Copyright Alert System Coming Within Weeks - GoFuckYourself.com

Redrob · 10-19-2012, 02:02 PM

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American Internet users can expect to start seeing notifications from their Internet service providers if they trade files on peer-to-peer networks.

A blog post by Jill Lesser, executive director of the Center for Copyright Information, revealed the long-awaited Copyright Alert System (CAS) will begin "in the coming weeks" and provided some details about the partnership with ISPs to deter subscribers from infringement over peer-to-peer networks.

About damn time..... it is a good first step. Eventually, I hope tougher measures will be added.

Link to Article.

Paul Markham · 10-20-2012, 12:50 AM

Another step in the right direction. Not that I know anything. LOL

Pyewacket · 10-20-2012, 12:58 AM

Nice... now if they could apply that to some of the stolen content elsewhere. Here in Finland, the ISPs simply block access. No Pirate Bay here, and I don't miss it.

lezinterracial · 10-20-2012, 01:06 AM

Any idea how they will tell if it is copyrighted material being transferred? They aren't gonna block all peer-to-peer stuff are they? I downloaded a torrent of rainbow tables once, they aren't copyrighted.

SmutHammer · 10-20-2012, 07:35 AM

Good news

Is this why Hollywood wants Obama re-elected?

halfpint · 10-20-2012, 07:49 AM

We have had that over here in the UK for over a year now

Dirty F · 10-20-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyewacket

Nice... now if they could apply that to some of the stolen content elsewhere. Here in Finland, the ISPs simply block access. No Pirate Bay here, and I don't miss it.

I don't support piracy but over here they blocked TPB as well and i think it's a very bad trend.
Where will it stop?
I don't need anybody to tell me which sites i can visit and which not.
You realize this is just the start right?

Dirty F · 10-20-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lezinterracial

Any idea how they will tell if it is copyrighted material being transferred? They aren't gonna block all peer-to-peer stuff are they? I downloaded a torrent of rainbow tables once, they aren't copyrighted.

They check which ip downloads what. Or at least that's told to them and then they take action.

halfpint · 10-20-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I don't support piracy but over here they blocked TPB as well and i think it's a very bad trend.
Where will it stop?
I don't need anybody to tell me which sites i can visit and which not.
You realize this is just the start right?

It dosent work very well over here people just use proxies and there have only been a few cases where they have stopped people from using the net, but they just go to thier friends house and use thier computers.

SmutHammer · 10-20-2012, 08:04 AM

I don't really care about computer savvy people getting around the system, Anything that helps stop the average user from downloading pirated content helps

candyflip · 10-20-2012, 08:08 AM

You do realize that most of the ISPs in the US have been doing this for years, don't you?

They slap you on the wrists about 10 times before they even threaten to stop you from paying them $100 a month.

halfpint · 10-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

I don't really care about computer savvy people getting around the system, Anything that helps stop the average user from downloading pirated content helps

Well that dont make sense most of the downloaders and uploaders are computer savy lol. My son when he was in his teens knew more about filelockers and torrents than what I did which he picked up from his school mates

Paul Markham · 10-20-2012, 08:13 AM

Remove the money and whack 1,000s of moles with one swipe. Everything else is pussy footing around the problem.

If AK can reak havoc in a few months, imagine what could be done.

SmutHammer · 10-20-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

Well that dont make sense most of the downloaders and uploaders are computer savy lol. My son when he was in his teens knew more about filelockers and torrents than what I did which he picked up from his school mates

Those are easy to do things. I'm talking about the advanced people. Of coarse it all counts, but every little thing helps.

signupdamnit · 10-20-2012, 08:32 AM

The MPAA and it's friends will get protection but you the pornographer won't. It will still be open season on your stuff as usual. If anything maybe Manwin will get in on the game to block their content. Which is rather ironic when you consider their history and the fact that they could make a tremendous difference simply by implementing an honest "three strikes program" as Youtube has.

Something like this should be handled by governments and ALL copyrighted content should get equal protection.

