MultiXXX

Do I really need that? Who says? Does not the text-link, banner and watermark tell it's story?

http://www.multixxx.com/videos/20215...ver-the-water/

So, AK, are you busy working with video tubes too?

AdultKing

I've posted links to several full length videos on your site, you have removed one (now 404) and left three remaining. So my question stands, do you have a license to publish that content ?

As for tubes, you might want to educate yourself:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1149054

MultiXXX

I do hope that those reporting potential copyright violations will give us at least 24 hours to check the uploader and the content, and contact the studio in question, to make sure we do the right thing. We do have several money-making solutions here. I am confident we all will end up happy, except maybe you and the dmca agents.

AdultKing

So I see you have removed all those full length videos I posted.

What I will do is give you 24 hours to remove any content from that website that you (a) do not have a license to distribute and (b) have not been provided by content owners as promotional content and (c) do not violate 2257.

Should that not occur then we'll take appropriate steps.

There is at least one video on the site that we have detected as containing content which may not be legal, I suggest you take a very close look at what you're hosting. We have already made a report about this video to the CyberTip line (NCMEC).

MultiXXX

Really? Do you mind: http://www.multixxx.org/misc/contact

AdultKing

It shouldn't be up to us to police your site, you should be doing it.

We've taken the only action appropriate in the circumstances.

MultiXXX

They have been disabled while I talk to the studios in question. Anyway, I am more convinced now than ever that you don't work for the industry, but is more like a donation scammer, that in the end will have done more harm than good. Time will show...

AdultKing

I'd refer back to this post and take action, as I have already had reports from several content owners of content that is unauthorised and infringing on your site.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20214384&postcount=7364

It is obvious to us that you're a pirate, you do not have authorisation for content that appears on your site and have no regard for the legality of the content on your site.

You can call me whatever you like, however you're playing with fire here on more than one front.

MultiXXX

...but you don't forward them to site operators or ISPs, do you? Interesting business model you have there. Sounds like you intend to do this forever. Well, I would find it boring hanging around in forums asking for money all the time, even while watching pirated porn, so I'll go do some work in the real life now.

AdultKing

We do not send DMCA notices, there are several companies that do this.

What we do is target the financial services, hosting services, domain registrations, advertising services and other services used by pirate sites.

We also report illegal content to the appropriate authorities so they can carry out their own investigations.

We usually will not contact a site. Usually our procedure is to make an assessment of whether a site is a piracy site and if it is then we target the services associated with that site.

Our aim is not to remove individual pieces of content, it is to terminate the site itself. The most effective way to do this is to deprive that site of services, financial, domain related, hosting related or otherwise.

MultiXXX

You are just trying to organize a very small piece of the Internet the way you like it. I am not sure if that's the way I like it, but as long as you can find someone willing to sponsor your projects...

WDF

What you like or do not like is not a concern of ours, our concern is to put people who infringe on copyright/intellectual property rights of others, distribute illegal content, and/or support piracy online out of business.

If that does not agree with your business model I suggest you find a new business model.

You came here professing to be legit. After a brief look into your activities online we have found this is simply not true. You were told you would be exposed for what you are, a pirate, and it happened. You now have 0 (Zero) credibility here and anyone that uses a search engine can find all this publicly displayed information about you.

Did you inform your users of the multiple times your site was hacked and your database was compromised?

Do your users know their information in the form of your sites database are floating around on the net?

Do they know their information is being distributed on the net and will soon end up in the hands of people that may choose to pursue legal actions both against you and them?

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AdultKing

Any such database is tainted and cannot be accessed, viewed or used legally.

A database of users from a hacked website is the product of a criminal offence. The accessing of that data is a criminal offence. The distribution of that data is a criminal offence.

Unlawfully obtaining or accessing personal data is a criminal offence under section 55 of the Data Protection Act 1998. (United Kingdom)

Under section 308H of the Crimes Act, computer-related offences come with harsh penalties, including imprisonment. (Australia)

18 U.S. Code § 1030 - Fraud and related activity in connection with computers (USA)

I could go on but you get the point.

