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Brujah · 10-14-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick

I didn't hear Mr Obama bring any budged cutting ideas to this interview!

He's already signed defense budget cuts, about half a trillion dollars. That's a bit more than 0.012%.

Brujah · 10-14-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

People still debating over Obama and Romney without seeing the entire thing as a giant fraud

Don't forget Gary Johnson. The conversation mentions him too.

DudeRick · 10-14-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

He's already signed defense budget cuts, about half a trillion dollars. That's a bit more than 0.012%.

Hasn't happened and isn't likely to.

directfiesta · 10-14-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

The republican fiscal plan is posted at 1000's of places online. The cornerstone is not PBS or Planned Parenthood funding. They are just a few that were quoteworthy.

Still not a single link of those " 1000 of places online " ....

Probably will be done with the help of this guy :

PS: Vote for Romney, please .. nothing better can happen for the rest of the world ...

Brujah · 10-14-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick

Hasn't happened and isn't likely to.

Maybe not all, but it will cut billions and reinvest others into better (defense) programs.

Minte · 10-14-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Nope. Guess not.

I know you are capable of doing your own research.

I will give you a hint, the links have his name in it.

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

The point is big or small, things need to change to get this country out of debt. 1,000 small things add up to being a lot. ask program owners and affiliates that have many websites, one may only make a couple thousand a month but when you add them all together they are making good money.

you're a naive fool if you think anything is going to change. big government and big business go hand in hand and romney or obama will just do like every other politician in the last 30 years, serve their friends and donor interests.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 05:37 PM

Ranking Republicans have even said that if Obama wins it is pretty much a mandate to raise taxes on high income earners.

Reading between the lines that essentially says "yeah, we know it needs to be done but if people are dumb enough to elect Romney we won't have to do it."

Brujah · 10-14-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

I know you are capable of doing your own research.

I will give you a hint, the links have his name in it.

It was a Yes or No question.

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte

And if I had an employee that guaranteed he would reduce his departments budget by %50 in four years and he actually raised it.. He would be released.

(Reuters) - One month after taking office, President Barack Obama summoned the nation's top lawmakers and budget experts to the White House for a summit to figure out how to tame huge federal deficits.

Standing at a podium in the elegant East Room, the Democratic president wasted no time in reminding his audience, which included Republican congressional leaders, that he had just inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit in the midst of "an economic crisis unlike any we have seen in generations."

He gave a finger-waving talk on fiscal responsibility and boldly pledged to halve the deficit in four years.

Why do you think romney or the gop will be any different? they all break their promises and none reduce government significantly. its just the same cycle over and over with different sponsors.

Sly · 10-14-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Ranking Republicans have even said that if Obama wins it is pretty much a mandate to raise taxes on high income earners.

Reading between the lines that essentially says "yeah, we know it needs to be done but if people are dumb enough to elect Romney we won't have to do it."

We must have taken different reading comprehension classes.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

We must have taken different reading comprehension classes.

Oh so if he wins a second time suddenly the Republicans must work with him? When he is a lame duck?

No, they know what needs to be done.

They were not discussing if the Democrats get control of Congress, just what it means if Obama wins.

They know it needs to be done, will go along with it and then blame Obama. They will suddenly cooperate because they will have an excuse to play along (along with spending cuts).

icymelon · 10-14-2012, 05:55 PM

i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

He will probably first go after teen sites. Maybe Ed will get to meet his hero at the DOJ press conference?

brassmonkey · 10-14-2012, 06:02 PM

yo Ed google Mitt Romney vows to ban pornography

epitome · 10-14-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yo Ed google Mitt Romney vows to ban pornography

Oh but you see, he won't really. When he says stuff like that he is lying, but when he actually lies he's not really lying.

I know, doesn't make sense to me either, but it seems to make sense to his supporters. They probably have some kind of secret language to know what lies are real and what lies are fake.

One thing for sure though, Mormons are the least fanatical about pornography so we have nothing to worry about.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

i dont have to pull your links. Romney will do it for me when he gets elected.

Porn isn't my big worry, What Obama has done to the medical field has fucked us much more...

Redrob · 10-14-2012, 07:39 PM

Get ready for the next big fucking when the bond bubble breaks. Interest rates have to go back up and governments are going to be holding the bag.

