AdultKing

We're being hit by massive DDOS attacks right now, can people please let me know if you can access the websites.

http://coldcopy.com.au
http://hotcopy.com.au
http://stopfilelockers.com

thanks

johnnyloadproductions

Accessible here in the States!

AdultKing

Great, we're managing DDOS fine now it seems.

Here are some more concerned people worried about file lockers closing

http://sibsoft.net/forum/file-share-...oon-t4805.html

AdultKing

The worst file locker I have found so far, the search descriptions of the content were too disturbing to post online. Sickening stuff.

http://stopfilelockers.com/asfile-il...-for-uploaders

Nautilus

Excellent new articles AK, very impressive.

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AdultKing

Success! Paypal has blocked Squillion!!!!!

One down, many to go.

Jel

nice work man

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Nice work AK!

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Nautilus

Are you sure? I just checked and paypal seems to be working fine there:

http://www.squillion.com/premium.html

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astronaut x

Squillion still seems to be accepting paypal.

AdultKing

It seems Squillion have switched Paypal accounts, their original one is on hold pending investigation.

This morning I spoke to Julie Bainbridge, from Paypal in Singapore, she advised me most of the sites on the http://coldcopy.com.au websites had lost their Paypal accounts. However together on the phone and our respective computers went to some of the sites and found they were accepting Paypal - which indicates these companies will switch in new Paypal accounts to replace suspended ones.

Julie Bainbridge has promised to keep dialogue open while this issue is addressed and as such I am beginning to believe that Paypal is seeing this as a real problem. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be.

Personally I believe Paypal should include File Lockers as banned products in their AUP, right alongside gambling and adult. Let's see if we can convince them to do that because as things stand now they will deal with these on a case by case basis.

See my update on the Paypal conversation here: http://coldcopy.com.au/paypal-merry-...aints-ignored/

AdultKing

Squillion have just had their Paypal account placed in review, so they still receive payments but cannot withdraw from the account. Their uploading affiliates are pissed off!

SmutHammer

Awesome work

AdultKing

Mastercard and Visa are next on the hit list.

By the time I finish these sites will have to accept a brown paper envelope of rubles to pay for their thieving grubby sites.

notjoe

I supported you until this. That is like saying, if a man has not committed a murder today he might commit one tomorrow. Lets lock him up now.

You've crossed the line from doing something respectable to being on a witch hunt and taking down legitimate business. Why should legitimate businesses suffer the same fate as businesses who operate illegally?

Some businesses produce child and animal porn. Maybe ALL porn should be banned? That is exactly what you're implying and out to accomplish (except with file lockers).

19teenporn

Need to allow to add comments to the blogs with facebook.

Then we all comment with facebook, our comments show in our fb timelines, our friends see it, and it goes viral like crazy!


So. Adultking, add the facebook comment and lets all of us comment like crazy!

johnnyloadproductions

To get anything done on this scale you have to be radical!

Dropbox doesn't provide any incentive to share all your content with others and get payed does it.
Dropbox makes you want to pay (for more space beyond 2GB) because they have a very nice syncing feature across all your devices. Do these file lockers intend on that? No way.
Every product has it's unique selling point, and for filelockers that's software or media that normally goes for thousands of dollars for the price of a premium membership.

Your beliefs don't have to align absolutely, but please show some support.

Robbie wrote his piece on cnn and as always the thread turned into a civil war with all of you just bitching at each other. Granted critiques were made on how it could of been written better but that was it, none of you offered to rewrite it or do much beyond voting for the article.

Everyone bitches about manwin owning the tubes and stealing from people, then manwin comes out and says every affiliate will be terminated that uses a .xxx domain and suddenly manwin is your biggest friend and your cheering for them. This just proves the lot of you are pinheads who can't see many steps ahead, and big companies headed by big brains laugh at you for being pawns. Life and business favors those who can think ahead strategically, the farther the better. Many of you exude deficiency in this category on here. People bash Markham but in reality he has understanding of how the trends are.

Please continue support for AdultKing, he's pushing for something that will benefit all of you. You may not believe in everything he does word for word but it's the right direction and he's showing action and perseverance.

I will continue support with rebuttals and working on pieces for him.

johnnyloadproductions

I'd also like to give another analogy here too.

