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Old 12-28-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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How Many Children Have Died of Hunger Since Newtown? Answer: 224,000

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Every day, almost 16,000 children die from hunger-related causes.

That's one child every five seconds.
http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/

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About 25,000 people die every day of hunger or hunger-related causes, according to the United Nations. This is one person every three and a half seconds, as you can see on this display.
http://www.poverty.com/

Based on these statistics, the answer to the above question of how many children have died since Newtown is 224,000

That's not even including adults, add them in and the number is 350,000 in the last 2 weeks.

Funny, I don't recall seeing wall to wall news coverage about that...
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I call bullshit on that. They're probably kids that shouldn't have been born in the first place. Use a condom next time and fuck all you want instead of birthing children into complete poverty.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/



http://www.poverty.com/

Based on these statistics, the answer to the above question of how many children have died since Newtown is 224,000

That's not even including adults, add them in and the number is 350,000 in the last 2 weeks.

Funny, I don't recall seeing wall to wall news coverage about that...
Why are you worried about news coverage? Did you feed a starving child today? Why not?
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:37 AM   #6
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would like to see the numbers for lack of potable water, I have watched a few documentaries about this and it really bothers me
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:51 AM   #7
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I don't disagree with that. However the larger point is why people focus on a relatively small number of people dying while insisting that freedoms and liberties must be curtailed to prevent future incidents from happening (which is debatable at best), and virtually ignore untold masses of other people dying. It seems at the very least... inconsistent. I care about all people equally. I could make the same argument for the media focusing on some dipshit celebrity dying and ignoring masses of other people dying, but at least in that case the media is not using that as an excuse to limit freedom.

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I call bullshit on that. They're probably kids that shouldn't have been born in the first place. Use a condom next time and fuck all you want instead of birthing children into complete poverty.
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What makes you think I didn't?

Actually, if you are being literal. No, in the last 24 hours I have not. But I did in fact donate $50 to http://www.savethechildren.org last month. Not much I know, but if everyone making a halfway decent living did it, there would be no more hunger. If you don't like that charity, you can use https://www.charitynavigator.org/ to find another.

So the question is; now that you feel like a complete asshole for assuming something about me which was not true (unless you are strictly conforming to the last 24 hours), will YOU feed a starving child today? Why not?

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What makes you think I didn't?

Actually, if you are being literal. No, in the last 24 hours I have not. But I did in fact donate $50 to http://www.savethechildren.org last month. Not much I know, but if everyone making a halfway decent living did it, there would be no more hunger.
If taking such an action would end hunger, people would be doing it. The truth is that it wouldn't end, much less change anything. Some people might be helped, but overall, shitty countries will still be shitty countries, rogue governments and brutal dictatorships will remain unchanged, fanatical extremists will still be fanatical extremist, shitty economies will still be shitty economies, failed states will still be failed states, Africa will still be Africa etc etc etc.

Keep dreaming though... its kinda cute.
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Yes, that is definitely a problem. If it really concerns you, there is a fairly new invention just in the last couple years it came out although not many people know about it called "Lifestraw". It is a really promising invention and very cheap. Much cheaper than traditional water filters and very portable. There has been good success using it so far. The company that makes it has a donation program if you are interested.

http://www.vestergaard-frandsen.com/...nate-lifestraw

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if a handful of people where murdered in your town would that catch your attention? Of course it would, despite the fact that murders happen all the the time in the rest of your country. Why?

Being concerned what is going on in your own backyard doesn't mean people don't care about the other stuff, you are just assuming that everyone's thought process is based on whats on the news--which is never true.
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Easy to be glib and sardonic about it. It conveniently relieves you of all responsibility to do anything and gives you a perfect excuse to refrain from helping (in your own mind anyway).

But in any case, sorry to disappoint you but I am not some idealistic crusader. I chose the world hunger thing not as a call to action, but merely to point out the idiocy of the Newtown imbeciles who are crying for gun control over an infinitesimally small amount of people while orders of magnitude higher children die every day and no one barely mentions it.

I could have titled the thread. "How many people have died in the last 2 weeks from legal prescription drugs"? Where is the outcry to ban them from the media? Oh I forgot, the pharmaceutical industry is like the number one advertiser on all the major networks' nightly news. Can't have any negative reporting on them even though virtually every one of these whacked out shooters in the last 10 years has been on some SSRI like prozac.

Or: how many people have died in the last 2 weeks since Newtown in Western Europe (with roughly the same population as the U.S. but with strict gun control) from being fatally stabbed, bludgeoned, bombed, poisoned, strangled etc.

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If taking such an action would end hunger, people would be doing it. The truth is that it wouldn't end, much less change anything. Some people might be helped, but overall, shitty countries will still be shitty countries, rogue governments and brutal dictatorships will remain unchanged, fanatical extremists will still be fanatical extremist, shitty economies will still be shitty economies, failed states will still be failed states, Africa will still be Africa etc etc etc.