Bankers will skate clear again.... and, they are banking on Rmoney to give them the pass.

BFT3K · 10-14-2012, 07:40 PM

epitome · 10-14-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Porn isn't my big worry, What Obama has done to the medical field has fucked us much more...

Real examples, please.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Real examples, please.

Have posted it all on here many times...

epitome · 10-14-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Have posted it all on here many times...

How about raising taxes, yet limiting testing, and making it where insurance companies pay less for the tests you are still able to do. Let's not forget that they can now tell you what doctor you are allowed to see or not, and where to pick up your prescriptions at. Drug reps are also becoming extinct under Obama's presidency.

As an early adopter of ObamaCare you are wrong on all counts. I can go to any doctor, going out of network just means separate deductible and 20% coinsurance, just like a PPO. I have to get four routine tests every six months that cost about $350 anywhere and I would have 20% coinsurance on them so I just go to the super cheap lab I found ran by a doctor that I love where I pay $75. It is a little more expensive than if I go through my insurance but I like it and am thankful he was there when I did not have insurance.

Besides listening to talking points ... or regurgitating them ... how about getting them from someone actually in the system?

Edit: oh yeah so far CVS, Walgreens, Albertsons and Publix all accept my ObamaCare prescription insurance where I pay $4 for generics after an annual $250 deductible.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 07:57 PM

Well I guess one way of not getting called out for being wrong is editing your post where you are wrong. Luckily I quoted it before that happened.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

As an early adopter of ObamaCare you are wrong on all counts. I can go to any doctor, going out of network just means separate deductible and 20% coinsurance, just like a PPO. I have to get four routine tests every six months that cost about $350 anywhere and I would have 20% coinsurance on them so I just go to the super cheap lab I found ran by a doctor that I love where I pay $75. It is a little more expensive than if I go through my insurance but I like it and am thankful he was there when I did not have insurance.

Besides listening to talking points ... or regurgitating them ... how about getting them from someone actually in the system?

Not true, this has just started going into effect in the last couple of months. and is not from "Obama care" All insurance companies have not started doing it yet.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Not true, this has just started going into effect in the last couple of months. and is not from "Obama care" All insurance companies have not started doing it yet.

So what is happening then is insurance companies are fucking with people to steer public opinion. Whose fault is that? Maybe its all of the Republican screaming about death panels and things even though every insurance company has always decided what they will cover.

Edit: the government currently manages my perfectly good policy. It is ran by the same people who administer federal health benefits. Since insurance companies can't figure it out maybe it needs to be government run. Works fine for millions.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:02 PM

Things have dramatically changed in the last 2 years. and what makes you think this is not inside info? Do you really think that would be my main concern if it was just because I heard someone talking about it?

Edit: maybe I edited the post because I felt it was something I decided against posting on gfy.

Thank you for taking that away from me...

BFT3K · 10-14-2012, 08:04 PM

Don't forget one of the reasons how we REALLY got here...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oSAzYWmsiwI

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Things have dramatically changed in the last 2 years. and what makes you think this is not inside info? Do you really think that would be my main concern if it was just because I heard someone talking about it?

OK JohnnyClips get out of here with your stupid shit.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

OK JohnnyClips get out of here with your stupid shit.

Of course, because you actually have no inside knowledge your going to result to name calling...

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Of course, because you actually have no inside knowledge your going to result to name calling...

No, I am calling BS because nothing has changed for the handful of doctors I know socially, nothing has changed for people I know with conventional health insurance and I have no complaints as someone in the system.

But yeah, I will listen to some guy on a message board that owns a small program and has "insider information."

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

No, I am calling BS because nothing has changed for the handful of doctors I know socially, nothing has changed for people I know with conventional health insurance and I have no complaints as someone in the system.

But yeah, I will listen to some guy on a message board that owns a small program and has "insider information."

You may want to go back and talk to the Doctor friends of yours that own their own practice.

Edit: I guess a guy that owns a small program can't have a family member who is a doctor that own his own practice.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

You may want to go back and talk to the Doctor friends of yours that own their own practice.

I do all of the time. My best friend is engaged to one.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I do all of the time. My best friend is engaged to one.

Here is a simple one to start with, ask if they still get clocks etc. from drug reps.