Brad Mitchell was talking about removing his service mojohost of people running illegal tubes. He did this because he has character and believes in ethics.
Well some time later he made an announcement here retracting that statement that they would not actively seek those running illegal tubes, the reason? Because people figured they'd just take there business elsewhere and unlike Brad most people aren't above making a buck regardless of how it's made. He couldn't help it, it's just the way it is.
So goes with filehosts. Rapidshare is riding a lesser line by only allowing rewards of free accounts to people who get sufficient downloads of their content. If one filehosts offers more rewards then uploaders leap to them. It's all a game of leapfrog and who can remain resilient to shutting down. If a company says they actively seek uploaders who upload copyrighted content and deletes there account, they're going out of business very soon.

Hopefully this makes some sense.

AdultKing

I'm sorry I don't follow your logic. Paypal until today have been recalcitrant and unwilling to face up to the issue. How on earth is criticizing Paypal for processing for illegal content crossing the line ?

AdultKing

FileGag is stealing your content and Paypal, Mastercard and Visa is all available to buy memberships.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filegag-p...legal-content/

AdultKing

Unfortunately my legal advice is not to do this. I did consider it however I am having to be very careful with what I do here. If you want to share an article on one of the sites click the facebook like button on the post. It will then appear in your timeline.

notjoe

I will try to clarify it for you.


"Originally Posted by AdultKing
However he did not seem to get the fact that these sites are so uncontrollable in what can be uploaded and shared that even if there is no violation today, there could be tomorrow."

You reasoning for paypal getting rid of all file lockers, even the legitimate ones, is that just because there is no violation of copyrights today doesn't mean that there won't be some tomorrow. You are already convicting legitimate businesses of something that has not happened yet but that might happen in the future.

Rather than going after those who are in violation and promote the distribution of illegal content with financial compensation to those who upload and promote the uploads, you're lumping everyone together. This is a VERY dangerous precedent to be setting.

It is akin to going to CCBill and saying, hey, since porn site X, Y, and Z have content that they shouldn't, we feel that you should terminate processing for ALL porn sites...because if a porn site doesn't have questionable content today they might tomorrow. I'm all for taking down the file lockers who deserve to be taken down...but going after legitimate ones, which is what you're after by wanting paypal to disallow ALL file lockers, is overboard.

AdultKing

Ok now I understand you, sorry for my confusion.

I am not asking Paypal to shut down processing for legitimate file lockers, however legitimate file lockers are few and far between. All of the ones who pay uploaders and affiliates for downloads are illegitimate and must be shut down. It is those sites I am going after.

Dropbox and other such services have nothing to fear and in my discussions with Paypal this morning that distinction was discussed. I am not going after legitimate file lockers.

I hope this clarifies things, perhaps my choice of words could have been better however I am often posting in the middle of the night here due to timezones and sometimes have minor brain freezes.

I hope that you will support my efforts, if you look at http://stopfilelockers.com you will see that the only sites being targeted are the *bad* file lockers.

signupdamnit

All three load great for me at the moment.

I think it's good that you are documenting your conversations with the employees. It provides a paper trail for later if action escalates to something bigger such as Congress calling in Paypal or Visa/Mastercard to inquire under oath about possible processing for child pornography. They will not be able to claim that they weren't aware. In the end I suspect this is partially what scared CCBill to death. All it takes is for the story to blow up or one high profile incident to occur and it's quite possible that this could happen.

19teenporn

Here's a bump

notjoe

I was just going based on the change to Paypal's AUP that you wanted, to drop all file lockers. Live Drive is another legitimate file locker.

Support? Yes, infact, maybe I can help you with your efforts. I'm pretty good at writing scrapers. Maybe I can write something to monitor file lockers and report details to you when questionable content is found on the site. I could make it grab screen shots for you...Make it easier for you to find and collect the data you need so that it frees up more of your time to tackle the more challenging aspects of what it is you're doing.

PS: If you need another mirror for your site lmk ;)

xenigo

You don't want pirates identifying us individually as being legitimate webmasters. Look at their forums... they're actively trying to wage war against everyone who's trying to take a stand against piracy.

Putting a face to a name, or a name to an agenda could allow them to cause some problems for everyone involved.

seeric

You guys should start a KickStarter. People would give you money.

www.kickstarter.com

I've seen some really stupid shit get funded. This is actually something with a cause, should be a no brainer.

