind of payback.

lucas131 · 05-31-2012, 08:06 AM

time to get out of child internet and lets get some work done

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

time to get out of child internet and lets get some work done

Kick me out of your group that I never asked to be in to start with -- that's fine. Fucking with my page is fucking with my business.

Can anyone list the companies this Serge and Michael Sperber are with?

If we are doing any business with them now, I will make sure cut it.

xNetworx · 05-31-2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

time to get out of child internet and lets get some work done

Says the guy on GFY. What the fuck is child internet?

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StripperCash

Says the guy on GFY. What the fuck is child internet?

Yeah, I thought that was a pretty dumb.

Then again, the guy is Polish. It probably took a lot of research to get out that one sentence of bad English.

Barefootsies · 05-31-2012, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Can anyone list the companies this Serge and Michael Sperber are with?

If we are doing any business with them now, I will make sure cut it.

lazycash · 05-31-2012, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Kick me out of your group that I never asked to be in to start with -- that's fine. Fucking with my page is fucking with my business.

Can anyone list the companies this Serge and Michael Sperber are with?

If we are doing any business with them now, I will make sure cut it.

How do you know Serge reported your FB page?

baddog · 05-31-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

After their shitty IPO (which might drag down the entire economy of California),

I have to presume that is sarcasm. How can you even begin to blame FB for CA's problems. I guess that is what you get when you vote in a loser that has already proven he sucks as a governor.

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

How do you know Serge reported your FB page?

I caught this here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVN Theo

Apparently Serge got busy last night..

And this screenshot.

There is no way the two aren't connected, as I am currently blocked out of my personal Facebook page too. Here is a message for Serge (SirGAY)

***START RANT***: I DIDN'T ASK TO JOIN YOUR GROUP ASSHOLE - YOU SIGNED ME UP - THAT'S SPAM TOO!

Couple things...

1. The group that got me banned was "Those Old GFYer's". People subscribe me to their industry groups all the time, no biggie. Just expect me to post a link here and there. I might join a discussion if it's interesting.

2. It's not like the link I posted WASN'T RELEVANT to the discussion, so it really wasn't spam to start with.

3. If someone commented, or had a question about the link I posted I would have returned to the group and answered their question.

4. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: I don't need to be part of a Facebook group to talk about GFY!! If I wanted to come to GFY, I'll just fucking come to god damn WWW.GFY.COM!!

*** HEY GFY MODS *** - WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE GROUPS THAT TAKE GFY PEOPLE AND ARE USING YOUR BRAND AND BRINGING THEM OVER TO THEIR FACEBOOK GROUP? WOULDN'T YOU RATHER SEE THE DISCUSSION GOING ON HERE? YOU COULD BE RACKING UP MORE PAGE VIEWS FOR AD IMPRESSIONS!! SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE STEALING YOUR TRAFFIC AND $$$$ TO ME!!

*** END RANT ***

You "Old GFYer's" are about to get your ass drug ON GFY with some good old fashioned XXXJay verbal venom the likes of which hasn't been seen in years...

Damn, it feel good to be a gangster.

sperbonzo · 05-31-2012, 09:38 AM

Dude, I took you off of the group, because the group is about just social stuff, not about posting business stuff, but I sure as hell never reported you to FB! I had asked you not to post business spam, and that if business came up in conversation that was fine, but this group was not about those kinds of Biz spam posts. You did it again the very next day, so I just removed you from the group, that's all. Why the hell would anyone report you to FB???

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xNetworx · 05-31-2012, 09:49 AM

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:23 AM

thank you xxxjay, I had constipation and now the shit flows smoothly. You have my permission to carry on with your whine. On your marks, get ready - go!

For the record:
I have no solid evidence that your mother is a whore, even though you sound like a fucking retard most of the time.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:24 AM

Scott Phillips But he had an amazing promise! An adult website that would make it rain like 2007! Last I remembered 2007 adult was dead and buried in a shallow grave, with webmasters working for food stamps... it was 1997 you douche!
15 hours ago · Like · 3

Roald · 05-31-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments

Scott Phillips But he had an amazing promise! An adult website that would make it rain like 2007! Last I remembered 2007 adult was dead and buried in a shallow grave, with webmasters working for food stamps... it was 1997 you douche!
15 hours ago · Like · 3

adult was dead in 2007?

epitome · 05-31-2012, 10:31 AM

Facebook pages even remotely associated with porn get deleted all of the time. You just rebuild them. Easy peasy. Doesn't even take someone reporting it to Facebook. They have tons and tons of paid mods/community monitors.