KillerK · 10-14-2012, 08:20 PM

Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:23 PM

I will admit, doctors are afraid of some thing. That reimbursements will go down a bit and the number of patients they have to see will go up. What you don't hear them telling people is that hiring a PA will allow them to do that without a real extra workload on them and that the money thing will even out with the PA(s).

The upside to that is mostly everybody will be insured. Since there are doctors left that believe in the oath they took, non-biased ones see this as a good thing.

Just like PAs saved everybody in Vietnam they will do the same thing here.

That doesn't fit in the talking points though.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Here is a simple one to start with, ask if they still get clocks etc. from drug reps.

That was done in late '08 before Obama and are actually rules from The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.

Let me guess... your inside source is a Republican?

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

You would be surprised. Some value social issues more than money.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I will admit, doctors are afraid of some thing. That reimbursements will go down a bit and the number of patients they have to see will go up. What you don't hear them telling people is that hiring a PA will allow them to do that without a real extra workload on them and that the money thing will even out with the PA(s).

The upside to that is mostly everybody will be insured. Since there are doctors left that believe in the oath they took, non-biased ones see this as a good thing.

Just like PAs saved everybody in Vietnam they will do the same thing here.

That doesn't fit in the talking points though.

Reimbursements have already gone down. And yes there will be many more patients to see, and in order for doctors to see them their quality of care will go way down, people will be moved in one door and out the other like cattle, just to try to make up for the loss.

I took a girl to a "diet doctor" to get some weight loss pills. The doctor never even seen her the second visit. the first one he talked to her for about 1 minute. The PA is the one who took care of everything everything. They never even checked blood work to make sure her body was in good enough shape to handle the pills. Luckily "we know one" and had this checked first. Is this really the type of care we want from our personal doctors?

BFT3K · 10-14-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

Same is true for the majority of Romney voters.

98% of US workers make less than $250K p/year.

97% of US businesses make less than $250K p/year.

If Romney needs more than 2% of the vote, he'll have to pull from that same remaining 98%.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Reimbursements have already gone down. And yes there will be many more patients to see, and in order for doctors to see them their quality of care will go way down, people will be moved in one door and out the other like cattle, just to try to make up for the loss.

I took a girl to a "diet doctor" to get some weight loss pills. The doctor never even seen her the second visit. the first one he talked to her for about 1 minute. The PA is the one who took care of everything everything. They never even checked blood work to make sure her body was in good enough shape to handle the pills. Luckily "we know one" and had this checked first. Is this really the type of care we want from our personal doctors?

There have always been quacks. It is not a new phenomenon.

Anything else?

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

There have always been quacks. It is not a new phenomenon.

Anything else?

Nice way to move around answering the question. I was just giving the scenario based on your post.

If that is the Medical attention your happy with then cool

Redrob · 10-14-2012, 08:36 PM

Some who make over $250K will vote for Obama, too.

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Same is true for the majority of Romney voters.

98% of US workers make less than $250K p/year.

97% of US businesses make less than $250K p/year.

If Romney needs more than 2% of the vote, he'll have to pull from that same remaining 98%.

Is that why Romney is leading in the polls? because of that 2% voting for him.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:39 PM

Oh btw the PA by law is allowed to take care of everything. They just have to be supervised by a doctor. State laws very but in many they do not even have to be in the same office.

We need to rely more on PAs and they will be the solution just like they were in Vietnam.

Far too many doctors are tied up with patients they do not need to see.

A multi-doctor practice should be ran just like a ER where you are triaged and that determines who you see.

Doctor offices are far from efficient. Most are still using paper charts.

Their own inefficiency are why they are falling behind and consolidators come in and buy them and bring them up to modern standards.

Surely you aren't against that...its just the free market doing its thing.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Nice way to move around answering the question. I was just giving the scenario based on your post.

If that is the Medical attention your happy with then cool

I do not receive medical attention like that. I can't help it that a girl went to a quack because she is too lazy to eat right and exercise.

BFT3K · 10-14-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Is that why Romney is leading in the polls? because of that 2% voting for him.

I don't even know what to say to that.

All I said is that both candidates require votes from the majority 98% in order to win.

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

Is that why Romney is leading in the polls? because of that 2% voting for him.

That flew right over your head... but since you went there anyway, Scott Rasmussen says that with Romney's two point lead in the polls "Either way, it remains too close to call."

