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Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 09:50 AM

How much time does it usually take? Anyone been thru?

Got some pesos of mine on hold telling to prove if i have delivered
against payment sent, so i supplied designs, waiting now....

baddog · 10-03-2012, 09:53 AM

They are usually pretty quick, but TBH, most of the time the issues are cut and dry. Other times you will want to close your account.

Black All Through · 10-03-2012, 10:13 AM

I've had 2 disputes one was a pain in the ass and I had to send in an invoice to prove that it wasnt a transaction involving porn and after that it took them over a week to evaluate the situation. The other took a phone call and the account was re-opened.

brassmonkey · 10-03-2012, 10:15 AM

if its not tangible goods your screwed

put it on a cd and mail them a copy delivery confirmation

AllAboutCams · 10-03-2012, 10:20 AM

When you start selling big amounts they fuck you in the ass big time i have had to send invoices for the items i have purchased, registered post scans just play there game and send what they need normally they are ok if its a physical item your probably going to be fucked if its a digital

Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 10:23 AM

You have received a payment that we believe may not have been authorized by
the PayPal account holder.

Account is ok, only some money are on hold.

That's what i received. Then i clicked 'Resolve Now' and submitted design mock ups.

kristin · 10-03-2012, 10:23 AM

Unfortunately PayPal takes the side of the buyer and not the seller. The only way for a seller to protect themselves is with a tracking #.

Good business idea - some type of digital good tracking #s. Maybe there already is one, I'm sure there is.

AllAboutCams · 10-03-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

You have received a payment that we believe may not have been authorized by
the PayPal account holder.

Account is ok, only some money are on hold.

That's what i received. Then i clicked 'Resolve Now' and submitted design mock ups.

It sounds like they are trying to get there money back by saying they did not authorize the transaction which is hard to prove they check ip and things like that

Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

It sounds like they are trying to get there money back by saying they did not authorize the transaction which is hard to prove they check ip and things like that

Right. Sounds more like that. But how is that? The user logged in and sent the money... what is a criteria when it becomes unauthorized....

AllAboutCams · 10-03-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Right. Sounds more like that. But how is that? The user logged in and sent the money... what is a criteria when it becomes unauthorized....

They will tell paypal someone guessed there password and sent the money i thinks its hard to claim it back this way

Kiopa_Matt · 10-03-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

what is a criteria when it becomes unauthorized....

Maybe the user is traveling, and logged into their PayPal account from a different country than usual. Things like that will trigger it.

Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

They will tell paypal someone guessed there password and sent the money i thinks its hard to claim it back this way

I dont mind if they send it back , a client has been paying fine, may be he needs to resubmit it after that? Should the sender be involved and call PayPal to clear it out?

icymelon · 10-03-2012, 10:53 AM

i got payment from affiliate sales from an adult site and my paypal was closed. still waiting 6 months for the money to be unfrozen. The wouldn't even reconsider. Said this is final and can not be disputed. Just FYI for anyone using paypal.

Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Maybe the user is traveling, and logged into their PayPal account from a different country than usual. Things like that will trigger it.

https://www.torproject.org/ - this could be it ...

kristin · 10-03-2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon

i got payment from affiliate sales from an adult site and my paypal was closed. still waiting 6 months for the money to be unfrozen. The wouldn't even reconsider. Said this is final and can not be disputed. Just FYI for anyone using paypal.

Bonus is you should get interest on that money ...

When we had our PP shut down years ago, they held our $$ for six months then paid out the full amount plus interest.

k0nr4d · 10-03-2012, 12:00 PM

Don't even count on getting your money. You've lost the case unless you can prove the owner of the paypal account and the client are one and the same. If they filed a dispute for any other reason they would lose because you can't dispute intangible items on paypal.

96ukssob · 10-03-2012, 12:45 PM

you are fucked

non tangle goods, might as well kiss the money goodby and move on.

next time have the person send the money as CASH in the options and not for an item.

Sid70 · 10-03-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Don't even count on getting your money. You've lost the case unless you can prove the owner of the paypal account and the client are one and the same. If they filed a dispute for any other reason they would lose because you can't dispute intangible items on paypal.

Spoke to a client. So far no problems, he submitted all the docs paypal asked. Will see how it goes. Worst case paypal should return money to the sender i believe, then he would pay by other means. I hope so.

anexsia · 10-03-2012, 12:50 PM

You can always give them a call, anytime I have called Paypal they've been awesome and always help me out/get shit done.