CarlosTheGaucho · 05-31-2012, 10:33 AM

Jay, this happens all the time.

I don't know almost anybody who wouldn't yet have their porn site shut down from FB.

Also our cam girl profiles that are all vanilla get shut down regularly.

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Dude, I took you off of the group, because the group is about just social stuff not about posting business stuff

I get it, I wouldn't be part of any project, group, or internet endeavor if there wasn't something I could gain, even if it's just peripheral.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

but I sure as hell never reported you to FB!

Sorry asshole, I don't eat lie soup...

20 hours ago, I had a Facebook page for Pornstar Platinum, now I don't. It was very vanilla and PG-13 with a good bit of "Likes". Looks like you were involved in some pretty heavy duty gloating. When you ban someone, it automatically walks you through the process of:

1. You can just ban them and provide no additional information.

2. You can ban them and provide additional information, such as inappropriate content, spam - which I am sure you did. Hence my business page gets removed. The time frame (page went down early last night or this morning), the motive, the weapon (spam report), and the proof (screenshots) are all plain to see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I had asked you not to post business spam, and that if business came up in conversation that was fine, but this group was not about those kinds of Biz spam posts. You did it again the very next day, so I just removed you from the group, that's all.

I'm sorry, and for that, I apologize profusely for my transgressions. To be honest, I didn't mean to post that as many times as I did. I am subscribed to so many groups I didn't subscribe to, I made a mistake and posted.

My bad, I'm sorry, please forgive me, it was an honest mistake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Why the hell would anyone report you to FB???

Already answered that question.

Snitch.

So why don't you answer my question?

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO STEAL MONEY AND TRAFFIC FROM GFY USING THEIR OWN TRADEMARK?

SINCE MICHEAL SPERBER IS SO 'RICH" I'M SURE HE COULD PAY UP THE LAWYER FEES IN AVN WANTED TO SUE?

You guys are the true spammers and bottom feeders.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:33 AM

no, it was me and I am behind the helicopters on their way to his house. xxxjay, throw all the dope NOW, I gave you advance warning. If you will not, we'll see you in 15 years.

Grapesoda · 05-31-2012, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...k-porn-police/

Looks like the FaceBook porn police came along and whacked my Pornstar Platinum page. That sucks, it was a good run while it lasted. One more warning looks like I am out of here.

After their shitty IPO (which might drag down the entire economy of California), privacy concerns and their awesome timeline (which has been fraught with scams) ? I wouldn?t go pissing off any more FB users.

FaceBook has bigger problems than some guy posting some PG-13 pictures of Pornstars, which actually were engaging a lot of users.

Remember MySpace?

That?s right?

Nobody does.

If you would like to keep track of Pornstar Platinum, follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/pstarplatinum

I was banned from dpreview for posting a 'headshot' of lexi bell

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

You guys are the true spammers and bottom feeders.

question to the guys who fucked xxxjay in the ass:
does he swallow?

sperbonzo · 05-31-2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I get it, I wouldn't be part of any project, group, or internet endeavor if there wasn't something I could gain, even if it's just peripheral.

Sorry asshole, I don't eat lie soup...

20 hours ago, I had a Facebook page for Pornstar Platinum, now I don't. It was very vanilla and PG-13 with a good bit of "Likes". Looks like you were involved in some pretty heavy duty gloating. When you ban someone, it automatically walks you through the process of:

Try creating a group, putting someone on it, and then removing them. All it asked was, "do you want to remove them from the group? You click yes. It also asks if you want to "ban them permanently?" I did not click that. This is not like blocking someone that you are "friends" with. There is no question about the reason.

Look up what I'm saying if you don't believe me. Google "how to remove someone from a FaceBook Group"

.