Keep dreaming though... its kinda cute.
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I understand your point, however I am not so opposed to townspeople focusing on their local issues. I opposed to the media and politicians seizing on a bunch of dead kids and using them to further an agenda of restricting freedom on otherwise law abiding citizens. And for the record, no, I don't even own a gun. But unlike many people, I do understand that the rest of the Constitutional Amendments rely on the Second to facilitate them. Regardless if you think America is that "Shining City on the Hill" that can never be affected by tyranny, I can name numerous societies thru history that believed the same... mistakenly. Rome and Germany being prime examples.


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Being concerned what is going on in your own backyard doesn't mean people don't care about the other stuff, you are just assuming that everyone's thought process is based on whats on the news--which is never true.
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http://www.poverty.com/

Based on these statistics, the answer to the above question of how many children have died since Newtown is 224,000

That's not even including adults, add them in and the number is 350,000 in the last 2 weeks.

Funny, I don't recall seeing wall to wall news coverage about that...
because what happens every day is not news worthy. only stuff that happens very rare and is shocking is news relevant. and people in 1st world countries don't care what happens in 3rd world countries.
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come on people, this is the media.

if they reported every day about childen dieing people wouldn't read. The media have reprted it, people have read it and people don't care about it.

the media are in the game to make money, if they don't come up with new and "popular" stories their sales go down.
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Yes, that is the real answer as far as the citizenry goes. However, the answer as far as the media and politicians are concerned is because they can't milk those dead kids' deaths in Africa to play on peoples fears and sympathy to further their political agenda. That is the reality of the situation whether anyone wants to face it or not.

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because what happens every day is not news worthy. only stuff that happens very rare and is shocking is news relevant. and people in 1st world countries don't care what happens in 3rd world countries.
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That's certainly a part of it no doubt. But the bigger component is that there is no political agenda to be gained by reporting on it.

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come on people, this is the media.

if they reported every day about childen dieing people wouldn't read. The media have reprted it, people have read it and people don't care about it.

the media are in the game to make money, if they don't come up with new and "popular" stories their sales go down.
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I love how there's many people who downplay things close to home because of a larger problem. Just because a larger problem exists does not mean ones closer to home do not exist or are any less important.
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I was watching a trippy film where a child was born and they washed him in the sink. They have to feed them so they keep living. Economies really have to be improved, like trying to stop buying wrong products or wasting money.
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Why, when you see appeals on TV do the children look starving while the parents are well fed? Why should we care about those third world children if their parent consider them disposable and will only breed another one once the first has died?
What really pisses me off though is that just about all first world countries have major problems now with people homeless and needing help to survive, do all the do-gooders look to syphon more much needed money out of the country rather than helping our own first?
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http://www.poverty.com/

Based on these statistics, the answer to the above question of how many children have died since Newtown is 224,000

That's not even including adults, add them in and the number is 350,000 in the last 2 weeks.

Funny, I don't recall seeing wall to wall news coverage about that...
So what you're saying is "they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" ???? Or some bullshit like that?
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http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/



http://www.poverty.com/

Based on these statistics, the answer to the above question of how many children have died since Newtown is 224,000

That's not even including adults, add them in and the number is 350,000 in the last 2 weeks.

Funny, I don't recall seeing wall to wall news coverage about that...
those issues are caused by politics
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So what you're saying is "they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers" ???? Or some bullshit like that?
actually we like to say 'better judged by 12 than carried by 6'
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It appears the media has already forgotten about Newtown anyway. At least until their "New Years wrap-up" specials.
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I love how people who don't read the thread post without knowing what it's about.

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I love how there's many people who downplay things close to home because of a larger problem. Just because a larger problem exists does not mean ones closer to home do not exist or are any less important.
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Did foreign aid and fundraising for the starving kids of the 3rd world come to a screeching halt when the Newtown shooting occurred?

Were we unable to multi-task?

The plight of the 3rd world is neverending. It'll go on ad nauseum infinitum - much like the bullshit on GFY.
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Pretty sad commentary on the sociopathic tendencies of many Americans.

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What I don't understand about the whole situation is that every day in those countries, children starve because they're in complete poverty with no food or water, but yet the elders have the strength and energy to fuck without pulling out and having more and more kids. Why not put that energy into other things like farming ???

If I didn't have the food to feed myself, I sure as fuck wouldn't be bringing another child into the world. Why not send them condoms instead of food, that'd clear up the problem a while lot quicker.
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What I don't understand about the whole situation is that every day in those countries, children starve because they're in complete poverty with no food or water, but yet the elders have the strength and energy to fuck without pulling out and having more and more kids. Why not put that energy into other things like farming ???

If I didn't have the food to feed myself, I sure as fuck wouldn't be bringing another child into the world. Why not send them condoms instead of food, that'd clear up the problem a while lot quicker.
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