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Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

This is what Catholics are told to believe. i understand you are not getting this but that is their current teachings/beliefs, not some verse in the bible.

Thank you captain O. Ever thought I could be or used to be one of them and actually studied theology just a little?

slapass · 11-06-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Thank you captain O. Ever thought I could be or used to be one of them and actually studied theology just a little?

Yeah it occurred to me but you aren't grasping that this is a Pope down belief so where is the issue? It is an ugly way to describe it but it is not inaccurate.

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

this is a Pope down belief

More news to me.
So Pope down you say? This must be the wrong Pope than. Looks like he explained it pretty damn clear.

To distinguish the Body of Christ in this sense from his physical body, the term "Mystical Body of Christ" is often used. This term was used as the first words, and so as the title, of the encyclical Mystici Corporis Christi of Pope Pius XII. In that document, Pope Pius XII clearly states, "the mystical Body of Christ... is the Catholic Church."

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pi...hristi_en.html

slapass · 11-06-2012, 08:40 AM

You can't make this shit up. The church really stands behind this. I have not studied it but I did encounter it.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...ctrine_en.html

"9. The Lord’s words at the last supper, ‘Take and eat; this is my body’, do not allow us to dissociate the gift of the presence and the act of sacramental eating. The elements are not mere signs; Christ’s body and blood become really present and are really given. But they are really present and given in order that, receiving them, believers may be united in communion with Christ the Lord."

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You can't make this shit up. The church really stands behind this. I have not studied it but I did encounter it.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...ctrine_en.html

"9. The Lord’s words at the last supper, ‘Take and eat; this is my body’, do not allow us to dissociate the gift of the presence and the act of sacramental eating. The elements are not mere signs; Christ’s body and blood become really present and are really given. But they are really present and given in order that, receiving them, believers may be united in communion with Christ the Lord."

Did you read anything I posted? Anything?
Otherwise send email to Vatican and tell them one of their staff members fucked up writing this Mystici Corporis Christi document and they don't know shit.

helterskelter808 · 11-06-2012, 08:49 AM

Funny that all Catholics are cannibals because they eat a wafer (which has to be the most ridiculous, illogical and inane statement I've ever heard anyone try and seriously make, and from two people who seem to consider themselves intelligent

), and all Muslims believe in "72 virgins" and Muhammad is frequently referred to as a pedophile, but when it comes to Jews, whose 'holy' book states that Jews should rape children, as long as they are under 9 years old, as well as cheat, rob and kill anyone who isn't Jewish, that's nothing, no problem, don't worry about it, no Jew really believes that.

But yeah, every Catholic is a "cannibal".

You k00ks are funny.

slapass · 11-06-2012, 08:51 AM

Yeah I read your stuff. Did you take a peak at where I got mine? Send them an email they fucked up their Eucharist page. Ever talked to a priest or priests about this? They all stand behind it. It is a pretty well known stance in my neck of the woods. The Eucharist is considered holy Because it is the body of christ. It is not allowed to be left alone, get dirty, etc.

slapass · 11-06-2012, 08:54 AM

No one should believe any of this stuff. I was pointing out what the Catholic church states. "They think they are cannibals." I think they are uninformed.

baddog · 11-06-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

Baddog, I'm taking no position here except that Michael does accurately understand what Catholics believe. Whether it's true or false, crazy, stupid or wise, is not my concern here, just accuracy.

Then explain how they could take Communion on Friday's before they could eat meat. You guys are a funny lot

sarettah · 11-06-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

"9. The Lord?s words at the last supper, ?Take and eat; this is my body?

That's just what they came up with when they were writing it all down.

Jesus actually looked at his disciples and said:

EAT ME!!

but they couldn't put that in the bible. Nope, wouldn't be prudent.

P.S. Yeah, yeah, I know, I stole it from Sam Kinison, SUE ME!!

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Joe Obenberger · 11-06-2012, 11:24 AM

For a long time, the board has looked like the little village in Eastern Europe that conducts the Running of the Jew on a daily basis with Michael as the guest of honor. In a country built on tolerance and respect for the views of others - and especially in an industry that cannot exist without those things, the tone and content of these posts is an embarrassment to professionals in the adult industry.

At least I provided a momentary digression into Catholic bashing for pornographers.