Something else fun to do is Twitter investigative journalists like @chrishansen @andersoncooper etc, those guys love shit like this, as the stories come to them, and they don't have to invest time in finding stories to sensationalize.

The other best and most effective way is to DMCA Google and remove all their SERPS for the infringing material. Kills the traffic dead. Have fun!

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AdultKing

I don't want to make money out of this, I don't think a kickstarter is such a good idea.

Someone contacted me yesterday to place ads for an anti-piracy product on the sites, I refused. I decided there would be no ads before I started this project.

I'm happy to keep on doing what I'm doing and any support is appreciated. If people want to donate a few bucks to help pay for professionally written articles for the other three sites which I haven't released yet (but are set up waiting for content) then contact me and I'll let you know where to send some cash.

Thanks everyone for your support.

MrDeiz

up and working in EasternEu

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MrDeiz

they should recognize file lockers as business model and refuse them the service

congrats on your success

updated: i still see paypal option at http://www.squillion.com/premium.html
just tried it and it brings me to paypal payment form

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MrDeiz

can you please put Paxum donations button on your sites. i'd like to send you some money for the work you do

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AdultKing

FileMates, steal your content and provide all the illegal porn you can imagine.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filemates...phy-and-music/

This one is particularly bad, please retweet this post widely.

AdultKing

Sorry I don't have Paxum, I also think a donation button on the site is not a good idea, I don't want to be perceived as trying to profit from this campaign.

Screwed Up

This.
If you don't want to profit, just calculate what you need:
x amount of articles
x amount of facebook likes
etc...

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While your methods are a bit more extreme, I generally still commend your efforts.

You've also been featured on ACIUF - maybe you could coordinate your work with them and they might be able to allocate some of their funding towards your effort.

You might also want to leave specific info regarding: What do you need, when do you need it and how you can be best reached in private - some companies M ight want to support you, but due to your "style" being somewhat more extreme, they cannot / don't want to do it in public.

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bean-aid

good job on filelockers... i'm confused why tube sites that more then 1 time get a DMCA should be up. Maybe that should be on the agenda?

Klen

-because if they follow DMCA then they are in safeharbor
-now if they use vobile fingerprinting they are safe even more
So in shortly no way to deal with tubes,maybe only suing for unfair competition.

AdultKing

A Big Win against File Lockers!

It took a while and lot of phone calls and pressure on Paypal but finally there is going to be complete co-operation between my campaign against file lockers and Paypal.

http://coldcopy.com.au/paypal-workin...legal-content/

I now have an ongoing dialogue with the most senior person responsible for shutting down illegal sites processing through Paypal and we will be communicating on a regular basis to ensure that every illegal site identified loses their Paypal processing.

Jel

nice one - link 404 btw

AdultKing

Link fixed, sorry it's been a long day and I'm tired.

JOKER

Nice work, keep it coming

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AdultKing

I'm working on Visa and Mastercard now.

I'm also hunting down the worst file hosts and putting them up on http://stopfilelockers.com

I have three other websites ready to go but unfortunately don't have the time to do the content myself, I've ordered some through media piston so soon we should have some more grief lined up for the file sharers.

lucas131

man, that is a battle with wind mills ... i appreciate your efforts and time you put in, but still, one guy against everyone, but keep it up maybe one day maybe someone will find all the info enough to join forces and take some legal steps. respect!

JOKER

Nobody is stopping you or anyone else for that matter, from helping him or the ACIUF for example.

It's a combined effort and there are already quite a few people involved, just because they don't make it as public, doesn't mean it's not happening!

Should you get involved? Well, do you consider yourself a part of this industry?

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lucas131

and man, how can i join or help anyone in this battle, when i dont even know english well and cannot even read well what is wrotten on his page? any money donations maybe, but otherwise, not possible ...

AdultKing

MojoFile is about to bite the dust (but I can't say why yet)

http://stopfilelockers.com/mojofile-...iliate-program

JOKER

I bet we could find many reasons for "not possible".

How about you just contact AdultKing on ICQ: 1905-1100, or via Contact-form - I bet he will tell you what you can do or follow him on Twitter or "Like" his Facebook Page and have others follow and "Like" him...

Concentrate on what you can do - and you will find something

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lucas131

yes man, money donations. i dont have active twitter or facebook page, it is really not about looking for excuses, i really havent found a way how to help here but as i said, respect and my support goes to everyone who fight!