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Are we getting copies of them ?

freakfiles

Yeah, right.

How about Crocko.com and Hotfile.com? Still got PayPal.

Nautilus, your continuous spamming of paid representation frankly is very annoying. Did Manwin stop paying your bills? The lists of dead hosts you submit in the beginning of every page are ridiculous. nzbload.com - Alexa rank 886,384. WTF? Who even cares about it? If it is dead, even its owner doesn't give a shit.

I see that people keep asking the same questions and expressing same doubts over and over again which AK simply ignores. Judging from your previous "tube fight" AK, I suggest you start getting those $10 large together ASAP.

notjoe

Even the trolls need to eat.

It's all about the spin they put on it...The list looks impressive until you do your homework and see those sites mean absolutely nothing and amount to a drop of water in the ocean.

I'm sorry. He isn't allowed to discus ongoing operational statuses nor tactics

scottybuzz

why is there so much hate towards someone fighting piracy? We all know piracy is wrong so why are people arguing? Just let him get on with his job. Why does everyone want to know 100% of his operation?

The fact he isn't going after the tubes is irrelevant. It's his choice, his fight and he can do what he likes. Why should he have to justify everything? If AK goes after tubes then I bet some moron would say go after torrents and after that someone would say go after warez etc. Piracy never ends but you can still fight it.

maybe the guy has a secret hidden agenda? so what, by arguing you are going to find it out until it comes out.

let ak do his work and lets see how this develops.

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He's asking for people's money.

What he's doing is necessary, but what it's sounding like is that it's a job rights owners need to do themselves.

Save that, what really seems to cause controversy (although it's sounding a bit staged now) is the idea of AK profiting from piracy, albeit indirectly, regardless if he claims he isn't.

Maybe it sounds to them like he's trying manuever himself into a position to hold rights holders hostage by forcing payment to have content removed (when it's really their own responsibility to keep track of their own content)

I guess what it comes down to is if rights holders want to attempt to take down these big sites they need to join together.

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If your pirate feelings are hurt, go whine at WJ or DP. You'll find hordes of compassionate listeners there.

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DWB

That should be obvious. No one who is serious about their own business would care about what AK is doing unless it directly affected them. And the only way he is going to affect them in any way shape or form is if they are involved in piracy. So those hating are either trolling or pirating. Otherwise they simply wouldn't care at all one way or another.

Pirates gonna pirate. You can tell by those who post the most hate what their true intentions are. It's actually pretty funny to watch.

The nerve of that guy. Where I come from everyone works for free, day in and day out.

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what are you doing to help him?

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Considering you won't even let people know who you are, it shouldn't be that difficult for you to grasp not telling the very pirates he is working against whatever operation tactics he may have and his future plans. And above all else, tell such things to anonymous cunts on message boards who somehow in their twisted pirate brain think they are owed explanations. If I didn't know better, based on the total illogical comments some of you make, I'd honestly think most of you are still in Jr High.

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It's funny watching useless clowns rail against AK while they do nothing themselves! You nailed it perfectly DWB!

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Dirty F

AK when are you gonna do something about the filelockers that actually matter?
It's kinda odd that you aren't touching the biggest lockers since as far as i know your mission is to stop filelockers. Correct me if i got that wrong.

Nautilus

People who're arguing are mostly pirates themselves who profit from stolen property, such as krylon who happened to be Moogie the owner of ultramegabit.com file locker - they're obviously not interested in healthy discussion and only want to derail Stopfilelockers.

And there are also several left-wing liberal idiots whinning about some mythical "innocent victims" who "suffered" from what AK is doing, while of course not being able to name a single host which was terminated without a very good reason for it.

Not to mention that whole army of GFY trolls and sociopaths who visit this thread religiously as if it is their dayjob - no amount reasoning is going to help there, people like that just need medicine.

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The only point I was making was that it's something rights holders should do for themselves if they don't want to have to pay someone to do it for them.

Nautilus

You're not simply wrong, you're sick. At this point in time even a retard would figure it out where to find the list of terminated hosts, and that there are plenty of huge ones in it. Go take your pills and then re-read this thread and Stopfilelockers website. And here is a hint for you - Netload, Bitshare, Freakshare (all were huge, all were terminated several times by various payment providers, none has cc payment option anymore).

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Netload, the first one i checked had like 5 different payment options
I bet the others are the same.

Nautilus

You cannot do that yourself - no billing company (let alone VISA/MC) would terminated a file locker because of a complaint from one individual rights holder (unless your Paramount which you're not). But Copycontrol can get their attention because it represents many rights holders - well, in theory. In practice we still need more rights holders to be representative enough.

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Is your mom paying for your internet connection? Because I cannot see how a retard who cannot figure that webmoney and paypal are not the same for sales would make $20 in the online biz to pay his internet bill.

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DWB

AK has killed off most of the pirates who were stealing from me. Many posters have stopped posting pirate links and a lot of pirate bloggers have closed their sites because of him. I fully support what he is doing and will continue to do so.

