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Old 11-24-2012, 04:43 AM   #1
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UK Couple have Children Removed for being Anti-EU

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UKIP couple have foster children removed from care
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"A couple have had three foster children removed from their care because they belong to the UK Independence Party.

Rotherham Borough Council said the children were "not indigenous white British" and that it had concerns about UKIP's stance on immigration.

It said it had to consider the "needs of the children longer term".

The unnamed couple told the Daily Telegraph social workers had accused them of belonging to a "racist party". UKIP said it was an appalling decision.

Rotherham Borough Council's Strategic Director of Children and Young People's Services, Joyce Thacker, told the BBC that her decision was influenced by UKIP's immigration policy, which she said calls for the end of the "active promotion of multiculturalism".

UKIP's immigration policy states the party wants an "end [to] the active promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism by local and national government", and urges Britain to leave the European Union (EU).

The Labour Party has called for an investigation into the Labour-run council's decision, after claims from UKIP it could have been politically motivated.

A parliamentary by-election is due in Rotherham on 29 November following the resignation of Labour MP Denis MacShane.
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The couple, who have been approved foster parents for seven years, were eight weeks into the placement when they were approached by social workers about their membership of the party.

The wife told the Daily Telegraph: "I was dumbfounded. Then my question to both of them was, 'What has UKIP got to do with having the children removed?'

"Then one of them said, 'Well, UKIP have got racist policies.' The implication was that we were racist. [The social worker] said UKIP does not like European people and wants them all out of the country to be returned to their own countries."

The paper says the woman denied she was racist but the children were taken away by the end of the week.

She said the social worker told her: "We would not have placed these children with you had we known you were members of UKIP because it wouldn't have been the right cultural match."

The couple said they had been "stigmatised and slandered".

Ms Thacker said she did not regret the decision, which was reached after "a lot of soul searching".

"These children are not UK children and we were not aware of the foster parents having strong political views. There are some strong views in the UKIP party and we have to think of the future of the children."

She added during an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today: "I have to look at the children's cultural and ethnic needs.

"I have legal advice I have to follow for the placement of children and I was criticised before for not making sure their cultural and ethnic needs were met.

"If the party mantra is, for example, ending the active promotion of multiculturalism I have to think about that... I have to think of their longer-term needs.

"I don't think [UKIP] are a racist party... I think they have very clear immigration and policies and I have to take all those factors into account."

She added that the children were placed with the family temporarily and were never intended to stay with the family long-term.

The council said there was no blanket ban on UKIP members being foster parents and that this couple would be allowed to foster other children in the future.

Political bias'

UKIP leader Nigel Farage condemned the decision and said the council had many questions to answer.

He told the BBC he felt: "Very upset and very angry... this couple involved who have been fostering for many years and are very decent people. This was an awful shock to them, not to mention the upset for the children themselves.

"Politically, I am not surprised at all. This is typical of the bigotry you get from the Labour party and Labour controlled councils.

"We have nothing against people from Poland or elsewhere in the world... we are not against immigration. We believe in controlled immigration."

He added in a statement: "They [the council] have to look at themselves in the mirror and ask who it is that is prejudiced? A normal couple who have fostered for seven years, or themselves who are blinded by political bias?

"Publicly they must make absolutely clear the decision-making process in this case, who was responsible for this decision and why."

In a statement, Labour said: "Membership of UKIP should not block parents from adopting children. There needs to be an urgent investigation by Rotherham Borough Council into this decision."

The education secretary Michael Gove said he will be investigating how the decision to remove the children came to be made, and described it as "indefensible".

"Rotherham Council have made the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons.

"We should not allow considerations of ethnic or cultural background to prevent children being placed with loving and stable families.

"Any council which decides that supporting a mainstream UK political party disbars an individual from looking after children in care is sending a dreadful signal that will only decrease the number of loving homes available to children in need," he added.

UKIP describes itself as a "Libertarian, non-racist party seeking Britain's withdrawal from the European Union".

It currently has 12 MEPs and 31 councillors, with three peers in the House of Lords. "
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:03 AM   #2
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:06 AM   #3
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:20 AM   #4
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"Rotherham Borough Council said the children were "not indigenous white British" and that it had concerns about UKIP's stance on immigration."

Thats funny, they are the same people who claim that there is no such thing as indigenous white British when they try and support mass-immigration!
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:31 AM   #5
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Why not BNP?
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im very confused on this one whether it is right or wrong.

On the extreme side, would you give neo nazi parents a jewish child to adopt?
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im very confused on this one whether it is right or wrong.

On the extreme side, would you give neo nazi parents a jewish child to adopt?
Is their oven gas or electric?
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:37 AM   #8
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"You Left-wing scum are all the same, wanting to hand our birthright to Romanian gypsies who beat their wives and children into begging and stealing money they can gamble with, Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law, the same Africans who sold their Afro-Caribbean brothers into a slavery that Britain was the first to abolish."

