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Old 01-23-2013, 03:59 PM   #1
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Apple stock tanking 11% as we speak...

Geez...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL

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Old 01-23-2013, 05:20 PM   #2
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Either one of this two options:

1. Everyone on GFY invested their hard earned cash in different companies, than apple.

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2. Gfy is a kids room, fucking around with bullshit stuff more th
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so people lost 10% of their apple fortune?
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down 9+% in afterhours trading..
you know some shit going down when the stock is up during regular hours and then tanks 10% in after hour trading.
btw, i once used a low sell trigger through ameritrade, the stock tanked in afterhours but didnt sell mine until regular business hours at which time it was way lower than my trigger and I lost out..big (well not big but bigger than if it had sold on the trigger)
banks always win.
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down 9+% in afterhours trading..
you know some shit going down when the stock is up during regular hours and then tanks 10% in after hour trading.
btw, i once used a low sell trigger through ameritrade, the stock tanked in afterhours but didnt sell mine until regular business hours at which time it was way lower than my trigger and I lost out..big (well not big but bigger than if it had sold on the trigger)
banks always win.
You set your trigger wrong or you were at a broker did not offer that option then. They all do now.
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You set your trigger wrong or you were at a broker did not offer that option then. They all do now.
they told me my account didnt allow for triggered sales during afterhours trade since companies pay additional for the prvildge to trade afterhours, i felt very very scammed.
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They will be fine. Apple is a long term investement.
not many tech companies last a long time, look at Sony for example, they are in a very similar business as Apple... not too long ago they were an electronics giant everyone was raving about, where are they now?

in my opinion, apple's future isn't looking too bright... milking apple fans with a new iphone/ipad every 6 months is going to dry up sooner than later...
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not many tech companies last a long time, look at Sony for example, they are in a very similar business as Apple... not too long ago they were an electronics giant everyone was raving about, where are they now?

in my opinion, apple's future isn't looking too bright... milking apple fans with a new iphone/ipad every 6 months is going to dry up sooner than later...
Until they invent flying cars j/k. I have faith in both Apple and Google for long term investements. I like Disney as well. Who doesn't love Mickey The Mouse and Donald Duck. The stock market is like gambling. Buy the software and do your research. You win some and lose some. Hope you win more than you lose but you have to be in it to win it ;)
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I hate everything about Apple except for the stock value which will continue to increase and I have some money where my mouth, or keyboard in this case, is.

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I shorted at $630 on the way up, wasn't looking too good when hit $700 but now I'm in the money

It will probably still go down a bit then it'll be time to reverse the position.
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apple is DONE...will be around $250-300 by end of 2013

not enough wannabe hipster fanboys in the world to buy their overpriced technologically obsolete shit
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I concur. The Apple hype is unmatched and unbelievable at best.

Of course i regret buying bank stock/shares in 2007 instead of Apple, but that is another discussion;-)
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With Windows 8 available on tablets and mobile processors being improved all the time, Ipads may end up being a niche product like their Mac counterparts.
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Sold 47.8 million iPhones in the December quarter, 29% higher than a year ago. iPad units (includes new iPad Mini) were solid at 22.9 million, a jump of 48% over last year.
Total Greater China revenue including retail was $7.3 billion, up 62% from a year ago.
So all ok, excep Mac units 4.06 million, dropping 22% year over year, but who cares, report is records for total revenue, iPhone units, and iPad units...

It is just investors panicking, because "Steve Jobs is dead" and "Android is by google anbd samsung who are so cool now".

Also seriously, 500 billion dollar value for Apple make no sense is 3 times more it makese sense, so -10% is just great, should be -60% to correct into a real market value.
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Sold 47.8 million iPhones in the December quarter, 29% higher than a year ago. iPad units (includes new iPad Mini) were solid at 22.9 million, a jump of 48% over last year.
Total Greater China revenue including retail was $7.3 billion, up 62% from a year ago.
So all ok, excep Mac units 4.06 million, dropping 22% year over year, but who cares, report is records for total revenue, iPhone units, and iPad units...

It is just investors panicking, because "Steve Jobs is dead" and "Android is by google anbd samsung who are so cool now".

Also seriously, 500 billion dollar value for Apple make no sense is 3 times more it makese sense, so -10% is just great, should be -60% to correct into a real market value.
I'm predicting, as I have in the past, that the apple / PC / windows / zerox mouse / server era is over, but it won't show for 7-10 years because the disruptive force is not available yet.

Probably AI though. Certainly in 10 years biofeedback and responsive AI will be possible, though probably not adopted to business.
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Yes, the surface was a massive success.

Oh wait, no it wasn't.

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"As an investor, therefore, are you buying a company with high growth and continued high profits, slowing growth and the same high profits, or the same growth and (due to cheaper products) lower profit? It really isn't clear. More cynically, this is a catch 22: high numbers mean saturation (bad), and low numbers mean slowing growth (bad).

Finally, Apple has got to the point where all news is bad news."

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"As an investor, therefore, are you buying a company with high growth and continued high profits, slowing growth and the same high profits, or the same growth and (due to cheaper products) lower profit? It really isn't clear. More cynically, this is a catch 22: high numbers mean saturation (bad), and low numbers mean slowing growth (bad).