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Yeah I read your stuff. Did you take a peak at where I got mine? Send them an email they fucked up their Eucharist page. Ever talked to a priest or priests about this? They all stand behind it. It is a pretty well known stance in my neck of the woods. The Eucharist is considered holy Because it is the body of christ. It is not allowed to be left alone, get dirty, etc.

Yep, i read it all. Talks about body of Christ and Eucharist. And the document I provided explains that it does not literally means "the body" but rather catholic Church and faith in God. Pretty self explanatory. BTW, written by none other but Pope himself. You see where you lose me with your arguments.

Shotsie · 11-06-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

I just thought they wore funny hats had long beards and many wives ..Do they have gang bangs with all thier wifes together ?

I think you're thinking of Amish Mennonites with the hats and beards. Or Hasidic Jews.

The Mormon's do practice polygamy, though. Mitt Romney's grandfather had three wives and thirty children. Check it out: Mitt Romney's Mormon family in Mexico vs. the drug cartels

MaDalton · 11-06-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

For a long time, the board has looked like the little village in Eastern Europe that conducts the Running of the Jew on a daily basis with Michael as the guest of honor. In a country built on tolerance and respect for the views of others - and especially in an industry that cannot exist without those things, the tone and content of these posts is an embarrassment to professionals in the adult industry.

At least I provided a momentary digression into Catholic bashing for pornographers.

i always respected you but before you insult others you should have a look around in your own country...

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

For a long time, the board has looked like the little village in Eastern Europe that conducts the Running of the Jew on a daily basis with Michael as the guest of honor. In a country built on tolerance and respect for the views of others - and especially in an industry that cannot exist without those things, the tone and content of these posts is an embarrassment to professionals in the adult industry.

At least I provided a momentary digression into Catholic bashing for pornographers.

Running of the Jew happens in Borat's Kazakhstan not Eastern Europe.
Tolerance and respect? Wait a minute again. So when someone says "Jews can marry 3 year olds" its anti-semitism, yet "Catholic practice cannibalism on weekly basic" its a point of view? I know you're lawyer and all but come on!

helterskelter808 · 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

For a long time, the board has looked like the little village in Eastern Europe that conducts the Running of the Jew on a daily basis with Michael as the guest of honor. In a country built on tolerance and respect for the views of others - and especially in an industry that cannot exist without those things, the tone and content of these posts is an embarrassment to professionals in the adult industry.

It's free speech/expression the porn industry relies on, and free speech/expression is what you're complaining about here.

And FYI, most racist/religious attacks on this board are against black people and Muslims. Two groups I haven't noticed you showing any particular defense of.

Joe Obenberger · 11-06-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Running of the Jew happens in Borat's Kazakhstan not Eastern Europe.
Tolerance and respect? Wait a minute again. So when someone says "Jews can marry 3 year olds" its anti-semitism, yet "Catholic practice cannibalism on weekly basic" its a point of view? I know you're lawyer and all but come on!

It's much broader than this recent exchange; what Michael endures here as the lighting rod for his faith is abysmal and stands in defiance of every value that I treasure as an American. So as you sew, so shall you reap; if you dish out intolerance, you can hardly expect tolerance from a jury judging contemporary community standards.

I've come to know Michael and his wife over most of a decade and he is a class act. Smart, funny, and a gentleman in every sense that I can see. There is an instinct deep within me to protect and defend underdogs - it's why I defend clients in this industry. Whether the village is in Eastern Europe or in the fringes of Asia should not concern you as much as the dangerous dichotomy between the kind of tolerance that you would ask from a jury if you got into trouble and the intolerance and cruelty you show to others.

BlackCrayon · 11-06-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

I think you're thinking of Amish Mennonites with the hats and beards. Or Hasidic Jews.

The Mormon's do practice polygamy, though. Mitt Romney's grandfather had three wives and thirty children. Check it out: Mitt Romney's Mormon family in Mexico vs. the drug cartels

actually romney's grandfather and a group of others moved to mexico after the mormon church banned polygamy in 1890. they may have considered themselves 'mormons' but were not a part of the official/original one.

BlackCrayon · 11-06-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

It's much broader than this recent exchange; what Michael endures here as the lighting rod for his faith is abysmal and stands in defiance of every value that I treasure as an American. So as you sew, so shall you reap; if you dish out intolerance, you can hardly expect tolerance from a jury judging contemporary community standards.

