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Old 10-21-2012, 09:58 PM   #3651
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Imagetwist have already lost Paypal, they pay uploaders using various payment methods.

This site and many others will be in for a shock once we start shutting down the accounts they use to pay their uploaders.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:26 PM   #3652
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What do you think about depositefiles.com, extabit.com?

Is rapidgators.net closed from signups? It's hard for me to tell.

Do you think it might be easier to go after the forums which faciliate the links to the filelockers? Without the links they won't get the traffic and they (filelockers) will be forced to promote their own sites which will open them up to vulnerability.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:32 PM   #3653
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Do you think it might be easier to go after the forums which faciliate the links to the filelockers? Without the links they won't get the traffic and they (filelockers) will be forced to promote their own sites which will open them up to vulnerability.
Remember that indexing links is rarely prosecuted. Granted the case in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O'Dwyer

with TVshack.net

Hosting the content is the illegal part, that's why some of these forums get away with it. The file lockers just get away with it because of the DMCA loophole. I bet half of file lockers are bootstrapped by the owners uploading everything they've ever downloaded and then getting it off the ground with affiliates.
Hard to tell without detailed logs, and who's going to do that without fear of incriminating themselves?
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What do you think about depositefiles.com, extabit.com?
Both are infringing file lockers, both have lost Paypal and various other payment methods. Both are still being targeted by us.

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Is rapidgators.net closed from signups? It's hard for me to tell.
Refer my previous statement about Rapidgator.

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Do you think it might be easier to go after the forums which faciliate the links to the filelockers? Without the links they won't get the traffic and they (filelockers) will be forced to promote their own sites which will open them up to vulnerability.
We're pursuing every part of the eco system.

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Remember that indexing links is rarely prosecuted. Granted the case in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O'Dwyer

with TVshack.net

Hosting the content is the illegal part, that's why some of these forums get away with it. The file lockers just get away with it because of the DMCA loophole. I bet half of file lockers are bootstrapped by the owners uploading everything they've ever downloaded and then getting it off the ground with affiliates.
Hard to tell without detailed logs, and who's going to do that without fear of incriminating themselves?
You're not safe just by having links to infringing content, anyone who thinks they are would be very wrong.

As stated above, we're going after every portion of the eco system.
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Remember that indexing links is rarely prosecuted. Granted the case in the UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O'Dwyer

with TVshack.net

Hosting the content is the illegal part, that's why some of these forums get away with it. The file lockers just get away with it because of the DMCA loophole. I bet half of file lockers are bootstrapped by the owners uploading everything they've ever downloaded and then getting it off the ground with affiliates.
Hard to tell without detailed logs, and who's going to do that without fear of incriminating themselves?
It's a tough battle for sure. Some of these forums reside in the US though. Some of these forum owners have been involved with previous, and current, acts of theft. It may not hurt to try and pinpoint one and see what US law can, and cannot, subpoena.

I think it is the forums that should be shut down though. Filelockers keep opening up, the source of the traffic is not so easy.

I know some good US attorneys should you need a contact.
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It's a tough battle for sure. Some of these forums reside in the US though. Some of these forum owners have been involved with previous, and current, acts of theft. It may not hurt to try and pinpoint one and see what US law can, and cannot, subpoena.

I think it is the forums that should be shut down though. Filelockers keep opening up, the source of the traffic is not so easy.

I know some good US attorneys should you need a contact.
All good points.

We already have our own legal teams working with us, we're in discussion with many parties concerning various issues, some will take longer to resolve than others.

Obviously we wont discuss ongoing detailed operational matters or strategy publicly.
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Imagetwist have already lost Paypal, they pay uploaders using various payment methods.

This site and many others will be in for a shock once we start shutting down the accounts they use to pay their uploaders.
Great news. Can't wait to see the headlines.
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Bumping to keep this up front. Great work AK and all of your network members.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:32 PM   #3661
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Do you think it might be easier to go after the forums which faciliate the links to the filelockers? Without the links they won't get the traffic and they (filelockers) will be forced to promote their own sites which will open them up to vulnerability.
IMO it would need a law making advertisers on those forums liable to be sued by the victim of the piracy.
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The following sites have lost payment processing of one form or another since 10th October:


bitshare.com
freakshare.com
venusfile.com
filenet.ws
fileb.ag
almmyz.com .
almmyz.com
filesk2.com
filegig.com
sharedbit.net
fileuplo.de
filestrum.com
megaload.it
uploadcore.com
filehostfree.com
1st-files.com
wowebook.be
gxcandals.com
zkito.com
unrestrict.li
gbmeister.com
247upload.com
mafiastorage.com
fileprohost.com
files2upload.net
megacache.net
sube.me
uploo.net
slingfile.com


Updates here:

http://stopfilelockers.com/more-file...nt-processing/

http://forum.copycontrol.org/showthr...wfull=1#post78


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IMO it would need a law making advertisers on those forums liable to be sued by the victim of the piracy.
No new law needed, existing legislation in several jurisdictions is sufficient.