Finally, Apple has got to the point where all news is bad news."

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not enough wannabe hipster fanboys in the world to buy their overpriced technologically obsolete shit
Another bitter Windows user. You are wrong. All of these kids and adults with iPods and iphones are now getting iPads, imacs and such. Their products work very well together, hold their value and last a long time. Stocks go up and down.
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Oh wait, no it wasn't.

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The Surface use Windows 8 RT, is sold in just 8 countries and only via Microsoft online store. Had it been sold worldwide and in physical stores as well like other tablets they would probably have sold ok.

Besides many people are waiting for the Surface Pro instead. With Windows 8, better resolution and included pen.

Who is going to buy an ipad two years from now, when you can buy tablets with much better functionality.

1. Windows 8 making it able to serve as a productivity PC running all Windows software - not just apps.

2. Microsoft Office 2013.

3. SD card reader, USB 3.0, Mini Display Port and pen support.

4. Multiple tablet choices (designs).

To sum it up it will be tablets with laptop capabilities.

We'll see what happens, but unless Apple start to innovate again, they will be surpassed by both Microsoft and Google.
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no its a calculated financial opinion based on empirical data, market conditions, world economy, exchange rates, oil prices and more...

AAPL $250-300 by end of 2013...you got it here first!
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WTF? Speak English or go back to the kid's rooms. Bad illiterate!
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Sony didn't last long? Sony was created ten years before Steve Jobs was porn and they still list in the Fortune top 100.....
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Good point. Sony was Steve Jobs mentor.
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Ok, you get the genius award for the month. One day profit on 455 strike puts was 400%.
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they are still going, but their stock price is currently at about one tenth their peak...

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Thanks! Been doing that trade for a while now.. Best trade is to buy calls or puts the day before goog announces earnings. I saw a client make $2.1 million dollars on a $100,000 bet. 2100% return. Crazy.
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I'm no Jim Cramer, but you aren't supposed to but at a peak.

That being said, Apple is a STRONG buy right now IMO.
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That being said, Apple is a STRONG buy right now IMO.
I recall your last "strong buy" did so well
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Besides many people are waiting for the Surface Pro instead. With Windows 8, better resolution and included pen.
Oh yeah, a pen and a two hour battery life!

Windows has been available on tablets for ten years plus. No one wanted it.
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The market is pretty crazy right now. Its behaving very non intuitively, but thats how things go. Bottom line is from these 400 - 450 levels $AAPL is a double in 3 to 4 yrs. And that aint bad at all.
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I am sure most of the new Windows 8 tablets will have more than two hour battery life.

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Although available on tablets, none of the previous Windows versions were really made or optimized for these.

OS X has been available on Macs for ten years plus. No one wanted it.
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AAPL $250-300 by end of 2013...you got it here first!
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I am sure most of the new Windows 8 tablets will have more than two hour battery life.
I doubt it. They are advertising them as 4-5 hours, so in real world use one can usually half that.


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Although available on tablets, none of the previous Windows versions were really made or optimized for these.
OK, let's think about this for a second. Metro has put in some nice big tiles you can hit with your fist. Good. But after you have actually launched your windows pro app, it's still windows on a tablet. That no one wanted. Until Apple showed the world how tablet computing is meant to be.

The problem is windows8 is trying to be both a tablet AND a desktop OS in one. And that is its failing. iOS and OSX are similar, but different. That is why it works.

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OS X has been available on Macs for ten years plus. No one wanted it.
And hardly anyone is using it, hence the very low market share. Not sure of the point you are trying to make?
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:54 AM   #47
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The problem is windows8 is trying to be both a tablet AND a desktop OS in one. And that is its failing. iOS and OSX are similar, but different. That is why it works.
I don't see it as a problem. It is not trying to be both. It is both.

Currently 40K Metro apps (I think I read somewhere it is 40K at the moment) for tablet usage.

Attach keyboard (Surface Pro, Asus VivoTab, Samsung ATIV Smart PC, HP Envy x2, Acer Iconia W510) or dock it (HP ElitePad 900, Dell XPS 10, Acer Iconia W7, Lenovo IdeaTab Lynx K3011, Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 3679) or buy a hybrid (MSI Slider S20, ASUS Taichi, Dell XPS 12, Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga) and then add a mouse and you have your desktop experience.

Attach a keyboard and a mouse to your ipad and run your OS X desktop programs... oh wait.. you can't.

While tablets like Surface Pro and Acer Iconia W7 Core i5 tablets may not have the best battery life (yet to see), the Atom based oned should do pretty well. Fx Asus VivoTab is announced 10.5h and 19h with the keyboard dock.

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Old 01-25-2013, 11:09 AM   #48
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a two hour battery life!
God i love the battery life of my Asus Transformer. 18 hours baby!!
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:03 PM   #49
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I don't see it as a problem. It is not trying to be both. It is both.
And that *is* the problem. The fact you don't see it as one is cool and dandy. More than entitled to your opinion.
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:06 PM   #50
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From what I have read, there seems to be a lot of confusion within the company. So perhaps this has something to do with it.
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