It looks very suspicious that you hate him so much and what he is doing, coming into his threads day after day spewing negativity. Wouldn't be surprised if you are deeply involved in piracy somehow. Some are already saying you are. Because you simply wouldn't give a fuck otherwise.

To continually spew the hate you do for no reason at all, for something that supposedly doesn't affect you at all, speaks volumes about your true intentions every time you revisit one of his threads with more negativity. You're either a large pirate yourself, or your one of the most miserable human beings who ever walked the face of the earth and somehow spreading your hate and negativity lets you cope with how just much you hate yourself a little better. I actually feel sorry for you.

DWB

That's the problem, they don't care about a single rights holder unless you lawyer up and go after them. It's much cheaper and efficient to have someone represent you and many others collectively. Secondly, why do it myself when I have many other things to do and I can pay someone who is much more efficient at it than I am and already has the contacts in place to get the job done? Ak does somehting and he does it well and getting better at it every day. Why would I want to start at zero and learn everything he has done and spend my time on it, when I can just send him a few bucks to do it for me?

We also pay a company to send DMCAs for us when they find our content. They remove 1000s of links for us from old DVD rips of ours. Sales have been on a steady increase for the past year and I'm sure it is no coincidence that it has something to do with our content becoming more difficult to find for free. None of this is rocket science. I honestly can't believe this even has to be explained to people, over and over and over again. Most of all, explained to people who it supposedly doesn't even affect in the first place.

Dirty F

God, you moron

Dirty F

Wtf are you talking about you dumb imbecile. You said they can't accept cc's. The first out of 5 options is credit card!

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It only appeared recently, it doesn't work for all countries, it is available at Netload only, and it will be dealt with shortly. But anyway, I understant that in your retarded mind one of the terminated hosts returning with a half assed payment option which wouldn't last a week is a rock solid proof that AK is not doing anything about bigger hosts at all.

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Look imbecile, you said they can't accept credit cards. I check it and the first thing i see is a cc option. Next to 4 other options. I come back here to mention that and you start insulting me.
Do you see how stupid this makes you look?

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You don't get it do you? It doesn't work in all countries. I didn't know what country you're from, that's why I didn't mention about it. You was said to look at 3 hosts, not just one. A reasonable person (not an aggressive retard which you are) is expected to check all 3 and then ASK why one of them still has cc's. This theoretical reasonable person would have been explained then that Netload were able to find a new payment option recently which works for about 30-40% of the market and will be dealt with shortly. Accuracy of my statement about these 3 hosts not having cc payment options was about 90% - enough for a statement preceded by a word "hint".

Not that I expect you to understand any of that. Because saying that AK is not touching bigger hosts is simply beyond retarded, I wouldnt expect a person who's making statements like that to be capable of any form of logical thinking.

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Usually rights holders send letters only to filelockers, but not to the both parts of eco system. There still are tons of pictures. Is it some promotion policy or time limit? People just spend more time to get all your links. Image hosts show your photo files for free to sell banner areas - this is their thievish business. Moreover many imagehosts have the same owners as filelockers. Let`s take down another piracy source of funding.

Dirty F

Ok, i checked the other 2 as well. Guess what? They also both accept crecit cards. Do you have mental retardation or something? This is just weird man. You keep attacking me and calling me an idiot and in the meantime there is exactly 1 person clearly very wrong here and that is you. This is just stupid.

Dirty F

Nautiles: we killed the cc option on all 3 filelockers.
Me: i check the first one and first thing i see is cc.
Nautiles: are you stupid or what blah blah cry cry.
Me: you said no cc and i see cc, you are wrong.
Nautiles: your momma bllaaaaah blaaah dumb cry blah you should check all 3!
Me: all three accept cc's

I think we can all guess the next reaction from this imbecile :orglaugh

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I won't be posting here anymore either way for a while. I'll let him do his job and we'll see how this goes.
I said it before but people like DWB have too much shit from AK in their eyes to understand this i guess:
I support what he does. It's a good thing. I just think his intentions are different than what he's trying to make us believe. And i simply don't like the guy. I think he's an idiot.
Do you understand this DWB? Do you finally get it? You and your buttbudies can stop hinting at me being involved in piracy.
It is really annoying and pathetic behaviour of you people here. Anybody who has any questions is automatically a pirate.
How old are you again? 15?

AdultKing

Hotfile are currently before the courts and any action will be pending the outcome of that case. Crocko.com is being worked on.

Small file lockers can become very large file lockers in a matter of a few months. UltraMegaBit started earlier this year and is now a huge problem, especially for adult content.

By killing off small hosts we ensure they don't become big hosts.

There are a number of people on this forum who appear to have a vested interest in ensuring we fail. You're one of them.