DamianJ · 10-20-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

We have had that over here in the UK for over a year now

It's been brilliantly effective too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18833060
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/375865/p...rt-p2p-traffic
http://gizmodo.com/5926253/nationall...ct-p2p-traffic

Pyewacket · 10-20-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I don't support piracy but over here they blocked TPB as well and i think it's a very bad trend.
Where will it stop?
I don't need anybody to tell me which sites i can visit and which not.
You realize this is just the start right?

This is a small country of about 5 million. They get an idea and act on it rather quickly. Yes, you can get around the blocks if you want to. The situation brought peer-to-peer sharing into open discussions. Most would rather not risk their computers on these files. Thanks to our ISPs, it is harder to do now.

I know China has harsh anti-porn laws on the books. Yet, I see a pretty good amount of traffic from that country.

Rochard · 10-20-2012, 09:32 AM

But seems to be mostly for big studios for movies and music, not porn.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not that I know anything. LOL

You finally figured it out.

Barry-xlovecam · 10-20-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

The MPAA and it's friends will get protection but you the pornographer won't. ... ... should get equal protection.

This is the most likely scenario ... I just can't see the required annual reports of these publicly traded ISPs touting how much copyrighted porn they have protected from copyright infringement.

The other serious objection made is how will they tell that the file is copyright protected. Guilt by association with a questionable website (without a trial or a finding by fact)?

As much as you rant about the tube sites, from what I see; the majority of their content is now legitimate licensed sponsor content -- how would they possibly be able to discern the difference? Even if there was some way; the deep packet inspection would create a privacy nightmare for the ISPs whose reputations are less than glowing.

If you think the government or some big publicly traded company is a friend of the porn industry, a white knight coming to save ur azz ... stop hittin' the pipe ...

signupdamnit · 10-20-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

As much as you rant about the tube sites, from what I see; the majority of their content is now legitimate licensed sponsor content ...
If you think the government or some big publicly traded company is a friend of the porn industry, a white knight coming to save ur azz ... stop hittin' the pipe ...

It's moving in that direction but it isn't quite the case yet https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1086030 For every one person complaining on GFY there are probably a million videos illegitimately up on tube sites.

I think it's a monopoly problem. Why should the major mainstream entertainment providers get special protection against piracy whereas those outside of their selected companies and industries get none? Equal access should be a requirement if this is to hold. A pornographer ought to be able to provide a footprint or such of videos (in so much as is technically possible) and get the same protection a regular movie studio has.

It's going to become more of a question if and when a major adult player gets their foot in the door and makes sure THEIR content is protected. At that point it's contributing to monopolies with collusion form U.S. ISPs. Piracy is currently decimating much of the industry.

Redrob · 10-20-2012, 01:00 PM

If selected groups are kept out of the system, could there be some unfair competition or antitrust issues brought forward?

signupdamnit · 10-20-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob

If selected groups are kept out of the system, could there be some unfair competition or antitrust issues brought forward?

I would think so. Aren't some of these ISPs such as Time Warner and Comcast also involved in the movie and music industries?

Paul Markham · 10-20-2012, 02:13 PM

If this alert system is voluntary, then there's no reason for porn to get a protection. If it's paid for by interested parties, even less of a reason.

If a law comes in to outlaw all piracy and is effective. Manwinning would support to the hilt. Because they can buy all the content they need and get even more traffic. And yes they would 100% clean up their act and they would no longer need to update with more than a couple of videos a day.

Anyone who wants to dream the traffic on free sites will come and pay for porn because the number of updates was cut down. Should;

stop hittin' the pipe ...

No shining white knight is coming to save your asses.

Well put Barry.

xXXtesy10 · 10-20-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Remove the money and whack 1,000s of moles with one swipe. Everything else is pussy footing around the problem.

If AK can reak havoc in a few months, imagine what could be done.

Do you even understand what you post about? Wipe his cum from your eyes and think about what you just wrote and what bearing this has related to p2p piracy. God damn you are fucking stupid.