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LatinCams · 10-03-2012, 05:10 PM

I had one dispute there.
Bought some Jumping Stilts in a German OnlineShop.
But After over a month there was no delivery.
It took about a month after I started dispute until I got my money back.

Slick · 10-03-2012, 09:24 PM

Their dispute people, or the one I deal with, was a fucking moron. A couple of years ago, I sold a couple of PS3 games on Ebay and the seller first said that he wanted me to ship them to New York because a buddy there gets stuff, then puts it together to ship to him in the Phillipeans, but he just asked if I'd directly ship to him, I said as long as he pays the shipping, so he did.

He paid me on a Thursday night which I sent the games out on Friday. On Monday morning, he emailed me asking where his games were, then filed a dispute on Tuesday with Pay Pal and they froze the funds, I was like WTF ?!?!

Anyways, I had a receipt from the post office with his address right on it, however, since he was in a foreign country, the postal service says they can't fully track it, they just hand it off to their mail courier and it's good to go.

I figured I had a clear victory on my end and was confident, till Pay Pal ruled in THEIR favor !!! I called up Pay Pal and got to speak with the asshole that made the decision and after arguing my point, he gave me my money back, but he also let the other guy keep his money, so he got free games. I noticed in his feedback, after he tried screwing me, he did the same to another person

brassmonkey · 10-03-2012, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick

Their dispute people, or the one I deal with, was a fucking moron. A couple of years ago, I sold a couple of PS3 games on Ebay and the seller first said that he wanted me to ship them to New York because a buddy there gets stuff, then puts it together to ship to him in the Phillipeans, but he just asked if I'd directly ship to him, I said as long as he pays the shipping, so he did.

He paid me on a Thursday night which I sent the games out on Friday. On Monday morning, he emailed me asking where his games were, then filed a dispute on Tuesday with Pay Pal and they froze the funds, I was like WTF ?!?!

Anyways, I had a receipt from the post office with his address right on it, however, since he was in a foreign country, the postal service says they can't fully track it, they just hand it off to their mail courier and it's good to go.

I figured I had a clear victory on my end and was confident, till Pay Pal ruled in THEIR favor !!! I called up Pay Pal and got to speak with the asshole that made the decision and after arguing my point, he gave me my money back, but he also let the other guy keep his money, so he got free games. I noticed in his feedback, after he tried screwing me, he did the same to another person

i have some ebay horror as well. change you settings to canada and usa only

seXXXhub · 10-04-2012, 02:37 AM

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jerryb · 10-04-2012, 03:28 AM

In over 15 years with PPal I've only had 1 minor payment problem and it was fixed in a matter of seconds by rep -- always keep a clean slate with them and you will be ok. Don't play games in the back room -- never.

Kolargol · 10-04-2012, 03:49 AM

they used to block logins from another countries so you could not buy things when travelling. now when you move to another country for good you have to close your account and open a new one. Paypal sucks but I still use it.

Mr Pheer · 10-04-2012, 03:54 AM

I had a lot of disputes when i was selling facebook likes. People would order, I'd make delivery, then they would claim that I didnt deliver.

I won every single dispute because I always took a screenshot of their facebook page before the work and after, clearly showing that they received what they ordered. The majority of the time, the person that started the dispute dropped it instead of escalating the issue.

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Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Their dispute people, or the one I deal with, was a fucking moron. A couple of years ago, I sold a couple of PS3 games on Ebay and the seller first said that he wanted me to ship them to New York because a buddy there gets stuff, then puts it together to ship to him in the Phillipeans, but he just asked if I'd directly ship to him, I said as long as he pays the shipping, so he did. He paid me on a Thursday night which I sent the games out on Friday. On Monday morning, he emailed me asking where his games were, then filed a dispute on Tuesday with Pay Pal and they froze the funds, I was like WTF ?!?! Anyways, I had a receipt from the post office with his address right on it, however, since he was in a foreign country, the postal service says they can't fully track it, they just hand it off to their mail courier and it's good to go. I figured I had a clear victory on my end and was confident, till Pay Pal ruled in THEIR favor !!! I called up Pay Pal and got to speak with the asshole that made the decision and after arguing my point, he gave me my money back, but he also let the other guy keep his money, so he got free games. I noticed in his feedback, after he tried screwing me, he did the same to another person

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Mr Pheer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,887	I had a lot of disputes when i was selling facebook likes. People would order, I'd make delivery, then they would claim that I didnt deliver. I won every single dispute because I always took a screenshot of their facebook page before the work and after, clearly showing that they received what they ordered. The majority of the time, the person that started the dispute dropped it instead of escalating the issue.