It does not matter if data is left in the open, if you access it without authorisation you are guilty of a very serious criminal offence.

NukePiracy

This is indeed true. But at the same time it's a grey area as I happen to know many law enforcement agency's worldwide do in fact use data from leaks such as this. If it's research or to prosecute in some circumstances it can be used.

I happen to know one such data leak lead to arrests pretty recently, It wasn't the leaker/hacker it happened to be the users contained in the data.

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AdultKing

It is not a grey area, it is positively clear beyond any possibility for mis-understanding.

Law enforcement are permitted, by the legislation that covers their regulatory standing, to access certain data under particularly strict conditions and usually with the oversight of the judiciary (e.g.: warrants, oversight orders) and there are also checks and balances that are in place to ensure such data is not mis-used.

Be under no misapprehension that handling, communicating, viewing or otherwise using such leaked data, databases that are not secured properly, any form of data whereby the owner or custodian of the data did not intend public consumption, is an offence and punishable by very heavy penalties.

It is for this reason that our project only uses open source data. WDF's veiled threat to MultiXXX about databases he may have controlled that have been hacked is well outside the bounds of what I deem acceptable - I don't want such threats in this thread (implied or direct) and I completely reject the motivation, declaration and possibility that such data may be used inappropriately or unlawfully.

WDF

Well it looks as if we have another misunderstanding here or perhaps it is a misinterpretation.

I never said I controlled any databases owned by multixxx, but I did state that they are out there floating on the net. Anyone can access them at this point in time if they try.

I did say there was evidence the sites had been hacked. As I have said many times before I am no hacker.

I am not sure how anyone can make a threat (implied or otherwise) when stating known facts. If LEO's or Officers of the court review this information there are many cases that could be made from it, Legal Actions.

Perhaps it is a simple misunderstanding, perhaps it isn't. I stand by my statements and have no plans to apologize for them or retract them. I just find it hard to believe that what I posted was taken so far out of context.

It is unfortunate that you would look upon this as unacceptable AK. We were just beginning to feel comfortable with you again.

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AdultKing

You may have misunderstood my sentence, perhaps is could have been worded better.

I was talking about databases that MultiXXX controlled, not implying that you had possession of or controlled them. A simple matter of grammar - I should have phrased it better.

You stated Do they know their information is being distributed on the net and will soon end up in the hands of people that may choose to pursue legal actions both against you and them?

To my mind, this seemed and read like an implied threat. Others may have read it differently but I can only call it as I see it from my perspective.

You were not taken out of context and at no time did I accuse you of impropriety. I merely pointed out the ramifications of handling data that was tainted.

If you want me to be frank with you, I completely agree with your stated aims to wipe out piracy. However I have always been uncomfortable with and disagree with the releases of data that you guys have made via Twitter and other means.

I have no issues with your end goal, it's just the way you've presented yourselves as getting there that I have reservations about.

There's also a favourite Humphrey Appleby quote that I like to recant "He that would keep a secret must keep it secret that he hath a secret to keep.".

WDF

I believe this was all just a misunderstanding or misinterpretation as I suggested.

As I have stated before our past operational tactics have been greatly refined. Yes we made some poor decisions, in the end our objective was achieved. Would we have done it exactly the same as we had, not so much. Would we duplicate every step if it was required for the desired goals, absolutely.

I would rather take liberties to achieve my goals and apologize for issues with my tactics later then never accomplish anything.

Tell me Robert have you never done something that displeased someone? Did they forgive you? Did you deserve their forgiveness?

You do not need to answer those questions, I am sure you realize they are rhetorical.

Someday, hopefully, you will forgive our early indiscretions and we can enjoy an open co-operative association of sorts. I believe it will be more beneficial then detrimental to both our groups goals.

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AdultKing

Please understand that I am willing to engage with anyone and everyone on common goals, I was not trying to be adversarial, I was only trying to outline our standards for the exclusive use of open source intel and the dangers inherent in the very tempting proposition to use tainted information.

