What percentage are you getting for your Cam Traffic?

[thehand]

I can give you MORE*.....if:


1. You have a medium to large quantity of traffic

2. You are going to Webmaster Access in Amsterdam, and/or the European Summit in Prague, next week.
(If you are not attending, email me your details and I will do my best to include you in this pre-launch offer)

3. You can meet me there to go over the details.

About:

• World Class Live Product.
  
  
• Proven ?free to watch / pay for private / group ? payment model.
  
  
• Branding.For the past 3 decades, Vivid has been know, by consumers as "The World Leader in Adult Entertainment". Vivid is still in the press weekly and there is a built in customer confidence when a surfer is presented with a Vivid branded offer.

This live property will be available for promotion by ALL affiliates next month with ridiculously high percentage.

The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program.
Please hit me up via email or Skype (see sig), if you would like to set a meeting.

In most cases*

[xNetworx]

Over 50%?

[thehand]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

Over 50%?

Are you getting 50% with no minimums?

[xNetworx]

Originally Posted by thehand

Are you getting 50% with no minimums?

I'm not getting 50%. Just wondering if that was even possible

[thehand]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

I'm not getting 50%. Just wondering if that was even possible

Not really after paying models, billing & bandwith, but I assure you the profit margin we are willing to take for this product, is very small.

[peterk]

i get 50% with live bucks and just need 1 new sale a day to keep making 50% you can pay me more?

[thehand]

Originally Posted by peterk

i get 50% with live bucks and just need 1 new sale a day to keep making 50% you can pay me more?

We should talk - are you attending either of those shows?

[Roald]

65%, lets talk !

[peterk]

Originally Posted by thehand

We should talk - are you attending either of those shows?

don't waste my time can you beat 50% ? i send 3-5 new sales a day.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by peterk

don't waste my time can you beat 50% ? i send 3-5 new sales a day.

50% after model and transaction costs right.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by Roald

65%, lets talk !

See you next Friday Roald

[thehand]

Originally Posted by peterk

don't waste my time can you beat 50% ? i send 3-5 new sales a day.

NO.

I am not talking about conditional promos.

I am talking about strait out, flat percentage.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by Roald

50% after model and transaction costs right.

with live bucks I make 50% of what the viewer spends. so if he spends $25 I make $12.50. I don't know what they pay their models and don't care, I am happy with 50%.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by thehand

Not really after paying models, billing & bandwith, but I assure you the profit margin we are willing to take for this product, is very small.

you just said 50% is not possible but for me to come talk to you. why should I talk to you if you can't pay me higher % than what I am making now? live bucks pays me 50%

[Wizzo]

Looks interesting, lets chat next week in Amsterdam!

[thehand]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Looks interesting, lets chat next week in Amsterdam!

Sounds Jimmy, I'll see you there

[VenusBlogger]

Originally Posted by thehand

I can give you MORE*.....if:
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1. You have a medium to large quantity of traffic

2. You are going to Webmaster Access in Amsterdam, and/or the European Summit in Prague, next week.
(If you are not attending, email me your details and I will do my best to include you in this pre-launch offer)

3. You can meet me there to go over the details.

About:

• World Class Live Product.
  
  
• Proven ?free to watch / pay for private / group ? payment model.
  
  
• Branding.For the past 3 decades, Vivid has been know, by consumers as "The World Leader in Adult Entertainment". Vivid is still in the press weekly and there is a built in customer confidence when a surfer is presented with a Vivid branded offer.

Well I have lots of blog traffic, but any CAM SPONSOR I tried during the last 3-4 years gave me 0:15,000 conversions...

So, can you tell me what methods work best for your sponsor?

Since you have lots of affiliates you must KNOW what methods they use to convert you...

If you can tell me the methods to convert, I WILL send you my traffic, which converts great with PAYSITES between 1:200 and 1:300...

Just CAMS are impossible to convert, Obviously Im missing something here.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

Well I have lots of blog traffic, but any CAM SPONSOR I tried during the last 3-4 years gave me 0:15,000 conversions...

So, can you tell me what methods work best for your sponsor?

Since you have lots of affiliates you must KNOW what methods they use to convert you...

If you can tell me the methods to convert, I WILL send you my traffic, which converts great with PAYSITES between 1:200 and 1:300...

Just CAMS are impossible to convert, Obviously Im missing something here.