SmutHammer · 10-14-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Oh btw the PA by law is allowed to take care of everything. They just have to be supervised by a doctor. State laws very but in many they do not even have to be in the same office.

We need to rely more on PAs and they will be the solution just like they were in Vietnam.

Far too many doctors are tied up with patients they do not need to see.

A multi-doctor practice should be ran just like a ER where you are triaged and that determines who you see.

Doctor offices are far from efficient. Most are still using paper charts.

Their own inefficiency are why they are falling behind and consolidators come in and buy them and bring them up to modern standards.

Surely you aren't against that...its just the free market doing its thing.

Now it actually sounds like you have some inside knowledge. I would think you would know exactly what I'm talking about on the rest of the problems.

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I don't even know what to say to that.

All I said is that both candidates require votes from the majority 98% in order to win.

Sorry my mistake

Dvae · 10-14-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Oh but you see, he won't really. When he says stuff like that he is lying, but when he actually lies he's not really lying.

I know, doesn't make sense to me either, but it seems to make sense to his supporters. They probably have some kind of secret language to know what lies are real and what lies are fake.

One thing for sure though, Mormons are the least fanatical about pornography so we have nothing to worry about.

Thats some convoluted logic you got there!
what lies are real = untruths
what lies are fake = truth

epitome · 10-14-2012, 08:49 PM

Alright, its Sunday, I have shit to do that I have been procrastinating on all day so might as well do it before I go to bed.

It was nice sparing with you Mr. Hammer.

Until next time...

(Great now I have MC Hammer playing in my head)

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SmutHammer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,159	Things have dramatically changed in the last 2 years. and what makes you think this is not inside info? Do you really think that would be my main concern if it was just because I heard someone talking about it? Edit: maybe I edited the post because I felt it was something I decided against posting on gfy. Thank you for taking that away from me... Last edited by SmutHammer; 10-14-2012 at 08:04 PM..

10-14-2012, 05:37 PM	#58
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Ranking Republicans have even said that if Obama wins it is pretty much a mandate to raise taxes on high income earners. Reading between the lines that essentially says "yeah, we know it needs to be done but if people are dumb enough to elect Romney we won't have to do it."

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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Get ready for the next big fucking when the bond bubble breaks. Interest rates have to go back up and governments are going to be holding the bag. Bankers will skate clear again.... and, they are banking on Rmoney to give them the pass.

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10-14-2012, 07:57 PM	#73
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Well I guess one way of not getting called out for being wrong is editing your post where you are wrong. Luckily I quoted it before that happened.

10-14-2012, 08:04 PM	#77
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Don't forget one of the reasons how we REALLY got here... https://youtube.com/watch?v=oSAzYWmsiwI

10-14-2012, 08:20 PM	#84
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	Anyone who votes for Obama makes less than $250k a year.

10-14-2012, 08:23 PM	#85
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I will admit, doctors are afraid of some thing. That reimbursements will go down a bit and the number of patients they have to see will go up. What you don't hear them telling people is that hiring a PA will allow them to do that without a real extra workload on them and that the money thing will even out with the PA(s). The upside to that is mostly everybody will be insured. Since there are doctors left that believe in the oath they took, non-biased ones see this as a good thing. Just like PAs saved everybody in Vietnam they will do the same thing here. That doesn't fit in the talking points though.

10-14-2012, 08:36 PM	#92
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	Some who make over $250K will vote for Obama, too.

10-14-2012, 08:39 PM	#94
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Oh btw the PA by law is allowed to take care of everything. They just have to be supervised by a doctor. State laws very but in many they do not even have to be in the same office. We need to rely more on PAs and they will be the solution just like they were in Vietnam. Far too many doctors are tied up with patients they do not need to see. A multi-doctor practice should be ran just like a ER where you are triaged and that determines who you see. Doctor offices are far from efficient. Most are still using paper charts. Their own inefficiency are why they are falling behind and consolidators come in and buy them and bring them up to modern standards. Surely you aren't against that...its just the free market doing its thing.

10-14-2012, 08:49 PM	#100
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Alright, its Sunday, I have shit to do that I have been procrastinating on all day so might as well do it before I go to bed. It was nice sparing with you Mr. Hammer. Until next time... (Great now I have MC Hammer playing in my head)