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11-19-2012, 08:14 AM | #4001 |
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The only people who have shared your point of view turned out to be owners of file lockers or profiting from piracy in some other way. |
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Isn't it possible that a person can be against piracy and still question your motives, tactics, ethics, and morality? You sir, become more and more of an idiot as time passes by. You've stumbled on numerous points I've disputed with you. You've done things you've said you wouldn't. Your word means shit. |
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First answer my question. IF I question your motives, tactics, ethics, and morality, how exactly does that make me Pro-Piracy and/or against Anti-Piracy?
Once again, You should be a republican spokesman. You'd fit right in with their whole "Either you're with us or you're against us" mentality. There is no room for discussion. |
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Throughout this whole thread you have not been able to clearly debate your position and you have resorted to distortions of the truth to further your stance against this project. You've said we target legitimate sites. We don't. You've complained that we have shut off payment processing for infringing image hosts. You've claimed sites were legitimate when they weren't. Your attitude through this thread has been the same, you won't clearly state your position on any matter, you simply pick through portions of the thread complaining that this or that is happening without presenting an alternative viewpoint. The only people threatened by our work are those benefiting from piracy, you described our project as a threat. If you mean't something else then explain it. |
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I've always said my position on piracy. I am against it. I challenge you to find an instance of me saying I support or condone piracy, such as you claim I do. Did I describe your project as a threat? Maybe I defined the file lockers as a threat...or maybe it was the tube sites. If you take the time to re-read my post I never said your project was a threat. I never made any reference to what the threat is/was other than there being a threat. Finally, I distinctly remember calling someone out. It was a guy who ran two sites. One was a file locker and the other was a paypal type site. He swore up and down that he didn't have an affiliate program. It was a different way of doing things but what he did have was essentially an affiliate program...just not your standard time. I told him he deserved to lose his processing on the paypal like site. It's amazing how soon your forget that. Might as well add selective memory along with your selective reading. I suggest you re-check your facts and my words before you come here and try to make me out to be something I'm not. Fact is, You're on your high horse. Am I going to question those things I mentioned originally? Absolutely. Does that make me pro-piracy? Absolutely not. An informed person will question things, even those he might believe in, to either prove or disprove his belief in what it is he is questioning. It's unfortunate you're not enlightened enough to grasp that concept. |
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With what has to be Millions of illegally distributed, copyrighted works taken off the 600 file share sites that Stop File Lockers has forced into either compliance or extinction in less than a year, I believe AK and everyone in his group HAS the right to be "on a high horse".
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It's standard on gfy that anyone who questions any alleged anti piracy anything is by default pro piracy Then they insinuate you profit from piracy, because if you doubt them, it's the only way they can fathom your motives |
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You sound a lot like DamianJ the more you post. Hmmmmmmm. You've been coming in and out of this thread with hate since it started. Only difference is AK has been moving forward and getting shit done while you are singing the same old tune as every pirate shit stain before you. That would mean the lowest common denominator is, what? If that is meant to be an insult... Seriously... |
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Sounds about right. God forbid that we have a mind and use it rather than take everything at face value.
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If I stoop to your mentality (and believe me, its hard)... You living in Thailand means you must love sucking ladyboy cock. I mean, why would anyone be willing to move to thailand unless they loved sucking ladyboy cock. There is absolutely no other reason to move to thailand than to suck ladyboy cock. So, How have you enjoyed sucking ladyboy cock for all these years? <sarcasm> Anyways, I'm off to sleep. I got a busy day launching another 600 file locker sites to keep you guys busy *eye roll* </sarcasm> |
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Lot's of people have a "mind and use it". The majority of them do stupid shit. If you think harassing a guy on a message board who IS doing something with his mind (I don't consider you trolling him to be in the same category) is actually productive in any way, then I'm baffled. What do you do in this business anyway that leads you to your conclusions? I looked at your website you have listed as your home page...and it's empty. For those of us with skin in the game this is important stuff. Perhaps you just don't understand what's at stake. What do you do in this biz that makes you think that fighting piracy and succeeding is "bad"? EDIT: Also reading your last reply to DWB where you constantly talk about him "sucking ladyboy cock" leads me to believe that you are a very narrow minded individual who seems prejudiced against others and full of hate. |
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its simple. No content producer can think what AK is doing is negative, none what so ever.
those who think what he is doing is negative, or think its useless are either pirates or not content producers or just trolling. I've said it multiple times, bring me one content producer who is fine with piracy, ill take his stuff any day as filler/or give away for free. |
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I suspected right from the begining that this whole operation was sponsered by tube sites mofos who saw upload monkeys running away with pieces their loot.
The fact that image sites and debrid sites are being targetted but not tube sites make it pretty clear what a charade this whole bloody thing is. A pirate attacking other pirates is not exactly an anti pirate. |
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There are several file locker sites that have every scene indexed and ready to download. If I can get a $15 premium file locker account and get multiple site rips for that, why should I pay $30 for just one site and then another $30 for another. Even if you get a network site membership getting all the scenes is a lot more laborious than just a file locker download with a download manager. No matter how you look at it, this is a net positive for content producers. |
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In any case, now that we have actually started collecting hard data on infringement it turns out that the large Tubes aren't any where near the scale of file lockers, not even close. My decision to begin with file lockers is vindicated as file lockers and the eco system that supports them account for more piracy than any other, closely followed by torrents. |
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I may or may not agree with the observations on tube sites but you know what? Everyone is a fucking critic. AdultKing is doing a damn fine job killing off file lockers and that's great. If you want to get the tubes then follow his model and go after the tubes. There's nothing stopping you. But leave the guy alone and let him work.
