Hey Adult King, Why don't you have porn affiliate programs shut down for supporting piracy? - GoFuckYourself.com

notjoe · 08-16-2012, 06:35 AM

A tube tube promotes sponsors, so, a sponsor is supporting a tube site by accepting the traffic and making sales off of it. Because the sponsor is supporting the tube site they're also supporting piracy (AK's words, not mine).This is no different than a link shortening website shortening links for piracy websites. Why have you/are you not going after the credit card processing of adult affiliate programs who buy traffic from tube sites? If you're as anti piracy as you claim you are then it would be a logical move.

AdultKing · 08-16-2012, 06:37 AM

Nice troll attempt. I have never discussed tubes in this context, you are being disingenuous for saying I have. I really don't appreciate your lying words being put into my mouth.

As for answering you're question, you're an obvious asshat. Fuck off.

notjoe · 08-16-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

We believe that the following file sharing, video sharing, video streaming, piracy, link shortening sites, resellers and enabling services have been had their Paypal accounts terminated between 2nd August 2012 and 16th August 2012.

A link shortening website is not really much different than a porn website. They both pay for traffic to be sent to their site. You say that a link shortening website is profiting from piracy and thus on your radar to be taken down.

An affiliate program is profiting from piracy by accepting traffic from a tube site, which has illegal video content on it.

Why don't you explain to me how there is a difference between the link shortening website and an affiliate program who both accept traffic and both make money from a piracy fed traffic stream?

adultmobile · 08-16-2012, 07:27 AM

Only Paul Markham can save this thread, if he does not post here, the thread is dead.

L-Pink · 08-16-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

A link shortening website is not really much different than a porn website. They both pay for traffic to be sent to their site. You say that a link shortening website is profiting from piracy and thus on your radar to be taken down.

An affiliate program is profiting from piracy by accepting traffic from a tube site, which has illegal video content on it.

Why don't you explain to me how there is a difference between the link shortening website and an affiliate program who both accept traffic and both make money from a piracy fed traffic stream?

One of the few if any people actually taking action against piracy and you are giving him shit because he isn't doing more? Nice.

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notjoe · 08-16-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

One of the few if any people actually taking action against piracy and you are giving him shit because he isn't doing more? Nice.

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Not giving him shit...just wondering why affiliate programs who support some of the worst piracy sites in history and quite possibly lead to the demise of our business seem to be getting a free pass.

Nautilus · 08-16-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Not giving him shit...just wondering why affiliate programs who support some of the worst piracy sites in history and quite possibly lead to the demise of our business seem to be getting a free pass.

You're free to start a "Killing off Illegal Tube Sites" project and go after them and cut them whatever money supply they may have, including payouts from affiliate programs. We'll all support you.

AdultKing · 08-16-2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

You're free to start a "Killing off Illegal Tube Sites" project and go after them and cut them whatever money supply they may have, including payouts from affiliate programs. We'll all support you.

Absolutely.

AdultKing · 08-16-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

One of the few if any people actually taking action against piracy and you are giving him shit because he isn't doing more? Nice.

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We posted a list of 135 sites who lost Paypal processing in the past couple of weeks.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19128121&postcount=2116

It seems that's not enough.

It's obvious that the OP does not understand how painstaking this work is, how costly it is in time and resources. It's not just a case of saying to Paypal, hey this site is involved in piracy or other illegal stuff. We need to provide substantial evidence for Paypal to investigate.

notjoe · 08-16-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

We posted a list of 135 sites who lost Paypal processing in the past couple of weeks.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19128121&postcount=2116

It seems that's not enough.

It's obvious that the OP does not understand how painstaking this work is, how costly it is in time and resources. It's not just a case of saying to Paypal, hey this site is involved in piracy or other illegal stuff. We need to provide substantial evidence for Paypal to investigate.

