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Old 01-18-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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Stolen content vs Watching ripped movies

I was wondering cause i see allot of threads about people crying cause they are getting their content stolen etc etc.. (not saying that its a good thing) but can you really claim that you never downloaded a ripped movie or mp3 that you have not payed for? Isnt that the same towards the movie makers/actors?


Tell me what you think about it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:56 PM   #2
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I would like to see real stats about it shared by some All mighty, that would be much better, because lot's of people will say they are sinless...
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I like my music on vinyl, my films on 35mm (or if I can get them, 70mm film), my video game is an old pinball machine and I prefer to have my women physically infront of me not on a webcam.

I also think music today is shit, hollywood has not made a good film since the early 1990s and today's young ladies have as much class and sex appeal as the styrofoam container that their Happy Meal came in.

So I can honestly say that I have NEVER downloaded or uploaded anything stolen.

I also should mention I do not do to other people anything I would not want done to me. Considering my old age I am probably never going to be the richest or most well known pornographer ever born. But I have never bounced a cheque, cheated anyone or treated anyone with less than the respect they deserve.

So consequently I have accomplished being in porn for more than 40 years without any serious problems or lossing money.
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I only don't pay for Dutch movies. Everything else is worth paying for.
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The Dutch make movies? didn't know they were that advanced.
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The Dutch make movies? didn't know they were that advanced.
The Dutch are very advanced... 16 milion peolpe living on only 42,508 km2 but one of the 20 (number 17) biggest economies in the world (absolute NOT relative); number 9 on the list of wealthiest countries, number 3 on the list of best places to live (living envirement); small but highly advanced infrastructure; the worlds biggest company is Dutch: Shell;

As a matter of fact... the dutch are so advanced that the US asked them to do some watermanagement to prevent New Orleans from drowning again...

Do they teach you in your country about other countries? Or do they only teach you the best way to get your breakfast is to wait in line in your car at Dunkin Donuts while if you would simply walk in you'd be the first to get service?
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I like my music on vinyl, my films on 35mm (or if I can get them, 70mm film), my video game is an old pinball machine and I prefer to have my women physically infront of me not on a webcam.

I also think music today is shit, hollywood has not made a good film since the early 1990s and today's young ladies have as much class and sex appeal as the styrofoam container that their Happy Meal came in.

So I can honestly say that I have NEVER downloaded or uploaded anything stolen.

I also should mention I do not do to other people anything I would not want done to me. Considering my old age I am probably never going to be the richest or most well known pornographer ever born. But I have never bounced a cheque, cheated anyone or treated anyone with less than the respect they deserve.

So consequently I have accomplished being in porn for more than 40 years without any serious problems or lossing money.

You think you sound cool. You actually sound like a moron.
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I like my music on vinyl, my films on 35mm (or if I can get them, 70mm film), my video game is an old pinball machine and I prefer to have my women physically infront of me not on a webcam.

I also think music today is shit, hollywood has not made a good film since the early 1990s and today's young ladies have as much class and sex appeal as the styrofoam container that their Happy Meal came in.

So I can honestly say that I have NEVER downloaded or uploaded anything stolen.

I also should mention I do not do to other people anything I would not want done to me. Considering my old age I am probably never going to be the richest or most well known pornographer ever born. But I have never bounced a cheque, cheated anyone or treated anyone with less than the respect they deserve.

So consequently I have accomplished being in porn for more than 40 years without any serious problems or lossing money.
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The Dutch make movies? didn't know they were that advanced.
once i saw a mild erotic dutch movie with vampire.
Pretty decent
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There is many ways to download cheap music and movies. The point is that you cant sell whats not yours. At some point it will come to a end, someway.
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o well wouldn't expect a serious answer from fake ass bitches anyways.
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Happy meals don't come in styrofoam containers
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Im Dutch and even I agree with this statement lmao.

And of course 99% of the people on this board at least once downloaded an mp3 or movie they didnt pay for. Its only when it hits them in their own wallet they start crying. And this aplies to many problems in life
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The Dutch are very advanced... 16 milion peolpe living on only 42,508 km2 but one of the 20 (number 17) biggest economies in the world (absolute NOT relative); number 9 on the list of wealthiest countries, number 3 on the list of best places to live (living envirement); small but highly advanced infrastructure; the worlds biggest company is Dutch: Shell;

As a matter of fact... the dutch are so advanced that the US asked them to do some watermanagement to prevent New Orleans from drowning again...