Any party enabling piracy is liable for civil action and in some cases criminal sanctions.

It's true that for many years various parties have been allowed to get away with supporting piracy however it would be foolish to misconstrue lack of action with a corresponding lack of remedies available to rights holders.
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The following sites have lost payment processing of one form or another since 10th October:


bitshare.com
freakshare.com
venusfile.com
filenet.ws
fileb.ag
almmyz.com .
almmyz.com
filesk2.com
filegig.com
sharedbit.net
fileuplo.de
filestrum.com
megaload.it
uploadcore.com
filehostfree.com
1st-files.com
wowebook.be
gxcandals.com
zkito.com
unrestrict.li
gbmeister.com
247upload.com
mafiastorage.com
fileprohost.com
files2upload.net
megacache.net
sube.me
uploo.net
slingfile.com


Updates here:

http://stopfilelockers.com/more-file...nt-processing/

http://forum.copycontrol.org/showthr...wfull=1#post78
Well done. How is funding going to keep this going into the future?



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No new law needed, existing legislation in several jurisdictions is sufficient.

Any party enabling piracy is liable for civil action and in some cases criminal sanctions.

It's true that for many years various parties have been allowed to get away with supporting piracy however it would be foolish to misconstrue lack of action with a corresponding lack of remedies available to rights holders.
Has anyone used this legislation to go after the advertisers on piracy sites?
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Has anyone used this legislation to go after the advertisers on piracy sites?
The type of infringement or the nature of the infringer is irrelevant.

Think, common law, civil, torts.
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The type of infringement or the nature of the infringer is irrelevant.

Think, common law, civil, torts.
Has anyone done this?
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Warner & Disney vs Triton in 2010 was a US example of taking advertising business to court.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40370005/C...v-Triton-Media

Paul, we're obviously not going to outline relevant case law in public, why would we give anyone the heads up on how we will pursue them ?
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Warner & Disney vs Triton in 2010 was a US example of taking advertising business to court.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40370005/C...v-Triton-Media

Paul, we're obviously not going to outline relevant case law in public, why would we give anyone the heads up on how we will pursue them ?
Thanks for the info.
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Warner & Disney vs Triton in 2010 was a US example of taking advertising business to court.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40370005/C...v-Triton-Media

Paul, we're obviously not going to outline relevant case law in public, why would we give anyone the heads up on how we will pursue them ?
Wow, nice work. I like this.
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Looks like an excellent time to start payment processing for all these sites -LOL
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/40370005/C...v-Triton-Media
It happens rarely, this too:

"A U.S. District Court judge has issued a preliminary injunction against two advertising networks and a Whois protection service of a site that offers pirated e-books. Advertising networks Clicksor and Chitika are now prohibited from serving advertisements to the site"

http://torrentfreak.com/no-ads-or-wh...-rules-110118/

In fact if it will be introduced a sistematic and constant stop of advertising on pirate sites, as well as the current credit card sales stop we see since few months: this may be enough to make piracy no more profitable anywhere for anyone. Further, it may become even not sustainable for "no profit pirates" due to hosting costs, which need to be paid in any case. Both no uploaders affiliates or advertising, would leave only the option of donations via bank wires, quite unlikely an option.

I think there are only a few dozens of ad networks serving ads to pirates, and less than an hundreds of major final advertisers, so to "reach" all them it does not impossible

Also often the domain name registrars are involved, see this about Enom:

http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives...tworks_ord.htm
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It happens rarely, this too:

"A U.S. District Court judge has issued a preliminary injunction against two advertising networks and a Whois protection service of a site that offers pirated e-books. Advertising networks Clicksor and Chitika are now prohibited from serving advertisements to the site"

http://torrentfreak.com/no-ads-or-wh...-rules-110118/

In fact if it will be introduced a sistematic and constant stop of advertising on pirate sites, as well as the current credit card sales stop we see since few months: this may be enough to make piracy no more profitable anywhere for anyone. Further, it may become even not sustainable for "no profit pirates" due to hosting costs, which need to be paid in any case. Both no uploaders affiliates or advertising, would leave only the option of donations via bank wires, quite unlikely an option.

I think there are only a few dozens of ad networks serving ads to pirates, and less than an hundreds of major final advertisers, so to "reach" all them it does not impossible

Also often the domain name registrars are involved, see this about Enom:

http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives...tworks_ord.htm
This is the important part.

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In a recent case filed at the Massachusetts District Court both these strategies were used by book publishers Elsevier and John Wiley & Sons. The two publishers filed a case against the Clicksor and Chitika advertising networks and the domain registrar Enom?s Whois Privacy Protection Service. The defendants were chosen because all provided services to Pharmatext.org, a site that offered pirated e-books.
This is open for everyone to do. How long before some traffic sellers here get hit?
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It happens rarely, this too:

"A U.S. District Court judge has issued a preliminary injunction against two advertising networks and a Whois protection service of a site that offers pirated e-books. Advertising networks Clicksor and Chitika are now prohibited from serving advertisements to the site"
It looks like there are multiple ways to cut off the money stream from sites that are allowing/participating in copyright infringement. This is a much better way to look at curtailing this than DMCA alone.