I would need to see your sites and how you are currently promoting. Please email my sig.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by peterk

with live bucks I make 50% of what the viewer spends. so if he spends $25 I make $12.50. I don't know what they pay their models and don't care, I am happy with 50%.

50% to affiliate should be 35% or max 38% to models. Livebucks for what I know customer pay $4 to $6 /min, studio receive $1.40/min to $2.70/min.

So this will be a new cam site from Vivid or it will use some streamray/streamate etc. models and api...

[peterk]

hmm this is bullshit, the title promises to pay you more % but then I get ignored after I point out that I am already making 50%.

you make statements like "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program."

care to live up to that statement or just talking out your arse?

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by peterk

hmm this is bullshit, the title promises to pay you more % but then I get ignored after I point out that I am already making 50%.

you make statements like "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program."

care to live up to that statement or just talking out your arse?

What are you talking about? You don't make 50% of gross spent....

piriod

you make... maybe 50% with the program after expenses. I make 20% on original sales with my cam sponsor and am happy with that because they actually convert.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by beaner

What are you talking about? You don't make 50% of gross spent....

piriod

you make... maybe 50% with the program after expenses. I make 20% on original sales with my cam sponsor and am happy with that because they actually convert.

wtf you talkin about, i make 50% from live bucks. GROSS and they convert well. lol you happy with just 20%??


if you send 2 new sales a day you make 50% and that is not hard to do, I convert about 1:250 with them and get a lot of return spenders.

http://www.livebucks.com/programs.htm

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by peterk

wtf you talkin about, i make 50% from live bucks. GROSS and they convert well. lol you happy with just 20%??


if you send 2 new sales a day you make 50% and that is not hard to do, I convert about 1:250 with them and get a lot of return spenders.

http://www.livebucks.com/programs.htm

There is the program (****%%*****), there is the girl (******%%*******), there is the affiliate (******%%*******)

There is no way you get 50% of the consumer sales. If you do, you will be cut off soon. Just how it works homie

[peterk]

Originally Posted by beaner

There is the program (****%%*****), there is the girl (******%%*******), there is the affiliate (******%%*******)

There is no way you get 50% of the consumer sales. If you do, you will be cut off soon. Just how it works homie

I don't know why you acting so dumb but all you have to do is go look at the link I posted. it says 50% gross on the site and i confirm that in my stats everyday when I check. you don't use them and don't know what you talkin about but you tell me i am wrong lol. in my stats when someone buys $24.99 it says 50% $12.50 is what my cut is.

funny on gfy you got one guy saying he has offer that will blow away all other cam sites but can't and another clown who can't read.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by beaner

There is the program (****%%*****), there is the girl (******%%*******), there is the affiliate (******%%*******)

There is no way you get 50% of the consumer sales. If you do, you will be cut off soon. Just how it works homie

I've been getting 50% for several years homie

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by peterk

I've been getting 50% for several years homie

So who is it?? I want in and so do about 50 of my friends. You tell me the sponsor that gives 50% and we are all signed up.

[bean-aid]

oh.. i saw. So you do 2 a day and get this??

if you send 2 new sales a day you make 50% and that is not hard to do, I convert about 1:250 with them and get a lot of return spenders.

That actually sounds really good, 2 sales is not that hard.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by beaner

So who is it?? I want in and so do about 50 of my friends. You tell me the sponsor that gives 50% and we are all signed up.

no offense but are you retarded? i said the name about 10 times already LIVEBUCKS and I even post a link but you still don't know??? they have been around forever too and offering same payouts. they were also live cam site of the year last couple years.

[lagcam]

Beaner, in addition to not being able to read today you are also showing that you don't really understand how cams work. Established cam companies like livebucks don't just rely on affiliates for their traffic so the amount of their business that they are paying out 50% on, is probably not that significant.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by peterk

hmm this is bullshit, the title promises to pay you more % but then I get ignored after I point out that I am already making 50%.

you make statements like "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program."

care to live up to that statement or just talking out your arse?

I don't know you. You have no sig, no prior posts of any substance, but I was still willing to meet with you and give you the benefit of the doubt. Then you started talking trash and spamming the hell out of this thread.

You are being ignored because I am just not going deal with you PeterK. This offer is for real webmasters looking to do actual business. You come in and spam my thread with your first post. The FIRST post. You should have waited for a reply before mentioning the other program, it wouldn't have been so obvious.