Nickatilynx · 05-31-2012, 10:42 AM

Moment of sense here.

Do you not think the word "pornstar" is on FB's filter?
Then subject to manual review?

Then deleted?

Your accusationms are making you look like well..not a very good spammer lol

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Facebook pages even remotely associated with porn get deleted all of the time. You just rebuild them. Easy easy. Doesn't even take someone reporting it to Facebook. They have tons and tons of paid mods/community monitors.

Yeah, I realize that. Just the timing is fishy and it was my personal account, which was associated with that group.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments

Scott Phillips But he had an amazing promise! An adult website that would make it rain like 2007! Last I remembered 2007 adult was dead and buried in a shallow grave, with webmasters working for food stamps... it was 1997 you douche!
15 hours ago · Like · 3

1997 was my first year and it was great. 2007 was also great. Hell, 2012 still ain't that bad, unless you are a whining Emo queer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

adult was dead in 2007?

Right. The fact that we are posting right here on GFY means we have some foothold in the business.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:46 AM

please stop, guys.
Like I said earlier:
I have him banned on FB, My Twat, My Spice, USPS, UFO, FBI, Police Academy, UN
and send black helicopters and Vice Squat.

To prove my powers - he won't be able to post on GFY for another 5 mins -
watch!

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Try creating a group, putting someone on it, and then removing them. All it asked was, "do you want to remove them from the group? You click yes. It also asks if you want to "ban them permanently?" I did not click that. This is not like blocking someone that you are "friends" with. There is no question about the reason.

Look up what I'm saying if you don't believe me. Google "how to remove someone from a FaceBook Group"

.

Why don't you answer my question about how it feels to leach traffic and $$$ off GFY? All of your same "Social" conversations could be happening here.

OldJeff · 05-31-2012, 10:48 AM

https://youtube.com/embed/8rh6qqsmxNs

CyberHustler · 05-31-2012, 10:49 AM

You need to develop a new and improved spamming strategy.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff

https://youtube.com/embed/8rh6qqsmxNs

classic! This idiot IS both!!!!

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

You need to develop a new and improved spamming strategy.

Call it what you want, it's all internet marketing. I already realize that Facebook keeps porn on a short leash. I get it. This isn't my first page I've had shut down.

I really didn't even think there was anything to it till someone posted that screenshot, then add in the timing...then maybe you can see where my head was at.

sperbonzo · 05-31-2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Why don't you answer my question about how it feels to leach traffic and $$$ off GFY? All of your same "Social" conversations could be happening here.

This group is for people that have been in the business for a long long time, and most of whom have actually retired from the biz or moved part or all of their business into other arenas. I'm not taking anything away from GFY.... hell, I"m getting people to look again at it that haven't been on in YEARS.

And I specifically am making the group NOT about business..... So I'm not making any $ off of this site, it was just a place for old-timers like me, that's all.

I'm actually shocked and sorry that FB knocked you off. I had nothing to do with it, and I would definitely NOT want that to happen. If I had a problem with porn or free speech why would I be in this business since the internet was a baby for god's sake?

Chill....

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Confined · 05-31-2012, 10:57 AM

Spit out my coffee thanks a fucking lot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by StripperCash

llama pic

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

This group is for people that have been in the business for a long long time, and most of whom have actually retired from the biz or moved part or all of their business into other arenas. I'm not taking anything away from GFY.... hell, I"m getting people to look again at it that haven't been on in YEARS.

And I specifically am making the group NOT about business..... So I'm not making any $ off of this site, it was just a place for old-timers like me, that's all.

I'm actually shocked and sorry that FB knocked you off. I had nothing to do with it, and I would definitely NOT want that to happen. If I had a problem with porn or free speech why would I be in this business since the internet was a baby for god's sake?

Chill....

.

Ok, I'll accept that.

BettingHandle · 05-31-2012, 11:06 AM

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

then maybe you can see where my head was at.

sperbonzo · 05-31-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Ok, I'll accept that.

:D

xxxjay · 05-31-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

:D

Sorry about that. I was in the wrong. The timing, the fact that page had been good forever, and the screenshot that was posted made me think there was more going on than there actually was.