What video producers need, is the often talked about way to track the IP (and any other identifying information) of anyone that downloads, rips or screen caps copyrighted content. There is steganography for stills from Chroma Shift, but there needs to be something similar for video soon.
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It looks like there are multiple ways to cut off the money stream from sites that are allowing/participating in copyright infringement. This is a much better way to look at curtailing this than DMCA alone.

What video producers need, is the often talked about way to track the IP (and any other identifying information) of anyone that downloads, rips or screen caps copyrighted content. There is steganography for stills from Chroma Shift, but there needs to be something similar for video soon.
They are launching a video plugin within the next 6 months.
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What they need is to get together as one organisation and hit these leeches as a group.
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If your business provides support to pirates then now is a good time to reconsider your business plan.

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024
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If your business provides support to pirates then now is a good time to reconsider your business plan.

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024
This is Dutch hosting provider; now this is interesting that so many piracy it is hosted in the The Netherlands (even Megaupload was), so ther emay be a migration, into where?

Quite different from USA where hardly hosting it is liable for anything: "The unlawful characteristics of the (activities on) SumoTorrent were evident. Moreover they were obvious to XS Networks? the verdict reads.

It is also interesting for the non-anonymity: The Court also ordered XS Networks to hand over all personal information they have on the operator of SumoTorrent or pay a penalty of 10,000 euros a day.

So as an update there is 4 "issues" in run a pirate site for profit:

1) Affiliate uploaders: Paypal lost within days; Visa / Mastercard via rogue pages also unstable.

2) Some hosting providers (dutch only for now?) will be fined and forced to tell the pirate site operator's name and address.

3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites.

4) Domain names, there was Enom and others hit by courts, but I think this is not relevant as the previous 3 as to change into strange tld on strange mantainer it is easy.

Also if you are very big as it was Megaupload, you may get federal agents enter your home from windows like in a movie.
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US based hosting companies have plenty of liability, it's just that nobody has wielded the big stick yet, we intend to do so.

Any company providing material support to pirates is liable to be targeted.
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http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-site...damages-121024
More great news.
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Some Dutch hosting providers are way to clever to make the same mistakes XS Networks did. They know the law and they also now how to work around it. But "one" mistake will be enough ;-)
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Some Dutch hosting providers are way to clever to make the same mistakes XS Networks did. They know the law and they also now how to work around it. But "one" mistake will be enough ;-)
I wonder what hosting providers like Ecatel will do now - will they keep on ignoring DMCAs from copyright holders, or will they change their ways. Any ideas?
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"3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites."

You're going to make JuicyAds and others cry now. Not only pirated content but CP as well. Last night I used bing/google to find "legal/porn/forum/bbs" - A few good sites came up, not many. The rest were pirates and CP. JA were all over both Pirate sites and CP sites.
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"3) Some courts (in USA) will force advertising networks to stop deliver adverts to pirate sites."

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I wonder what hosting providers like Ecatel will do now - will they keep on ignoring DMCAs from copyright holders, or will they change their ways. Any ideas?
These guys are (I have to gave an understatement now) not really impressed by the law. But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)
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These guys are (I have to gave an understatement now) not really impressed by the law. But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)
This is why we need to hit advertisers. No ads, no processing and hosting bills go unpaid.
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But I do hope they will keep ignoring dmca's ;-)
Yep at this point, after the XS decision, they'll do us all a favor by sticking to their old ways
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I just found this on a forum, I think everyone will be happy, AK has them on his ToDo list.

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It's official - Avangate is cancelling contracts with all the Cyberlockers from October 31st.

Can you guys suggest another payment gateway that supports guys like us?
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We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.
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We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.
Wait and see. But it shows your campaign is doing more damage to the pirates than all the rest.
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I'm guessing because you stay well the fuck away from Rapidshare, just like you do the tube sites. You know which direction the slapdown is gonna come from. Chin up though, because before then you'll have all the Paul Markham's of the world as your loyal allies, which will more than make up for all the players actually handling traffic waiting to piss on your grave over this sanctimonious bullshit. Oh yeah... and sig whores from Thailand (hmmm wonder why a man would move THERE) - they'll be your second biggest fans. And huge sources of revenue, believe that. I see a very bright future of eating Ramen and speaking on panels at conventions in your future. You will be known far and wide as the most upstanding pornographer on the planet. Hell, you might get to meet the President!
Rapidshare no longer works correctly. If they got another processor then that will be shut down. Shoot your mouth off and you will get what has, and will, come.

BTW... Since you own cuckolds.com I found out that you have exactly 42 videos in your members area and they are complete fucking bullshit vids. You are the epitome of *ghetto* in this industry. Go fuck yourself

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Rapidshare no longer works correctly. If they got another processor then that will be shut down. Shoot your mouth off and you will get what has, and will, come.
I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.
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