Do they teach you in your country about other countries? Or do they only teach you the best way to get your breakfast is to wait in line in your car at Dunkin Donuts while if you would simply walk in you'd be the first to get service?
That may be case but as a country you still haven't apologized for
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hahahahaha

so the venga boys were ok?
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so the venga boys were ok?
im craving ibiza...
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Never been so no idea tbh ;)
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me neither, but the venga boys make it sound so fun....
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Horrible stuff really. Steal it if you can for no other reason than to destroy it.
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Horrible stuff really. Steal it if you can for no other reason than to destroy it.
You really are a hater aren't you...??? why don't you get that titless minor looking thing out of your avatar... you don't want to make us think weird shit do you?
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im craving ibiza...

You missed it.

10 years ago Ibiza was amazing.... but it's past it's prime now, a bit stale and contrived, unfortunately. Not the same energy anymore IMHO....







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You missed it.

10 years ago Ibiza was amazing.... but it's past it's prime now, a bit stale and contrived, unfortunately. Not the same energy anymore IMHO....







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Actually, i think you just got 10 years older and have become an old fart. Ever consider that a possibility?
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Regarding the OP. Pretty much everyone has watched a ripped movie. Your buddy says, "Hey, I have such and such movie on my laptop, do you want it?" And you say"Sure!" Obviously it is wrong, but I would bet that almost everyone has done it, no matter how principled.

A more apt comparison might be for those complaining about content theft, and who would then join and pay for, a torrent site or filesharing site, (thus monetizing the stolen content and feeding the stolen content industry into a huge machine).




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Actually, i think you just got 10 years older and have become an old fart. Ever consider that a possibility?

Sure, that's possible. But I didn't stop partying, I moved on and found the next fun place.

But throughout my life, I have found that certain places or times where a phenomenon of magic energy comes together in a certain way, there is only have a limited lifespan, then it moves on to another place or circumstance. There is almost a critical mass whereby too many people know about something, and too many people angle in to exploit it, and it goes a little too far, and it loses that initial spark.

When that happens you can go find where that next new fresh thing is.

Even this business. In the beginning, the energy, the parties, the crazy shows, everything was much more spontaneous and on the move.


Is it possible that I moved on internally? Sure. But I have seen this pattern through many things in my life. There is a certain period of a special, magic time within a circle of certain people coming together in a certain way.... and then it moves on.


Anyone else see this phenomenon?





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I like my music on vinyl, my films on 35mm (or if I can get them, 70mm film), my video game is an old pinball machine and I prefer to have my women physically infront of me not on a webcam.

I also think music today is shit, hollywood has not made a good film since the early 1990s and today's young ladies have as much class and sex appeal as the styrofoam container that their Happy Meal came in.

So I can honestly say that I have NEVER downloaded or uploaded anything stolen.

I also should mention I do not do to other people anything I would not want done to me. Considering my old age I am probably never going to be the richest or most well known pornographer ever born. But I have never bounced a cheque, cheated anyone or treated anyone with less than the respect they deserve.

So consequently I have accomplished being in porn for more than 40 years without any serious problems or lossing money.
every generation says the same thing about the next generation. the only real difference...you were young then and you aren't now. was the same the generation before you, the generation before that one and many generations after you. the older people get the more nostalgic they get.
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Sure, that's possible. But I didn't stop partying, I moved on and found the next fun place.

But throughout my life, I have found that certain places or times where a phenomenon of magic energy comes together in a certain way, there is only have a limited lifespan, then it moves on to another place or circumstance. There is almost a critical mass whereby too many people know about something, and too many people angle in to exploit it, and it goes a little too far, and it loses that initial spark.

When that happens you can go find where that next new fresh thing is.

Even this business. In the beginning, the energy, the parties, the crazy shows, everything was much more spontaneous and on the move.


Is it possible that I moved on internally? Sure. But I have seen this pattern through many things in my life. There is a certain period of a special, magic time within a circle of certain people coming together in a certain way.... and then it moves on.


Anyone else see this phenomenon?





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and everyone just happens to see this or something similar somewhere no matter how old they are or where they come from at the prime of their young lives. quite the coincidence.
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and everyone just happens to see this or something similar somewhere no matter how old they are or where they come from at the prime of their young lives. quite the coincidence.
Exactly. You are actually proving my point. Things are never static. They ALWAYS change.

Notice how nightclubs open, become HUGE, and then become less and less popular until they close?

Also, would you say that this business is the same as it once was, say 10 years ago? Or has it changed?



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Sure, that's possible. But I didn't stop partying, I moved on and found the next fun place.