I'm not discounting the work you've done nor the milestones you've reached. What I am knocking is some of the sites you are and are not targeting. You seem to be spending your time on those sites which will have the least amount (albeit quite possibly) of impact on the adult business as a whole, not to mention sidestepping the elephant in the room.

Take it with a grain of salt.

AdultKing · 08-16-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

I'm not discounting the work you've done nor the milestones you've reached. What I am knocking is some of the sites you are and are not targeting. You seem to be spending your time on those sites which will have the least amount (albeit quite possibly) of impact on the adult business as a whole, not to mention sidestepping the elephant in the room.

Take it with a grain of salt.

The project at hand is file lockers and the sites associated with them.

I didn't start a thread called "Killing off Tubes", I didn't start a thread saying "Killing off Torrent Sites.".

I would like Copy Control to tackle all forms of piracy, however we barely have enough money to keep the Stop File Lockers project afloat.

notjoe · 08-16-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

I didn't start a thread called "Killing off Tubes", I didn't start a thread saying "Killing off Torrent Sites.".

It's ok, Really, it is. You didn't start a thread called "Killing off link shorteners" but you seem to be doing that.

You can have your double standard. I suspect if you started going after the adult affiliate programs who support copyright infringement by supporting those who infringe on copyrights that your goose would be cooked in this business.

Have a great day ;)

baddog · 08-16-2012, 09:38 AM

wow, some parent's children

peterk · 08-16-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

It's ok, Really, it is. You didn't start a thread called "Killing off link shorteners" but you seem to be doing that.

You can have your double standard. I suspect if you started going after the adult affiliate programs who support copyright infringement by supporting those who infringe on copyrights that your goose would be cooked in this business.

Have a great day ;)

going after anyone using paypal for anything adult is easy since it's against their tos and paypal has no prob terminating accounts. he can't do anything against companies who advertise on tube sites, there is no recourse. people will just ignore him then.

papill0n · 08-16-2012, 12:35 PM

WOW WHAT A FUCKING DICKHEAD THIS NOTJOE CUNT IS

what are you doing notjoe ? any fucking thing ?

why would you have a go at adultking when he is doing more than most of us combined ?

AdultKing · 08-16-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by peterk

going after anyone using paypal for anything adult is easy since it's against their tos and paypal has no prob terminating accounts. he can't do anything against companies who advertise on tube sites, there is no recourse. people will just ignore him then.

Don't bet on that.

It's worth notingn that 27 sites in the latest 135 sites had no adult on them at all.

DWB · 08-16-2012, 01:03 PM

Looks like someone here either lost their paypal account or their short links, courtesy of AK.

London Banker · 08-16-2012, 01:08 PM

AK is probably scared to go after big filelockers or big tubes.

I can't think of any other reason. All his excuses sound lame.

DWB · 08-16-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by London Banker

AK is probably scared to go after big filelockers or big tubes.

I can't think of any other reason. All his excuses sound lame.

Oh goodie, yet another fake nick pussy / pirate.

baddog · 08-16-2012, 01:52 PM

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Oh goodie, yet another fake nick pussy / pirate.

19teenporn · 08-16-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

A tube tube promotes sponsors, so, a sponsor is supporting a tube site by accepting the traffic and making sales off of it. Because the sponsor is supporting the tube site they're also supporting piracy (AK's words, not mine).This is no different than a link shortening website shortening links for piracy websites. Why have you/are you not going after the credit card processing of adult affiliate programs who buy traffic from tube sites? If you're as anti piracy as you claim you are then it would be a logical move.

I will suppprt you when you start targeting tube sites. I will donate as many hours of my time as it's necessary and for as long as it takes.

Looking forward to hearing from you in this great new crusade...

London Banker · 08-16-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Oh goodie, yet another fake nick pussy / pirate.

Your better post proof that i'm a pirate.

As per GFY rules.

DWB · 08-16-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by London Banker

Your better post proof that i'm a pirate.

As per GFY rules.

19teenporn · 08-16-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by London Banker

Your better post proof that i'm a pirate.

As per GFY rules.