Everyone in this fight is on a learning curve constantly, the goal posts move all the time, I am not laying blame, only frankly outlining my concerns so that we understand each other and can move forward.

Press Release Pro

You are fucking disgusting you piece of shit.
You are aware of potential CP being distributed yet you chose not to report it to the site owner even when he request you to point it out.

I was against your methods before but you have just proven how much of a low life scumbag you are. You would rather see this continue floating on the net just to prove your point. It makes you no better than the people who upload it.

I know how NCMEC works. Does your reporting screen come with a private login and look anything like mine ? Do you get all hashtags that's being reported ?



Probably not, because you seem to 90% bullshit. You have just proven my point from the very beginning. Piss on every tree in the forest, sooner or later one will tip over.

Crawl back under your rock before you end up fucking up the online adult industry completely.

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AdultKing

Abuse, ranting and swearing is certainly going to further your position

Nobody takes you seriously, you have adopted a position of opposition to our project, that has been noted, so we view everything you say through that prism.

Press Release Pro

How about you post proof or be banned.
I know posting CP is not possible so provide the file hash-tags for verification purposes.
I can and will verify them

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AdultKing

You're not a part of our organisation, we won't be sharing data with you.

We have our own established procedures, if you do not like them then take it up with the complaints department at [email protected]

Press Release Pro

You are part of the GFY community and agreed to follow the rules.
The rules are very clear. I guess they do not apply to you

Remember a few pages ago you asked what kind of questionable methods you use ? I didn't know it was established procedures, that's good to know

Stay on path and make your noise so you can collect a few more $ from some people in distress. I got what I needed

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AdultKing

Yes and I followed Rule #8 to the letter.

Perhaps you should think before you type

MultiXXX

Well, be careful arguing that hosts that pay can also be useful for the industry. You will just end up receiving threats and be accused of pushing CP. I have no intention of trying to correct all the mistakes these guys make, but I will leave this thread where I started: This campaign against "file lockers" has become a threat to free speech and to the Internet itself.

AdultKing

File Lockers that pay for uploads are not useful to the industry as without exception they host pirated and unlawful content. Legitimate cloud storage services do not have the same level of piracy or unlawful content that PPD or PPS File Lockers do - the reason is that when you pay people to upload content you encourage them to upload anything.

The campaign against File Lockers is no threat to free speech. In fact it is the file lockers that threaten free speech by encouraging the infringement of rights and reactions from Government to deal with sites such as them.

The only threat is to pirates like you.

BlackAndBlue

Seriously--there should be a LIKE button for posts on GFY. AdultKing

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MultiXXX

They pay for downloads. Big players in the software and gaming industry are already profiting from this, and now some small adult studios will do the same.

AdultKing

So you keep saying, however I am sure that AutoDesk are not participating, or Ableton, or Apple, or Pinnacle, or Corel.......









This is straight out piracy - there is no co-operation with file lockers from companies who sell software - it would be an immediate death sentence for them as the moment software was shared it would be imported by other uploaders into other file lockers and the software companies would get nothing.

To put things simply, you're advocating the protection of an industry that is systematically ripping off rights holders. You have certainly not shown any serious examples of legitimate companies operating in this space and more-over you have been found to have pirate videos on your own site.

By the way, your 24 hour deadline is approaching before we review your tube - I'd be very certain to meet it if I were you.

MultiXXX

You should get your own banner: "This porn has been watched and approved by AdultKing. I accept donations via PayPal".

AdultKing

I know that you think you're being funny, however there's nothing funny about your theft of copyright content.

MultiXXX

You see, I know I am doing the right thing now, helping big and small studios pushing their legal content to the search engines, not even charging two cents for it. Some might even look at it as a smart way of fighting piracy, but I am just in it for the money. Exporting legal content to the file hosts will be a part of it, since I also believe that blogs, forums, social networks, free content search engines, etc, are brilliant marketing channels, and a way of generating extra income in some hard to reach markets. You can like it or not.