[hony]

Higher percentage is good but depends what it is a percentage of.

My biggest $ income is from a program where I get just 20%, while on another program I get 35% but less $ in total because they just don't do as much business.

So big impressive % are nice, but I'd rather have 20% of $100 than 100% of $0.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by thehand

I don't know you. You have no sig, no prior posts of any substance, but I was still willing to meet with you and give you the benefit of the doubt. Then you started talking trash and spamming the hell out of this thread.

You are being ignored because I am just not going deal with you PeterK. This offer is for real webmasters looking to do actual business. You come in and spam my thread with your first post. The FIRST post. You should have waited for a reply before mentioning the other program, it wouldn't have been so obvious.

20% is ok, 25 or 30 is great.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by hony

Higher percentage is good but depends what it is a percentage of.

My biggest $ income is from a program where I get just 20%, while on another program I get 35% but less $ in total because they just don't do as much business.

So big impressive % are nice, but I'd rather have 20% of $100 than 100% of $0.

True statement - we are trying to cover both bases

[thehand]

Originally Posted by beaner

20% is ok, 25 or 30 is great.

Agreed. When we launch to the public next month, you will be feeling more than great

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by lagcam

Beaner, in addition to not being able to read today you are also showing that you don't really understand how cams work. Established cam companies like livebucks don't just rely on affiliates for their traffic so the amount of their business that they are paying out 50% on, is probably not that significant.

I would just like to bump this... I will put my traffic and friends traffic if this is legit... my guess no. prove me wrong

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by beaner

I would just like to bump this... I will put my traffic and friends traffic if this is legit... my guess no. prove me wrong

You really ought to start reading threads beaner. It is nothing to do with me, I clicked the guy's link and looked at their terms and they appear as he said. That kind of rate is difficult to sustain if you only have affiliate traffic but if you are only paying out 50% on a small proportion of your sales then no matter how small the percentage left over for you after models and processing is, it is still extra revenue.

THAT is what I was explaining to you.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by beaner

I would just like to bump this... I will put my traffic and friends traffic if this is legit... my guess no. prove me wrong

Well if they are paying 40% to the models, as their recruiting site states here: http://www.homecams.com/models/en/program/whatyouearn well... you can do the math

[peterk]

Originally Posted by thehand

I don't know you. You have no sig, no prior posts of any substance, but I was still willing to meet with you and give you the benefit of the doubt. Then you started talking trash and spamming the hell out of this thread.

You are being ignored because I am just not going deal with you PeterK. This offer is for real webmasters looking to do actual business. You come in and spam my thread with your first post. The FIRST post. You should have waited for a reply before mentioning the other program, it wouldn't have been so obvious.

i am not going to be in Amsterdam or Prague so there was no way for me to meet you. i was going to try you out if could pay me more like you stated "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program."

i just mentioned which program i use and how much i get paid to see if you could pay more and obviously you can't. i am not spamming anything the only reason I kept replying was because the other poster kept saying i was lieing. if I was spamming I would have included my account in the link.

of course you going to ignore me now, you can't pay me more so i am no good to you.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by thehand

Well if they are paying 40% to the models, as their recruiting site states here: http://www.homecams.com/models/en/program/whatyouearn well... you can do the math

so what you saying ? live bucks doesn't pay their affiliates 50%? because it doesn't add up to you?

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by thehand

I don't know you. You have no sig, no prior posts of any substance, but I was still willing to meet with you and give you the benefit of the doubt. Then you started talking trash and spamming the hell out of this thread.

You are being ignored because I am just not going deal with you PeterK. This offer is for real webmasters looking to do actual business. You come in and spam my thread with your first post. The FIRST post. You should have waited for a reply before mentioning the other program, it wouldn't have been so obvious.

Wasn't the whole point of your thread to meet knew affiliates, "that you don't already know"? He wasn't spamming at all, but simply telling you what he was getting paid. I can confirm that on volume, livebucks will payout 50% to their affiliates. So because you now realize that there's no way you can match what he's getting paid, you decide he must not be a legit webmaster and you ignore him.

Many programs will pay in excess of 40% if you can produce volume. If you haven't done your due diligence to find out what programs are paying out, then its probably best that you don't start a thread making claims that you're willing to pay more than whatever someone is currently getting paid. I'm interested in your product, but have no plans to go to those euro shows and making that a stipulation for discussing your new cam site, seems silly.