My bad.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Sorry about that. I was in the wrong. The timing, the fact that page had been good forever, and the screenshot that was posted made me think there was more going on than there actually was.

My bad.

you see boys what happens after I send helicopters to one;s house and they have to destroy all the dope?

Behave yourself, children, or you end up like xxxjay with
bunch of apologies, no dope and sorry ass.

Class dismissed.

Makaveli · 05-31-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments

you see boys what happens after I send helicopters to one;s house and they have to destroy all the dope?

Behave yourself, children, or you end up like xxxjay with
bunch of apologies, no dope and sorry ass.

Class dismissed.

You're pretty funny for an old fart.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-31-2012, 12:40 PM

ADG

homegrownmof · 05-31-2012, 01:12 PM

cant we all just get back to the pissing match?

Jman · 05-31-2012, 01:31 PM

Serge, you are killing me here.

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makaveli

You're pretty funny for an old fart.

attention moderators:

he is making fun of my dick! Again!

No respect for old dicks with battle scars on it!

Please either ban him or send me a new dick! or you will hear from my lawyers team:

NoComments · 05-31-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jman

Serge, you are killing me here.

Jay, killing you "out there" would have been much more painful! Thanks god this is only GFY

I spoke with "our lawyer" few days ago, she is doing fine!

05-31-2012, 06:43 AM	#1
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,483	Pornstar Platinum: Busted By The FaceBook Porn Police http://www.xxxjay.com/index.php/2012...k-porn-police/ Looks like the FaceBook porn police came along and whacked my Pornstar Platinum page. That sucks, it was a good run while it lasted. One more warning looks like I am out of here. After their shitty IPO (which might drag down the entire economy of California), privacy concerns and their awesome timeline (which has been fraught with scams) ? I wouldn?t go pissing off any more FB users. FaceBook has bigger problems than some guy posting some PG-13 pictures of Pornstars, which actually were engaging a lot of users. Remember MySpace? That?s right? Nobody does. If you would like to keep track of Pornstar Platinum, follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pstarplatinum __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

05-31-2012, 06:47 AM	#3
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05-31-2012, 07:15 AM	#6
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05-31-2012, 09:38 AM	#17
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,739	Dude, I took you off of the group, because the group is about just social stuff, not about posting business stuff, but I sure as hell never reported you to FB! I had asked you not to post business spam, and that if business came up in conversation that was fine, but this group was not about those kinds of Biz spam posts. You did it again the very next day, so I just removed you from the group, that's all. Why the hell would anyone report you to FB??? . __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

05-31-2012, 10:33 AM	#23
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,508	Jay, this happens all the time. I don't know almost anybody who wouldn't yet have their porn site shut down from FB. Also our cam girl profiles that are all vanilla get shut down regularly. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

05-31-2012, 06:45 AM	#2
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05-31-2012, 06:49 AM	#4
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	please translate to engrish? did anybody hurt you?

05-31-2012, 07:45 AM	#7
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05-31-2012, 08:06 AM	#9
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	time to get out of child internet and lets get some work done

05-31-2012, 09:49 AM	#18
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445

05-31-2012, 10:23 AM	#19
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,954	thank you xxxjay, I had constipation and now the shit flows smoothly. You have my permission to carry on with your whine. On your marks, get ready - go! For the record: I have no solid evidence that your mother is a whore, even though you sound like a fucking retard most of the time.

05-31-2012, 10:24 AM	#20
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,954	Scott Phillips But he had an amazing promise! An adult website that would make it rain like 2007! Last I remembered 2007 adult was dead and buried in a shallow grave, with webmasters working for food stamps... it was 1997 you douche! 15 hours ago · Like · 3

05-31-2012, 10:31 AM	#22
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05-31-2012, 10:42 AM	#29
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05-31-2012, 10:46 AM	#31
NoComments Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,954	please stop, guys. Like I said earlier: I have him banned on FB, My Twat, My Spice, USPS, UFO, FBI, Police Academy, UN and send black helicopters and Vice Squat. To prove my powers - he won't be able to post on GFY for another 5 mins - watch!

05-31-2012, 10:48 AM	#33
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