So, if you're not a pirate, why so much hate? I mean, yor words only spread hate.

I really hope you are a pirate who as his income stream because of stopfilelockers, otherwise i feel really sorry for you.

Hope you can get help...

DTK · 08-16-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

wow what a fucking dickhead this notjoe cunt is

what are you doing notjoe ? Any fucking thing ?

Why would you have a go at adultking when he is doing more than most of us combined ?

+1 . . . .

London Banker · 08-16-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn

So, if you're not a pirate, why so much hate? I mean, yor words only spread hate.

I really hope you are a pirate who as his income stream because of stopfilelockers, otherwise i feel really sorry for you.

Hope you can get help...

What hate am I spreading?

I just posted the facts that AK never goes for huge file lockers. And in turn I was called a pirate (I dont run any tubes or filelockers).

If AK closed down 1 huge filelocker, it would probably outweight a big number of small ones that he posted about.

So far it just looks like he intentionally avoids big players.

The Ghost · 08-16-2012, 03:10 PM

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papill0n · 08-16-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by London Banker

What hate am I spreading?

I just posted the facts that AK never goes for huge file lockers. And in turn I was called a pirate (I dont run any tubes or filelockers).

If AK closed down 1 huge filelocker, it would probably outweight a big number of small ones that he posted about.

So far it just looks like he intentionally avoids big players.

hes doing something. you. youre doing nothing but creating nicks on gfy

adultking is getting shit done and earning peoples respect.

you. youre hiding away like the weak little troll you are doing nothing

DamianJ · 08-16-2012, 03:22 PM

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peterk · 08-18-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Don't bet on that.

It's worth notingn that 27 sites in the latest 135 sites had no adult on them at all.

how many tube sites been shut down?

notjoe · 08-18-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Looks like someone here either lost their paypal account or their short links, courtesy of AK.

Sorry, My paypal account is just fine. Then again I don't run a file locker, piracy sites, or other questionable websites.

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Originally Posted by 19teenporn

I will suppprt you when you start targeting tube sites. I will donate as many hours of my time as it's necessary and for as long as it takes.

Looking forward to hearing from you in this great new crusade...

Never said I was going on a crusade of any kind. You might be waiting for quite a while.

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Originally Posted by papill0n

WOW WHAT A FUCKING DICKHEAD THIS NOTJOE CUNT IS

what are you doing notjoe ? any fucking thing ?

why would you have a go at adultking when he is doing more than most of us combined ?

Awwww. Did I hurt your feelings? Are you now partying like its 1999 now that these file lockers have been shut down? I already answered your question in my first post in this thread. Get AK's cock out of your face and you might be able to read it.

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how many tube sites been shut down?

0 Tubes have been shut down. 0 Affiliate programs that support tubesites and their whole piracy model have been shut down. What a FANTASTIC job AK is doing.

I get why AK went after the link shorteners. File lockers used them to generate additional income. What I DON'T get is why he is not going after affiliate programs that tube sites use to generate additional income. There is no difference between the two.

Barefootsies · 08-18-2012, 10:46 AM

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adultmobile · 08-18-2012, 01:54 PM

krylon · 08-18-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by notjoe

Sorry, My paypal account is just fine. Then again I don't run a file locker, piracy sites, or other questionable websites.

Never said I was going on a crusade of any kind. You might be waiting for quite a while.

Awwww. Did I hurt your feelings? Are you now partying like its 1999 now that these file lockers have been shut down? I already answered your question in my first post in this thread. Get AK's cock out of your face and you might be able to read it.

0 Tubes have been shut down. 0 Affiliate programs that support tubesites and their whole piracy model have been shut down. What a FANTASTIC job AK is doing.

I get why AK went after the link shorteners. File lockers used them to generate additional income. What I DON'T get is why he is not going after affiliate programs that tube sites use to generate additional income. There is no difference between the two.

What don't you get? He's only going after sites that process with PayPal. Since PayPal TOS is pretty strict and straight forward when it comes to porn.