I'll correct you because you have got it wrong. We have had payment options removed from some of the largest file lockers there are - ExtaBit, Netload, DespositFiles just to name three. Some come back with new options, but every time we force them to switch they lose money. Keep the pressure up and eventually they will run out of cashflow to keep operating.

As for file lockers that matter, they all matter. A small file locker can become a huge file locker in just a few months. UltraMegaBit.com is proof of that with a vast amount of piracy.

Every site matters. A small file locker can become a big file locker in a matter of months.

However this isn't your real argument is it ? What you want is for us to stop what we are doing because somewhere down the line it's going to affect you if we succeed.

Rightly so. It would be counterproductive to provide any insight into our operational strategies on this forum or anywhere else. The fact that people keep salivating for new information is proof positive that there are worried people who are just hoping they're not next.

We are asking for money because what we do costs money.

Single rights holders can have very little influence over behemoth organisations like Paypal, Mastercard, Visa etc. However a large number of rights holders being represented by one organisation can be very effective in influencing outcomes. This is why we are asking rights holders to become represented by us.

Considering as of now we are running at a deficit, I'd love to know where the profit component is.

The people complaining are those who are themselves profiting from piracy by being involved in one or more of the piracy ecosystems, again and again we have outed people in this thread as being directly or indirectly involved in piracy.

We don't remove content, we're not a content removal service. Rights holders should keep their existing content removal arrangements in place.

What we do is shut down sites, or disrupt them with the aim of terminally damaging them.
We work at a higher level than content removal services, working with payment processors, web hosts, law enforcement and other organisations to disrupt pirate activities and force the closure of sites.

Absolutely correct. As individuals, rights holders don't have a lot of clout with the huge organisations that can affect positive outcomes. However as a pool, they have huge influence and we know how to wield that influence in the most effective manner.

davethedope

Unless all of this controversy is contrived to keep the thread alive, this is where I think some are having a disconnect.

The lack of transparency prevents others from understanding what you're doing and prevents them from doing it themselves- that is, you're protecting your method as a trade secret (which if it is, that's your business) however, if what you do is a matter of legal procedure, it would seem logical to inform rights holders of their options.

Again, they are free to inform themselves of their own rights, but nevermind that, as it doesn't seem like your "trolls" are interested in anything but pointing out to you that despite your efforts, piracy remains.

It wouldn't seem, if your tactics are a function of legal recourse, that it wouldn't matter who knows them, including file locker owners, as they are breaking the law, and would in fact make them even more culpable and inable to claim ignorance of the law.

A criminal knows when he breaks the law and makes himself subject to penalties.

The tactics of law enforcement to catch criminals does not change the fact that a law has been broken.


As much good as you're trying to do, don't forget, no one asked you to do this. So, just from a PR perspective, if you are in business, make it a business. You should probably get rid of this thread if your actions aren't up for discussion and scrutiny. It's not like Coca Cola has to tell people they need their money to create beverages to quench their thirst. Stop Justifying Stopping File Lockers. Unless there's some reason you feel you need to.

From a sales perspective, this statement, again, causes a disconnect, unless you are forthcoming with who you represent and what representation entails.

If you're selling a product, make known the features of the product. It can't be a secret, can it?

Basically, for me, your sales pitch needs work.

Interesting product, but this thread is just bad for your image and is unprofessional.

I agree with your business model, but they're going to keep picking it apart with facts if you keep it up.

DWB

See you tomorrow. You have so much hate and negativity inside of you that you can't resit from posting. Like I said, it's really sad.

He's already making a difference. What don't I understand? That he isn't doing it the way you, the resident GFY troll, thinks it should be done? I'll tell you what, you keep crying and he'll keep doing what he is doing.


No you don't.

Again, why do you care if it isn't affecting your business?

Oh, I get it. He's making a difference, you're crying about it. Nothing to hint about, you are only posting here for one of two reasons as stated before. It's painfully obvious.

Considering almost everyone attacking him has checked out to be involved in piracy, then it is not absurd to believe everyone attacking him is. Like I said, if it doesn't affect your business, you wouldn't care. Period. Spin it however you want. Because if it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't waste your time. That is a fact. Unless you're a bigger whack job than I originally thought, which is possible. I don't like a lot of people but I don't follow them around in every thread like a lost puppy dog spewing hate. You're just sad man. That's all there is to it. You should really take a hard look at yourself and see how negative you are.

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Nautilus

Yep it works from SE, thanks for pointing that out. They've had backup accounts with SWReg for awhile, and it looks like we missed the moment when they put them to use because they utilized GEO and only serve CC option for some selected countries only.

You can see AK saying about their backup DR accounts more than a month ago:
http://stopfilelockers.com/more-file...nt-processing/

Thanks for the help yet again. We'll take care of it now.

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So when i mention they have a cc option you go completely nuts but when he says it you thank him? Twice. Wow.

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Not only were you wrong, you're also a fucking hypocrite.

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As if you retarded troll is interested in helping the cause or a healthy discussion.

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