I've come to know Michael and his wife over most of a decade and he is a class act. Smart, funny, and a gentleman in every sense that I can see. There is an instinct deep within me to protect and defend underdogs - it's why I defend clients in this industry. Whether the village is in Eastern Europe or in the fringes of Asia should not concern you as much as the dangerous dichotomy between the kind of tolerance that you would ask from a jury if you got into trouble and the intolerance and cruelty you show to others.

its very easy to insult any religion. there is so much retarded crap in all of them.

slapass · 11-06-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Yep, i read it all. Talks about body of Christ and Eucharist. And the document I provided explains that it does not literally means "the body" but rather catholic Church and faith in God. Pretty self explanatory. BTW, written by none other but Pope himself. You see where you lose me with your arguments.

So they are eating the church also. Yeah the whole thing loses me. I could never get the triune god thing either. Ask your local priest, I bet you get my explanation with hand wringing.

Edit: I think you are being confused by the word Mystical. He is defining the church and then makes the remarks that the body or people in this case need to help the head, Christ/clergy. The guy rights as clear as mud but being as he probalby extremely educated and is writing on a well, tricky topic, you have to give him leeway.

halfpint · 11-06-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

I think you're thinking of Amish Mennonites with the hats and beards. Or Hasidic Jews.

The Mormon's do practice polygamy, though. Mitt Romney's grandfather had three wives and thirty children. Check it out: Mitt Romney's Mormon family in Mexico vs. the drug cartels

Wow thats a lot of children to feed lol. I am not A religious person myself but always wondered if they do have gangbangs with all thier wives, cause I could quite easily become a mormon

DamianJ · 11-06-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Then explain how they could take Communion on Friday's before they could eat meat. You guys are a funny lot

*Fridays

Jesus.

DamianJ · 11-06-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

if you dish out intolerance, you can hardly expect tolerance from a jury

Huh?

So a jury treats people differently if they have been intolerant or not? Surely their job is to be impartial and treat people based on facts?

Are you suggesting people should be intolerant to intolerant people to teach them a lesson?

FFS.

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

So they are eating the church also. Yeah the whole thing loses me. I could never get the triune god thing either. Ask your local priest, I bet you get my explanation with hand wringing.

Edit: I think you are being confused by the word Mystical. He is defining the church and then makes the remarks that the body or people in this case need to help the head, Christ/clergy. The guy rights as clear as mud but being as he probalby extremely educated and is writing on a well, tricky topic, you have to give him leeway.

Yes, they are eating church as well. Just forget it, obviously its going over your head. Never mind.

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

what Michael endures here as the lighting rod for his faith is abysmal and stands in defiance of every value that I treasure as an American.

Endures what? He's the first one in topics about Israel and jokes about priest molesting children. he's nice and all, I met him in person as well, but lets not make him some Jewish warrior fighting infidels. Give me a break.

CyberHustler · 11-06-2012, 01:59 PM

Flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood...

See the horns on his head?

ilnjscb · 11-06-2012, 02:07 PM

If you smart fellows would focus on real stuff - this would be a paradise. How can you use logic to defend or "explain" something that not only has no logic, but openly repudiates it as a tool for life?

Jewish logic ...attempts to locate principles for conclusions already made - Ted Cohen

Christian Logic

Real Logic

CDSmith · 11-06-2012, 02:11 PM

After watching 8 seasons of "Big Love" all I can do is shake my head in awe over how these polygamists can handle multiple wives and survive it.

Most times I've barely been able to handle one woman, let alone three or... dozens.

Joe Obenberger · 11-06-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Huh?

So a jury treats people differently if they have been intolerant or not? Surely their job is to be impartial and treat people based on facts?

Are you suggesting people should be intolerant to intolerant people to teach them a lesson?

FFS.

Call it karma. We say in Chicago, what goes around comes around.