AdultKing

So you've removed all the pirated content from your tube then ?

MultiXXX

I just noticed that someone has been using promo-vids from Digital Playground to promote LiveJasmin. Strange. I'll look into it, and I have made sure some DMCA agents do the same. Everyone is free to contact me here: http://www.multixxx.org/misc/contact

AdultKing

You didn't answer my question.

Have you removed all the pirated content from your tube ?

MultiXXX

You can let me know her:

http://www.multixxx.org/misc/contact

so I immediately can make the uploader or studio send me the promo vid, and add text links and banners:

Anyway, I guess that is called false watermark spamming, and it's seems to be very popular among the indians. We can discuss that later in another thread.

AdultKing

So suddenly faced with having to remove a whole lot of infringing content from your site you want to talk privately ?

Your website contains a lot of pirated content, content which we believe you put there.

Here's some examples of pirated content that you have not removed.

http://www.multixxx.com/videos/37/ca...lacy-channing/

http://www.multixxx.com/videos/240/casting-xenia-lova/

http://www.multixxx.com/videos/79/an...-in-pantyhose/

http://www.multixxx.com/videos/80/anal-sex-in-panthose/

We explained clearly to you that you would not like the outcome if you did not remove all of the pirated content from your site. It is plainly obvious you are a thief.

MultiXXX

No, absolutely not, I am just showing you the fastest way of removing, replacing or adding content.

AdultKing

When you started MultiXXX.com you obviously created the first account which is administrator.



Then you created an account called Anonymous



Then you created an account called sexyvids and uploaded a whole lot of pirated content to get your tube started.



Then, as as previously been noted your relationship to the site INTPORN, you just happened to have an INTPORN account registered as user number 4.



And so your path to piracy on MultiXXX.com began.

This is your last warning. Remove the pirate videos from your website or we will take action against it and you will not like the outcome.

MultiXXX

Listen, I really don't know which videos you think are pirated or not, but it happens to be my job to clean up after the test period, and I now have some DMCA agents to help me. You can also contact me with any problems you might find, but understand that's not your style.

What I do know is that we import a few thousand legal videos everyday, and that this number is about to rise drastically when the new conversion servers are up and running.

AdultKing

Every video on this account is copyright infringing, remove them.

http://www.multixxx.com/members/3/public_videos/

You created this account and you uploaded those videos.

Captain Kawaii

AK, I noticed most of the Asian/Japanese videos have watermarks of sites I have never heard of. The watermarks don't match the studios. And they are all so looooooooong. Strange.

AdultKing

None of the Hentai stuff is licensed, it's all infringing.

As for other videos, watermarks have been altered or removed and some videos include urls for sites which I would not recommend anyone visit - there's a few that are very dodgy.

I am currently talking to a couple of people, expect action will come sooner than later.

AdultKing

It's worth noting that user number 3 has changed from username sexyvids to MOFOS

Before user 3 screenshot.



After user 3 screenshot.

MultiXXX

That's what I noticed too, and called "false watermark spamming". The first vids I saw led to the right affiliate program, but then I just spotted one that didn't. This will of course lead to user banning.

AdultKing

What about all the full length videos that you uploaded that still appear on your site ?

Don't come in here talking about "users", fix your own problems first.

Another "user" where every single video is infringing.

http://www.multixxx.com/members/68/public_videos/

29 pages of full length videos - all stolen.

MultiXXX

This is great. Can you please help me with some hentai users where the watermark doesn't lead to the right affiliate program too?

AdultKing

There is NO hentai material that you have a licence to display.

All of it - and be sure we have indexed it - is infringing - so if it's hentai then remove it.

I must say, you're fooling nobody with this sham "user uploaded" crap. You or people you have hired have uploaded much of this full length content - we can prove this and will do so when we proceed to take down your site - in the meantime another account where every single full length video is stolen is:

http://www.multixxx.com/members/90/public_videos/

MultiXXX

These guys are using server side scripts to upload. Most of the servers are located in Europe and US. I guess all the tubes have the same problem stopping them.