AdultKing · 08-18-2012, 10:14 PM

This post is to clear up some things, quite basic things.

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Originally Posted by notjoe

0 Tubes have been shut down. 0 Affiliate programs that support tubesites and their whole piracy model have been shut down. What a FANTASTIC job AK is doing.

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Originally Posted by peterk

how many tube sites been shut down?

The Project at hand is STOP FILE LOCKERS.

We have deliberately kept our focus narrow to file lockers because quite frankly it's taking a long time to deal with them. If others wish to commence their own campaigns going after other things then they should do so.

Asking us how many tube sites we have shut down is like asking us to shut down Silk Road. Tubes are not our focus, Silk Road is not our focus, our current focus is on file lockers and enabling sites or sites associated with the file locker eco system.

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Originally Posted by London Banker

I just posted the facts that AK never goes for huge file lockers. And in turn I was called a pirate (I dont run any tubes or filelockers).

If AK closed down 1 huge filelocker, it would probably outweight a big number of small ones that he posted about.

So far it just looks like he intentionally avoids big players.

The statement above is completely untrue and shows ignorance of what we have actually been doing.

FileFactory, DepositFiles, 4Shared, Uploading, MediaFire were all relatively large file lockers and all of them have lost Paypal.

What you need to understand is that in most cases a mountain of evidence is required to have Paypal shut down a sites payment processing. All of the work we do is painstaking, detailed and forensic.

Larger sites take much longer to deal with than smaller sites. Stop File Lockers has been going just over 50 days. What do you expect to happen in such a short period of time ?

That said, we do not differentiate between sites based on their size or any other attribute. The sole reason you see more smaller sites shut down than larger sites is that smaller sites are simply much easier to shut down. That doesn't mean we're not working on larger sites, of course we are, but we're never going to give anyone the heads up to indicate who we are targeting and how.

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What don't you get? He's only going after sites that process with PayPal. Since PayPal TOS is pretty strict and straight forward when it comes to porn.

Actually this is incorrect. We are working to have all forms of payment processing shut down for every illegal file locker, this is our aim.

DTK · 08-18-2012, 10:37 PM

Lame fucking thread. AK's one of the few guy actually doing something about piracy and some dipshit has to nitpick.

versa · 08-18-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Lame fucking thread. AK's one of the few guy actually doing something about piracy and some dipshit has to nitpick.

Agreed. He is doing a great job.

scottybuzz · 08-19-2012, 02:58 AM

notjoe, if u care so much, why dont u go after them?

ak has his own agenda, let him do what he does.

i dont get it, someone is doing something good, but for some people of gfy, its not good enough... unbelievable.

08-16-2012, 06:35 AM	#1
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Hey Adult King, Why don't you have porn affiliate programs shut down for supporting piracy? A tube tube promotes sponsors, so, a sponsor is supporting a tube site by accepting the traffic and making sales off of it. Because the sponsor is supporting the tube site they're also supporting piracy (AK's words, not mine).This is no different than a link shortening website shortening links for piracy websites. Why have you/are you not going after the credit card processing of adult affiliate programs who buy traffic from tube sites? If you're as anti piracy as you claim you are then it would be a logical move.

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08-16-2012, 06:37 AM	#2
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Nice troll attempt. I have never discussed tubes in this context, you are being disingenuous for saying I have. I really don't appreciate your lying words being put into my mouth. As for answering you're question, you're an obvious asshat. Fuck off.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	wow, some parent's children

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papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	WOW WHAT A FUCKING DICKHEAD THIS NOTJOE CUNT IS what are you doing notjoe ? any fucking thing ? why would you have a go at adultking when he is doing more than most of us combined ?

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DWB Giggity Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 31,779	Looks like someone here either lost their paypal account or their short links, courtesy of AK.

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London Banker So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 352	AK is probably scared to go after big filelockers or big tubes. I can't think of any other reason. All his excuses sound lame.