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Out of the horses mouth or is arse?
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:28 PM   #9
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"You Left-wing scum are all the same, wanting to hand our birthright to Romanian gypsies who beat their wives and children into begging and stealing money they can gamble with, Muslim nutters who want to kill us and put us all under medieval Sharia law, the same Africans who sold their Afro-Caribbean brothers into a slavery that Britain was the first to abolish."

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Out of the horses mouth or is arse?
I see nothing wrong with that quote, whats the bit you are upset about?
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I see nothing wrong with that quote, whats the bit you are upset about?
Of course you don't. That is why sane people would not let people like you look after children.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:08 PM   #11
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Is their oven gas or electric?
haha.. what the hell???
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:43 AM   #12
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Of course you don't. That is why sane people would not let people like you look after children.
so what part are you having trouble with, you havent said.
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thats' a pretty awful joke
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so what part are you having trouble with, you havent said.
Even UKIP have a problem with that quote as the guy was made to resign after saying it.

The founder of UKIP Alan Sked said "they are racist and have been infected by the far-right"

So you are further right than UKIP want admit to being which puts you in with the fascist BNP. Nice.
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Even UKIP have a problem with that quote as the guy was made to resign after saying it.

The founder of UKIP Alan Sked said "they are racist and have been infected by the far-right"

So you are further right than UKIP want admit to being which puts you in with the fascist BNP. Nice.
Just answer the question please, what part of the quote did you take offence with? And don't bother with that really, really dull "you-disagree-wth-a-black-man-therefor-you-are-racist" routine.
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I am not offended by any of it, I am used to living in a country where lies are passed off as understanding.

The whole diatribe reveals total ignorance and bigotry of the person who said it and reveals their bitterness and hatred.

That is why his own party made him resign in embarrassment.
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Just answer the question please, what part of the quote did you take offence with? And don't bother with that really, really dull "you-disagree-wth-a-black-man-therefor-you-are-racist" routine.
I do not take offense by such quote but I do not believe it would be the correct message to send to children who already had a hard life.

The quote referenced is obviously coming from a narrow minded person who is unable to correctly evaluate all facts and consider everything bad based on a minority.. It would without doubt reflect into the method used to raise the children not to mention tax dollars would be spend teaching kids to discriminate based on race / culture etc instead of individual actions.

Would you be offended if this statement was made by a black / Asia / Muslim about white people ?

In general I take offense against tax dollars that is being spend in any way I do not agree with, I do however agree to this action, I'm not offended by their statement I simply believe racism is related to your IQ which for the same reasons makes you unable to raise a child to become successful in a modern society
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im sorry, the 'implication' that they are racist?

they belong to a party that wants to end multiculturalism, and they have a household that is the epitome of multiculturalism.. that's shady shit
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Prime Minister David Cameron said that Ukip compromised ?loonies, fruitcakes and closet racists?.

Are those the qualities you look for in parents?
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I am with the council on this one - They have said they can foster again but it was inappropriate for these particular children to be with them.
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I am with the council on this one - They have said they can foster again but it was inappropriate for these particular children to be with them.
Right. They were fine for 7 years but now its a bad idea.

Personally I think we should not allow children to be fostered by socialists and communists. They will infect the kids with very bad and distructive ideas.




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I am with the council on this one - They have said they can foster again but it was inappropriate for these particular children to be with them.
yeah, they should only raise Aryan kids...
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Right. They were fine for 7 years but now its a bad idea.

Personally I think we should not allow children to be fostered by socialists and communists. They will infect the kids with very bad and distructive ideas.




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Its still fine - Nobody has said they can not foster. They had these children for a matter of weeks....

It makes sense to place children with the most appropriate people. If you have ANY doubt that the person is not the best choice then you have a duty to do something about it.

If you get to the stage where the people who make these decisions are frightened to act because they are frightened of criticism then kids will suffer. Then we will all jump up and down and ask why the fuck didn't you do something?
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Its still fine - Nobody has said they can not foster. They had these children for a matter of weeks....

It makes sense to place children with the most appropriate people. If you have ANY doubt that the person is not the best choice then you have a duty to do something about it.

If you get to the stage where the people who make these decisions are frightened to act because they are frightened of criticism then kids will suffer. Then we will all jump up and down and ask why the fuck didn't you do something?
Any doubt? Just because people that oppose the UKIP use the Racist Card in order to denounce views that they don't like (a classic tactic of the left),or find certain members that actually ARE racist, (as exist in EVERY party), it does not mean that everyone that follows the UKIP is racist or even a large minority of them are. If this couple had had some problem with the race of the children, they would have spoken up at the time that the kids were placed with them wouldn't they?

By this logic, then white indigenous kids should not be placed with labour or progressives, since they tend to think that white people caused all the trouble in the world and may act out that thought against the kids, right?

Guilt by association is a very dangerous road, especially a judgement based on nothing else at all.

If the council simply makes a judgment based on this one thing, affiliation to a party that does not include racism as it's platform but simply talks about cultural assimilation, as somehow proof of racism, and based on absolutely NOTHING else that the parents have done or said, I think that is utter crap, very unfair, and very divisive.




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