Va2k · 10-20-2012, 03:07 PM

Too me it's a double edge sword as Dirfy F stated *shrugs* Will have to see what cums of it.

Paul Markham · 10-21-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

Do you even understand what you post about? Wipe his cum from your eyes and think about what you just wrote and what bearing this has related to p2p piracy. God damn you are fucking stupid.

Can you show me sites where people share info for P2P piracy please.

DamianJ · 10-21-2012, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

Do you even understand what you post about? Wipe his cum from your eyes and think about what you just wrote and what bearing this has related to p2p piracy. God damn you are fucking stupid.

Paul doesn't understand much that happens online. He doesn't really get that the ethos of p2p is free. He only heard of usenet a few months ago when I showed him the 10TB a day that are uploaded there. For free.

He honestly thinks that if you stop the money sources of piracy it will be stopped. It's fucking funny.

lucas131 · 10-21-2012, 03:32 AM

hello big brother ...

can help antipiracy a bit, but may fuck up so many other things ...

Paul Markham · 10-21-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

hello big brother ...

can help antipiracy a bit, but may fuck up so many other things ...

Such as?

Removing the money is going to smash a lot of piracy.

For instance, removing the file lockers is easy. Stop them selling premium downloads on pirated content or make the processor liable and able to be sued by those copyright owners being hit by file lockers.

P2P as I understand it is supported by a huge network of sites linking the people who want to share. http://www.sportp2p.com is just one. Make advertisers liable and able to be sued by those copyright owners being hit by file lockers.

Obviously a line has to be drawn between a sit that's being abused by users, such as Youtube getting a pirated movie put up and a site that's for piracy as it's prime intent.

It won't reduce it 100%. The laws never do stop crime 100%. should we not have any laws because they're not 100% effective?

I suspect many who profit from piracy will hate the idea of it being stopped, hate the idea of people wasting time to reduce their income. Offer stupid reasons to do nothing. If someone was stealing from them, it would make them think differently.

DamianJ · 10-21-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

P2P as I understand it

You don't understand it at all. The clue is in the name. Peer to peer.

xXXtesy10 · 10-21-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Can you show me sites where people share info for P2P piracy please.

You are comparing apples to used condoms. You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.

xXXtesy10 · 10-21-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Such as?

Removing the money is going to smash a lot of piracy.

For instance, removing the file lockers is easy. Stop them selling premium downloads on pirated content or make the processor liable and able to be sued by those copyright owners being hit by file lockers.

P2P as I understand it is supported by a huge network of sites linking the people who want to share. http://www.sportp2p.com is just one. Make advertisers liable and able to be sued by those copyright owners being hit by file lockers.

Obviously a line has to be drawn between a sit that's being abused by users, such as Youtube getting a pirated movie put up and a site that's for piracy as it's prime intent.

It won't reduce it 100%. The laws never do stop crime 100%. should we not have any laws because they're not 100% effective?

I suspect many who profit from piracy will hate the idea of it being stopped, hate the idea of people wasting time to reduce their income. Offer stupid reasons to do nothing. If someone was stealing from them, it would make them think differently.

This is not about lockers. Holy fuck, like talking to a tree.

Paul Markham · 10-21-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

This is not about lockers. Holy fuck, like talking to a tree.

Read the part where I discussed the P2P problem.

DamianJ · 10-21-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Read the part where I discussed the P2P problem.

But seeing as you don't understand the very basics of how p2p works, any comment you make is as useful as your comments on how to get traffic...

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	If this alert system is voluntary, then there's no reason for porn to get a protection. If it's paid for by interested parties, even less of a reason. If a law comes in to outlaw all piracy and is effective. Manwinning would support to the hilt. Because they can buy all the content they need and get even more traffic. And yes they would 100% clean up their act and they would no longer need to update with more than a couple of videos a day. Anyone who wants to dream the traffic on free sites will come and pay for porn because the number of updates was cut down. Should; stop hittin' the pipe ... No shining white knight is coming to save your asses. Well put Barry. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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