[peterk]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Wasn't the whole point of your thread to meet knew affiliates, "that you don't already know"? He wasn't spamming at all, but simply telling you what he was getting paid. I can confirm that on volume, livebucks will payout 50% to their affiliates. So because you now realize that there's no way you can match what he's getting paid, you decide he must not be a legit webmaster and you ignore him.

Many programs will pay in excess of 40% if you can produce volume. If you haven't done your due diligence to find out what programs are paying out, then its probably best that you don't start a thread making claims that you're willing to pay more than whatever someone is currently getting paid. I'm interested in your product, but have no plans to go to those euro shows and making that a stipulation for discussing your new cam site, seems silly.

for live bucks all you need is to average 2 new sales a day and you will be paid 50% so it's not very hard to accomplish. thehand said he was looking for people who sent medium to large quanty of traffic, so even with his deal you would need to do volume.

[thehand]

Originally Posted by lazycash

I'm interested in your product, but have no plans to go to those euro shows and making that a stipulation for discussing your new cam site, seems silly.

Yes, that would be quite silly:

"2. You are going to Webmaster Access in Amsterdam, and/or the European Summit in Prague, next week.
(If you are not attending, email me your details and I will do my best to include you in this pre-launch offer) "

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by thehand

Yes, that would be quite silly:

"2. You are going to Webmaster Access in Amsterdam, and/or the European Summit in Prague, next week.
(If you are not attending, email me your details and I will do my best to include you in this pre-launch offer) "

Lol, "I will do my best to include you in this pre launch offer". Sounds real promising especially after you've already reneged on this, "The deals I will be cutting for these pre-launch affiliates, will be extremely good. MUCH better than current offers from ANY live affiliate program".

[adultmobile]

Even **BIG_CAM_SITE** pays quite high % to some big affiliates (programs, tubes - and this is why most of them got a streamate whitelabel) but this is secret deals in fact I am saying nothing here. Just saying, for volume - and I mean hige ones - some cam sites give you even more than 50% (**BIG_CAM_SITE** they pay the girls 30-35% depends where from).

So let's say a program give 55% or 60% to some mega tubes and member areas, and this is a loss for them but it is worth because you steal business to competing cam sites.
You do income on the side: as asiancam guy said, you can not take the "up to" paid terms and think that's 100% of traffic. If a progra pays up to 50% to some affiliates who send enough traffic and 40% to others, already net average paid to affilaites may be 45% or less. Then there's the "own traffic sources" if well managed that may be 50% or more of where traffic comes from, and so you can even pay affiliates on loss.

Actually, now most of the big traffic sources a cam site can get only if 1) pay fixed fee per month for the spot or 2) give 55%+ rev share and this delivers.

[vending_machine]

Webcam revshare mathematics is funny.. At the end of the day these could all be the same: 30% = 50% = $100 earnings.

[peterk]

if you can't do 50% then how much can you do? why so secretive?

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by peterk

if you can't do 50% then how much can you do? why so secretive?

More importantly, his product description resembles a dozen other cam program's sites that already exist. Maybe he needs to tell us why his is going to be any different.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by lazycash

More importantly, his product description resembles a dozen other cam program's sites that already exist. Maybe he needs to tell us why his is going to be any different.

It is unlikely anyone can do different (meanint better, not worst) software or business model or payout. The current vividcams.com it is a streamate white at the moment.. so either they wortk with them or should do "better"?

But they're Vivid, they have those stars monique alexander, jenna jameson, sunny leone, briana banks, tera patrick (any younger ones got popular yet?) well I seen Tera and some others in mfc and other cam sites, maybe they could lock a few stars to be in their cam site.... or do live porn parodies, avengers and batman live events or so... unsure how much anyone care to movie start in cam or to live porn parody in cam, but those are not likely to happen in normal cam sites.

[EliteWebmaster]

I'm really new to this whole cam thing. I am acquiring a decent number of nice cam domains shortly and while I usually sell them off like I normally do. After reading this thread, I thought maybe I should promote some cam sites.

For all you guys who are experienced in the cam business, what do you recommend for a new guy starting out promoting cams? Should I look out for any pitfalls or tricks cam affiliates are using? Basically any help would be appreciated. As mentioned, I would just have some really nice cam domains shortly, no sites. Thanks in advance

[Sly]

This thread is bizarre on about five different levels.