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so if that's a distortion of the truth, then what is the truth? Do you work for a company or work at the behest of a company that operates tube sites?
notjoe, there's at least one other reason why someone would live in Thailand and at any rate this DWB guy seems to hang out in this thread 24/7, which should pretty much tell you that he's a strange cat who doesn't really seem to have anything else to occupy his time. He's desperately searching for some kind of identity here. |
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You're doing a great job at fighting for such companies as Microsoft, Apple, EA Games, and of course, MPAA and RIAA. If you think for a minute that file lockers are more harmful to the adult industry than a tube site is...You're living in a distorted reality. However, I can't blame you for doing what you're doing...The real money is in sponsorship by those companies I've listed. Good luck with the transition from adult to mainstream with Cold Copy. |
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Sounds about right for DWB. In a way, he does work for tube site owners. He has accepted donations from Manwin hasn't here? Talk about a HUGE conflict of interest. "Hey, I own several properties that violate copyright violations but hey, let me make a donation to your anti-piracy group". I'm sure Manwin's donation to AK has bought them a little friendship |
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I've never said that tubes do not account for a lot of traffic, they do. If substantial tube sites go down there is less availability of easy to watch, free porn. However many large tubes also license or own a significant amount of content, or have sponsor uploaded content. However on the other hand traffic to sites connected to the file locker eco system is equally large, and virtually all of the content contained on them is infringing. If you believe that tubes are a larger problem than the file locker eco system, can you explain why you believe this and how you came to that conclusion ? We chose to start with file lockers and we're now expanding our efforts. Quote:
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Got news for you, if you're involved in making money from piracy or the traffic that piracy generates then this project will eventually catch up with you and start directly impacting on your ability to make money. Quote:
Sites like PlanetSuzy.org have been stealing from rights holders and selling the traffic back to the industry for too long and they will be shut down. |
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I will quote DWB. When it looks like a duck and quacks like duck....You cannot accept monies from a company who widely ignores copyright infringements and has a massive amount of stolen content on their properties while accepting donations from them to fight piracy. Technically, It could be said that you are profiting off piracy by accepting money from a company that specializes in piracy. It is what it is. |
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I have never said that tube site owners store content on file lockers, I said that the pirates do. We follow and track behaviour of many piracy operations, we know what they do, how they work. You by your own admission haven't done the research and don't know. Continuing to post your self serving, incorrect statements will not make them true. I have posted clear evidence of infringement patterns comparing tubes and file lockers and file lockers are way in front of any tube when it comes to piracy levels. |
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I have a tube, I don't have a filelocker, so what you're doing would actually help my cause if anything. I just don't like fake crusaders in general, you guys always turn out rotten in the end.
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As for turning out rotten, the biggest problem the pirates face is that I cannot be bought. I find every victory we have immensely satisfying, there is nothing I can be offered that would make this effort stop, nothing any of the critics or self interested piracy advocates can say bothers me, DDoS attacks might bring down the sites every now and then but do nothing to stop the constant progress we are making. We have only really just got started with all of this, it's been less than six months, I have a game plan mapped out over several years and it's all got to do with reducing IP infringement. |
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Accepting donations from people that are known for copyright infrigements (AdultKing acknowledges that tubes are indeed infringing, but at lower extent comparing to filelockers) was big mistake for AK. Whatever you say, giving hand is never biten.
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Regardless, contributions to this effort have fallen well short of meeting the costs of it, I've already posted a very detailed account of where our costs lay, if you're really interested go back in the thread and read it. |
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People who actually own intellectual property do not have any problems with AK, what he is doing, or how he is funded. That is a fact. Upload monkeys, tube owners, and other pirates... well, it is clear why so many of you are concerned. But don't worry, you'll all get your day. It's coming. And Manwin is probably going to help fund your demise. |
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Next is the affiliate program. File lockers offer more incentive for people to spread links with clearly defined titles, tags, and explanation of what the content is vs a tube site which has "Blonde chick taking it in the Ass". Also, the scope of file lockers is much larger. With file lockers you can pirate anything. With tube sites it is limited to video content. The ability to pirate different content doesn't mean that the download of that content surpasses a tube site which gets millions of hits per day. When you take the above in to consideration along with the fact you've been focusing on File lockers, that would explain why more DMCA notices get noticed with file lockers than they do with tube sites. Come on, You can't really be this stupid to ignore what is clearly visible, unless, of course, you are in the pockets of well known piracy tube sites. How much is manwin paying you to divert attention away from tube sites? |
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DWEEB you actually think that manwin don't own a file share site hehehe what a joker.
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the length people will go, and the justifications they have, just to watch some porn for free is amazing.
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However, since you know the facts, please enlighten us all and show us which ones and I'll go out of my way to gather the proper evidence so that AK can hit them with everything he has. Of course we both know you can't and won't, so I'm not even sure why I asked. But thanks for getting on the DWB deez nutz train with the rest of the anonymous trolls. If you can round up a few more we can do the choo-choo. All aboard!!!!! It's painfully obvious who is involved in what by watching them post over and over as if they are going to change anyone's mind, stop AK, or stop him from taking donations from certain companies. It's a broken record. Pure comedy. |
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http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/xvideos.com <- ranked 50th in the world. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rapidshare.com <-- Ranked 212th in the the world. Which do you think has more of a global reach? The numbers don't lie. Does xvideos have SOME licensed content? Possibly. Are all 2.4 million scenes licensed? Highly doubtful. I would venture to say that you could add up all the traffic from those 600 sites and they probably still wouldn't come close to what a single well known tube site does. Furthermore, tube sites are about one single thing. Free porn. File lockers and the rest of the list you you cited deal in more than that. I would think that they're bigger in the 'warez' scene than in the porn, though, everyone has their speciality. Quote:
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