But throughout my life, I have found that certain places or times where a phenomenon of magic energy comes together in a certain way, there is only have a limited lifespan, then it moves on to another place or circumstance. There is almost a critical mass whereby too many people know about something, and too many people angle in to exploit it, and it goes a little too far, and it loses that initial spark.

When that happens you can go find where that next new fresh thing is.

Even this business. In the beginning, the energy, the parties, the crazy shows, everything was much more spontaneous and on the move.


Is it possible that I moved on internally? Sure. But I have seen this pattern through many things in my life. There is a certain period of a special, magic time within a circle of certain people coming together in a certain way.... and then it moves on.


Anyone else see this phenomenon?





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Most definitely, yes. I see it mostly in hobbies and interests I once had...that no longer hold appeal as I get older.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:32 AM   #38
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It's a good question but there are differences. The main one I can think of is that you don't see The Pirate Bay at the top of the music and movie industries as Manwin is with adult. To make a valid comparison with what is happening with adult we would have to say that The Pirate Bay is now the number one in the music, movie, and television industries and everyone else such as Viacom, MGM, Universal, etc are being pushed out of business or The Pirate Bay is buying them out for pennies on the dollar. This is what happened in adult and this is what is continuing to happen in adult. The people pushing the piracy have taken over the industry and decimated the paysite business.

Please, I don't want to hear someone talk about how things are great you just need to bla bla bla, it's obvious things aren't great in the adult paysite business as compared to before. The people making these comments typically are pirates themselves, do a significant portion of business with pirates, or end up selling or leaving the business within a couple years indicating that they were probably bullshitting.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:38 AM   #39
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And of course 99% of the people on this board at least once downloaded an mp3 or movie they didnt pay for. Its only when it hits them in their own wallet they start crying. And this aplies to many problems in life

The more valid question is how many people here have sites where they are offering rips of hollywood dvds and music albums? Probably very few. It's a valid ethical argument that you are making but it's a total strawman. Most of the talk on this board is against people on the distribution side of piracy in adult. It isn't on consumption. We're upset about the scumbags who got rich by pirating out content and in the process helped to decimate the paysite industry hurting thousands or even tens of thousands of people in the business.
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The more valid question is how many people here have sites where they are offering rips of hollywood dvds and music albums? Probably very few. It's a valid ethical argument that you are making but it's a total strawman. Most of the talk on this board is against people on the distribution side of piracy in adult. It isn't on consumption. We're upset about the scumbags who got rich by pirating out content and in the process helped to decimate the paysite industry hurting thousands or even tens of thousands of people in the business.
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The more valid question is how many people here have sites where they are offering rips of hollywood dvds and music albums? Probably very few. It's a valid ethical argument that you are making but it's a total strawman. Most of the talk on this board is against people on the distribution side of piracy in adult. It isn't on consumption. We're upset about the scumbags who got rich by pirating out content and in the process helped to decimate the paysite industry hurting thousands or even tens of thousands of people in the business.
Agreed.

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every generation says the same thing about the next generation. the only real difference...you were young then and you aren't now. was the same the generation before you, the generation before that one and many generations after you. the older people get the more nostalgic they get.
I am not nostalgic....
I just see the drop in the western world's collective intelligence. This intelligence void appears to have started about 10 years ago and sadly it is growing at an exponential rate.
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Styrofoam, paper, cardboard or whatever else...
I do not deal with clowns. And if I want to see clowns, I will go to a circus or just scroll up in this thread.
Ya . Scroll back up to that rediculous post that tells of better days when you were a young lad. Of better days before pirated music. Clown
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I am not nostalgic....
I just see the drop in the western world's collective intelligence. This intelligence void appears to have started about 10 years ago and sadly it is growing at an exponential rate.
I bet people who hang with you want commit suicide out of pure boredom.
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I think WATCHING or LISTENING to a d/l...is NOT the same as stealing content and PROFITING from it.
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its the same... its not paying for stuff you are supposed to pay for.
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its the same... its not paying for stuff you are supposed to pay for.
you are right, of course it's the same...

just view it in "real world" terms:
you steal a cd from a store... does it make any difference if you then use the cd yourself, or if you sell it to someone, or perhaps if you give the cd to a friend for free?

At the end of the day a cd was stolen and the store is out of $10, it's completely irrelevant if the thief ended up making $$ in the process or not...
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I bet people who hang with you want commit suicide out of pure boredom.
Tell you what come and hang out with me and we will see what happens.
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