Attitudes of cruelness/cruelty and crudity to others are transparent in most bullies, and there's a good chance that a jury would pick up negativity about the intolerant defendant who now pleads for toleration, just from body language, but almost certainly if he took the stand in his defense. Yes, in many dozens of trials over 33 years, I've seen exactly that happen. (I've always thought that most big-time bullies from the playground grew up to become cops. I guess if they can't make the force, they gravitate toward the GFY board to pick on Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Catholics, etc. This is the nadir of the adult industry, and if the professionals I know in this industry were like the posters here, I'd find it impossible to fight for the values that protect them.)

helterskelter808 · 11-06-2012, 06:50 PM

You seem to be confusing the internet with real life. Always a bad idea.

DVTimes · 11-06-2012, 06:54 PM

Just Alex · 11-06-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

Call it karma. We say in Chicago, what goes around comes around.

Attitudes of cruelness/cruelty and crudity to others are transparent in most bullies, and there's a good chance that a jury would pick up negativity about the intolerant defendant who now pleads for toleration, just from body language, but almost certainly if he took the stand in his defense. Yes, in many dozens of trials over 33 years, I've seen exactly that happen. (I've always thought that most big-time bullies from the playground grew up to become cops. I guess if they can't make the force, they gravitate toward the GFY board to pick on Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Catholics, etc. This is the nadir of the adult industry, and if the professionals I know in this industry were like the posters here, I'd find it impossible to fight for the values that protect them.)

Was Mike one of them bullies? I know he served in a military branch. Or them military bad asses don't count, just those who became cops? Right?

topnotch, standup guy · 11-06-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

You seem to be confusing the internet with real life. Always a bad idea.

Words composed to communicate an opinion are just that.

It matters not whether those words are spoken, typed onto a keyboard or conveyed via smoke signals.

Your point?
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helterskelter808 · 11-06-2012, 07:14 PM

My point is totally obvious. Reply again if you seriously need it explained.

topnotch, standup guy · 11-06-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

My point is totally obvious. Reply again if you seriously need it explained.

People are judged by their acts and by their words.. and rightly so.

The medium matters not in the least.

That's my point.

What's yours?
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helterskelter808 · 11-06-2012, 07:33 PM

My point was obviously that how people behave online, and what they say, is not necessarily how they behave or what they believe in 'real life'.

topnotch, standup guy · 11-06-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

My point was obviously that how people behave online, and what they say, is not necessarily how they behave or what they believe in 'real life'.

You mean like Romney's etch a sketch campaign methodology?

Life doesn't work like that for most people.

Probably won't work for Mittens either.
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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,626	You can't make this shit up. The church really stands behind this. I have not studied it but I did encounter it. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...ctrine_en.html "9. The Lord’s words at the last supper, ‘Take and eat; this is my body’, do not allow us to dissociate the gift of the presence and the act of sacramental eating. The elements are not mere signs; Christ’s body and blood become really present and are really given. But they are really present and given in order that, receiving them, believers may be united in communion with Christ the Lord."

11-06-2012, 08:49 AM	#106
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	Funny that all Catholics are cannibals because they eat a wafer (which has to be the most ridiculous, illogical and inane statement I've ever heard anyone try and seriously make, and from two people who seem to consider themselves intelligent ), and all Muslims believe in "72 virgins" and Muhammad is frequently referred to as a pedophile, but when it comes to Jews, whose 'holy' book states that Jews should rape children, as long as they are under 9 years old, as well as cheat, rob and kill anyone who isn't Jewish, that's nothing, no problem, don't worry about it, no Jew really believes that. But yeah, every Catholic is a "cannibal". You k00ks are funny.

11-06-2012, 08:51 AM	#107
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,626	Yeah I read your stuff. Did you take a peak at where I got mine? Send them an email they fucked up their Eucharist page. Ever talked to a priest or priests about this? They all stand behind it. It is a pretty well known stance in my neck of the woods. The Eucharist is considered holy Because it is the body of christ. It is not allowed to be left alone, get dirty, etc.

11-06-2012, 08:54 AM	#108
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,626	No one should believe any of this stuff. I was pointing out what the Catholic church states. "They think they are cannibals." I think they are uninformed.

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CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 23,783	Flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood... See the horns on his head?

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	You seem to be confusing the internet with real life. Always a bad idea.

11-06-2012, 07:14 PM	#134
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	My point is totally obvious. Reply again if you seriously need it explained.

11-06-2012, 07:33 PM	#136
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	My point was obviously that how people behave online, and what they say, is not necessarily how they behave or what they believe in 'real life'.